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Jesus bringing back life to the dead
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paarsurrey
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Jesus bringing back life to the dead
Jesus never did it. It is a wrong notion.
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Jesus never did it. It is a wrong notion.
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Unveiled Artist
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As a spirit, yes. As a person, no. Its not scientific. A lot christians say thats physical evidence of Jesus death and resurrection.
It isnt. Jesus was burried. They opened the stone three days later. He floats up to the sky to God in front of His Mother and disciples. He goes to heaven. An empty tomb could mean he already turned to ashes. If His body did float up, we would not know without interviewing the witnesses at the least. Yet, thats the belief.
Why bring science into a belief system that isnt based on science. Thats like knocking your palm against the chair to see if it is ripp like you would a water melon. Doesnt work that way.
In the Religion ABOUT Jesus, all actions are possible and impossible. Pick out or write whatever you want about him.
No, it's irrational. It's no more real than Odin waking the dead seeress to interpret Baldr's dreams. It's metaphor and allegory.
Besides, Lazarus wasn't dead.
Besides, Lazarus wasn't dead.
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sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
He was, as Miracle Max said, only mostly dead.
No, it's irrational. It's no more real than Odin waking the dead seeress to interpret Baldr's dreams. It's metaphor and allegory.
Besides, Lazarus wasn't dead.
Laz wasn't dead, Laz was in a coma. Then again in the Religion ABOUT Jesus, Jesus can take a chewed up digested pooped out human body from a Great White Shark and restore it like a Star Trek Transporter.
That actually was my thought.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Dead is dead. With exception of course to just looking dead.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Actually, He did. That is what is so amazing, about the whole situation.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
It did happen. It isn't myth. That's why the followers were so devout, they witnessed it.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
InChrist
Free4ever
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I don't recall reading in the scriptures anything about Jesus turning a stone into a bird, but He did say...“I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live." John 11;25
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Infancy Gospel of Thomas
Chapter 2: Jesus and the clay birds
1 When the boy Jesus was five years old, he was playing in a narrow part of a rushing stream. 2 He was gathering the flowing waters into ponds, and immediately they were made clean, and he ordered these things with a single word. 3 And after he made clay, he molded twelve sparrows from it. And it was the Sabbath when he did these things. But there were also many other children playing with him.
4 Then, a certain Jew saw what Jesus was doing while playing on the Sabbath. Immediately, he departed and reported to Jesus' father, Joseph, "Look, your child is in the stream and he took clay and formed twelve birds and profaned the Sabbath?"
5 And Joseph went to the area and when he saw him, he shouted, "Why are you doing these things that are not permitted on the Sabbath?"
6 Jesus, however, clapped his hands and shouted to the sparrows, "Depart, fly, and remember me now that you are alive." And the sparrows departed shrieking.
7 When the Jews saw this, they were amazed. After they had gone away, they described to their leaders what they had seen Jesus do.
Reference: Infancy Gospel of Thomas
I'm not convinced Jesus was ever meant to be taken as a literal, living man, let alone that he had supernatural powers.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
What convinces you of that?
I don't think I can be convinced. Perhaps if I had a vision of Jesus himself. Perhaps.
As things stand now, the evidence for Jesus' existence seems quite flimsy to me. A man who literally no one saw growing, who barely anyone of the time acknowledged seeing, speaking mainly in riddles... it really looks more like a fictional character than a literal person to me.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
No, I meant what convinces you that Jesus was never meant to be taken as a literal, living man? I realize that you're not convinced (which is fine -- I'm not arguing your own skepticism here), but what convinces you that Paul and the other NT writers never meant for Jesus to be taken as a literal, living man?