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Jehovahs witnesses

Im an Atheist

Biologist
O.K, i respect all religions, i have nothing against them....

But what i don't like is when religious people, (I.E. Jehovahs witnesses), come knocking your door to teach and preech to you about their religion and possible try and convert you.

Should they honestly be allowed to do this?


Whats your views on this?

IAA
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Why are you only targetting JWs? Many religions and many other groups/organizations go door-to-door.

As "should they honestly be allowed to do this?" - the answer is YES. Do we get to supress speech just because we don't like it? No.
 

Im an Atheist

Biologist
Why are you only targetting JWs? Many religions and many other groups/organizations go door-to-door.

As "should they honestly be allowed to do this?" - the answer is YES. Do we get to supress speech just because we don't like it? No.

JW were an example, hence the I.E., and this is because they are knocking my door nearly every month asking if i have heard or want to become one... i think we can make our own minds up, we don't need people going from door to door trying to convince people.

IAA
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
JW were an example, hence the I.E., and this is because they are knocking my door nearly every month asking if i have heard or want to become one... i think we can make our own minds up, we don't need people going from door to door trying to convince people.

IAA

So you're singling them out because of personal experience. Got it. I know you said "i.e.," but that's not in your thread title, is it?

As for "I think we can make our own minds up, we don't need people going from door to door trying to convince people," what do you do for those who don't know their options and so don't have the information necessary to make up their own minds? The reason religions go door-to-door is because it has some effectiveness. There are thousands and thousands of people who convert to a religion because door-to-door missionaries visited them. I understand it's not your cup of tea, but what do you say to those who would not have converted but for their experience with door-to-door missionaries?

As for your current experience, can't you politely, yet firmly, tell them you're not interested and do not want them to come back? If that doesn't work, just tell them you're Mormon. JW's don't usually continue visiting Mormons. The two are like vampires and werewolves that way.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
Yes, they should be allowed.

If they come knocking, it is our responsibility to respectfully deny their offer.
 

HoldemDB9

Active Member
Ill admit that they are annoying as hell and I wish they did not do it, but still, I think they should be allowed to, just as advertisers are allowed.

That's all they are really, advertisers. As soon as I hear they are JW I just politely say "no thanks", and if they try to continue the conversation then I will not so politely just shut the door in their face.
 

Tristesse

Well-Known Member
Wow! No one has ever heard that one before!

I hope you realize making such comments says a lot more about you than it does about Mormons.

I'm a aware. But actually, as I was typing, thats what I wrote, purely by accident, so I went with it. I got a chuckle out of it.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
just tell them you're Mormon. JW's don't usually continue visiting Mormons. The two are like vampires and werewolves that way.
lol, that is good trick. I will have to try it. Does it work both ways?


(I know the JW’s don’t like blood, so I guess that would make you guys the vampires :p)
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
fantôme profane;1507219 said:
lol, that is good trick. I will have to try it. Does it work both ways?


(I know the JW’s don’t like blood, so I guess that would make you guys the vampires :p)

Yes! I wanted to be on the vampires' side!

Does it go both ways? I think so. There are exceptions, but those only happen when the missionary just wants to prove someone wrong. If they are respectful, as they should be, then they'll move on without coming back.
 

gnomon

Well-Known Member
O.K, i respect all religions, i have nothing against them....

But what i don't like is when religious people, (I.E. Jehovahs witnesses), come knocking your door to teach and preech to you about their religion and possible try and convert you.

Should they honestly be allowed to do this?


Whats your views on this?

IAA

Shut the door. Simple as that.

Unless you are like me and want to invite them in to discuss their notions of the blood of Christ and how this has damaged children under such a belief even resulting in their death.

Then they will leave.
 

GiantHouseKey

Well-Known Member
O.K, i respect all religions, i have nothing against them....

But what i don't like is when religious people, (I.E. Jehovahs witnesses), come knocking your door to teach and preech to you about their religion and possible try and convert you.

Should they honestly be allowed to do this?

Whats your views on this?

IAA

Well, personally not a lot of JWs have come to our door...Maybe it's because I live on a crappy council estate...

In a way i'd quite like a couple of JWs to come see me. Although my mother is less tolerent than me of JWs...And because I don't live on my own it's not as easy as just letting them in.

