It's time to revive the Un- American house committee. The threat of socialism is too great now

[Twilight Hue]

I don't know..... but I know another "red scare" is the last thing this country needs. McCarthy ruined the lives of a lot of innocent people. People never learn.

Socialism is the precursor to communism.

 

[sooda]

Socialism is the precursor to communism.

That's the mantra... which like many knee jerk jingles isn't true.

 

[Twilight Hue]

That's the mantra... which like many knee jerk jingles isn't true.

It's actually history.

 

[sooda]

It's actually history.

Nope. Even the Nazis weren't socialist..nor were the fascists.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Nope. Even the Nazis weren't socialist..nor were the fascists.

Yep . Socialism is the precursor to communism.

 

[sooda]

A reiteration of my signature for those in this thread desperately need to hear it:

"To place Russian communism and Nazi-fascism on the same moral level, in the measure that both are totalitarian, is superficial at best; fascism at worst. Anyone who insists on this comparison could very well be considered a democrat, but deep in their heart a fascist is already there, and naturally they will only fight fascism in a superficial and hypocritical way, while they save all their hatred for communism." -Thomas Mann

Nazism was just another form of Fascism.

Most scholars think Nazism was a form of far- right politics. Nazism is a form of fascism and uses biological racism and antisemitism.

"National Socialism" (Nazism) is a form of fascism, an ideology implacably opposed to socialism despite its name.

The first thing Hitler did was kill or incarcerate socialists and communists at Dachau.

 

[sooda]

Difference between Fascism and Nazism - World History Online

Fascism is considered as the more aggressive form of nationalism. Even so, it is not considered as brutal or savage as Nazism. While the militaristic laws of Fascism that were enforced ended a lot of liberties for most people, they rarely used brute force to get what they wanted. Literally, Fascism means 'a bundle' in Italian.

(snip)

Nazism is a form of fascism and showed that ideology's disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system, but also incorporated fervent antisemitism, anti-communism, scientific racism, and eugenics into its creed. Its extreme nationalism.

According to the Mises Institute, the Third Reich operated ...
https://www.quora.com/According-to-the-Mises-Institute-the-Third-Reich-operated-a...
But what Mises (and all later, serious scholarship) of fascism had to concede was that no fascist state ever behaved like a socialist state - even a failed one. There was no redistribution of wealth, no workers’ control over the means of production, and no abolition of the capitalist class.

 

[fantome profane]

Socialism is the precursor to communism.

Yep . Socialism is the precursor to communism.

 

[sooda]

Socialism is the precursor to communism.

Socialist Republic of Vietnam (official name)

 

[Twilight Hue]

Socialist Republic of Vietnam (official name)

So was the USSR. Union of Soviet Socialists Republic.

So was China. The People's Republic of China.

What's your point?

 

[sooda]

So was the USSR. Union of Soviet Socialists Republic.

So was China. The People's Republic of China.

What's your point?

How many young men did we lose in the Vietnam war?

 

[Twilight Hue]

If by socialism you mean the welfare state, then most leaders of the US post depression are communist and so are most Scandinavian countries.

Hint : you're politically illiterate and have no idea what you're talking about

No just learned enough to know when somebody is putting out manipulative bull**** as to what socialism is, and what it actually entails in the real world.

Nice try. Doesn't work with me or anybody else who can see through the Socialist facade.

Lipstick on a pig.

 

[sooda]

No just learned enough to know when somebody is putting out manipulative bull**** as to what socialism is, and what it actually entails in the real world.

Nice try. Doesn't work with me or anybody else who can see through the Socialist facade.

Lipstick on a pig.

There's your boogie man.. NOW, you can react.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Nazism was just another form of Fascism.

Most scholars think Nazism was a form of far- right politics. Nazism is a form of fascism and uses biological racism and antisemitism.

"National Socialism" (Nazism) is a form of fascism, an ideology implacably opposed to socialism despite its name.

The first thing Hitler did was kill or incarcerate socialists and communists at Dachau.

Do you know of any scholarly articles on the matter perchance? Or was it just some 'scholar' out there in etherland?

 

[Shad]

Do you think pleading the fifth is an admission of guilt?

No

There was no evidence to accuse Paul Robeson of being a communist, unless sympathizing with communist countries or leaders in any capacity makes one a dangerous communist. Many years after HUAC had been ended, Robeson still rejected the communist designation, unlike many figures like Dubois who came out of the Communist closet.

You clearly never read or looked at what he said outside the one video. Your problem not mine

Thinking any black civil rights leader should face political repression for supposed communist ties places one in the fascist camp.

Wrong as other such leaders didn't get close to saying close to Robeson's views.

Should Albert Einstien and Dr Suess have been trialed too?
How about Malcolm X and Dr King? Should they have been brought before HUAC?
How about all those who protested the Vietnam and Korean wars?

None of them support communism or were outed as one after their deaths.

This is nothing more than shameless demand for suppression of opposition. Funny that it's the right-wing which are supposedly so concerned about free speech are the ones sympathizing with this commitee.

Babble based on your ignorance of the man. Yawn. Try again son.

 

[Shad]

I read his book, "Here I Stand".
He wasn't a Communist, he was a hugely talented black man. Born and raised in Jim Crow USA, he recognized the huge advantage for people who weren't under the thumb of US capitalist racists.

Then HUAC proved him correct.
Proved, beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Tom

Read the biographies and his praise of communism. HUAC proved nothing. Sorry I do not buy his bull when looking at what he said about the USSR, Stalin, Hungary, China and WW2. He also lived in the USSR for years. Yawn.