But on the side of IAA, I don't think the right to freedom of speech applies when you get people coming to your door at all hours of the day especially on a day off, telling you how you need to change or burn in hell for eternity.

But should they be allowed? Yes.

Oh, by the way, you mean E.G, not I.E. ;)

GhK.
 

Seven

six plus one
JW's have a 'do not call' list. Next time they come to your door just say "what a coincidence! I used to be a special pioneer before I was dis fellowshipped." You'll be on the list in no time:D
 

Luminous

non-existential luminary
O.K, i respect all religions, i have nothing against them....

But what i don't like is when religious people, (I.E. Jehovahs witnesses), come knocking your door to teach and preech to you about their religion and possible try and convert you.

Should they honestly be allowed to do this?


Whats your views on this?

IAA

Put up a fence. its against the law to even touch someone elses fecce down here, you could be considered a treat and shot; ihear.
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
Put up a "no soliciting" sign. At that point their right to "sell" you their religion ends where your property begins. Personally, I think the right to your free speech ends where my right to my privacy begins, and that's on my property. But either way just use a "no soliciting" sign. If someone still insists on ringing your doorbell and preach to you, point out that the sign does indeed apply to them as they are, essentially, selling Christ, and not to come back. In all actuallity, if you tell a person to get off your property and not come back, and they do, you can charge them with trespassing. I'd have no problems with doing that myself if I kept having them show up on my door.
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
JW's have a 'do not call' list. Next time they come to your door just say "what a coincidence! I used to be a special pioneer before I was dis fellowshipped." You'll be on the list in no time:D

My first husband's family were JW. Oh the stories I could tell. He always told me that if a JW came to our door to just say I was disfellowshipped and they'd leave me alone. he said that was part of their conceit. They believe that everyone other than them are misled and can be saved, but if you once were JW and turned away from the church "you once knew the correct path to god and turned away, there is no saving you now". At least, that's how he put it.
 

EverChanging

Well-Known Member
In general, I guess they should be allowed just like other guys who advertise, but I really like the idea stated above:

Put up a "no soliciting" sign. At that point their right to "sell" you their religion ends where your property begins. Personally, I think the right to your free speech ends where my right to my privacy begins, and that's on my property. But either way just use a "no soliciting" sign. If someone still insists on ringing your doorbell and preach to you, point out that the sign does indeed apply to them as they are, essentially, selling Christ, and not to come back. In all actuallity, if you tell a person to get off your property and not come back, and they do, you can charge them with trespassing. I'd have no problems with doing that myself if I kept having them show up on my door.
 

Luminous

non-existential luminary
tell them ur mormon; JW and LDS are like vampires and werewolfs. lol
fantôme profane;1507219 said:
lol, that is good trick. I will have to try it. Does it work both ways?


(I know the JW’s don’t like blood, so I guess that would make you guys the vampires :p)

Put up a fence. its against the law to even touch someone elses fecce down here, you could be considered a treat and shot; ihear.


hahaha! Silver Fences; with really pointy tips. :D
 
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Our gate is locked so we don't get solicited but when I used to take the bus, probably 2-3 times per week while waiting at the bus stop I'd be reading my book and I'd get the same line: "Would you care for something more spiritual to read?" Yes, 2-3 times per week this would happen. I'd always say "no thanks" and go back to reading.

But my limited experience made me ask myself, why this bus stop, and why so frequently? It must either be a hot spot for converts, or -- forgive me, I don't even know who it was, JW or someone else -- they figure people at a bus stop are a captive audience, and also most likely (in our town) possibly down on their luck since they're taking the bus. This made me irrationally irritated lol, that just because we're at a bus stop we're easy pickins.

Again my apologies, I don't know what group it was, hope I didn't offend anyone.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
All you have to do if you don't want them is to put up a sign. Or you can do what most people do, just not answer when they come.
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
All you have to do if you don't want them is to put up a sign. Or you can do what most people do, just not answer when they come.

I answer my door pretty much whenever it's knocked on. As for missionaries, I tend to turn away JWs and Baptists (had them going door to door in Florida) and pretty much anyone else except for Mormons. I'll invite Mormons in if I have the time. Being a SAHM sometimes I like a visit and some adult conversation and I haven't personally met an LDS missionary that was anything but pleasant. That said, there are a few LDS on this site that I would probably turn away, but they are the extreme minority.
 
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