Jesus Christ: the greatest story ever told?

[Redemptionsong]

No .. these decisions about what somebody should believe, was by no means anywhere near unanimous.

We start off with the shema, which Jesus fully endorsed, but "the church" evolved
into what it is today by men's decree.
That's OK.
..but God will decide between us all in the end. We should be very careful not to mislead others, by stating men's opinions as absolute truth, when we don't really know that.

I'm not saying that the decisions were unanimous. There have always been heresies in the Church. But the purpose of these councils was to determine the dogma, or central tenets of faith.

The only way in which you can have a Church that follows truth accurately, and as God intended, is to have a Church that lives righteously. To live righteously, one must follow Jesus Christ and be 'born again' of his Holy Spirit! No?

 

[muhammad_isa]

The only way in which you can have a Church that follows truth accurately, and as God intended, is to have a Church that lives righteously..

Yes..
..but that has little to do with political wrangling over dogma.
Righteousness has to do with avoiding sin.

..and how were so-called Trinitarians and Arians differing in that aspect?
Did they not both believe that Jesus is the Messiah? Yes.

 

[PearlSeeker]

Each gospel story can still be the truth even if one starts in one place and another starts somewhere else.

If Jesus existed before the world was created, he is the agent of creation, he came from heaven from Father with whom he is one..., he told all these things about himself,
THEN it's not just a minor detail to be left out from 3/4 of the other stories written earlier. It's a contradiction.

AND some of non-biblical stories are not less historical than the Bible. Why not believe them?

 

[rational experiences]

If men said G d is rock. O planet spinning cooling in space formed as rock mass. Womb law.

As we own bones like rock then man is all God.

Not dusts.

Dusts are total destruction. As humans disintegrated skeletons by dust blow away on the breeze said science. Having witnessed combustion. ...ashes and dusts.

Why man was all G d.

As God above cooling was on the face of water...our biology mainly water. On the face of the holy space womb the teaching.

What men learnt ...the sun metal in cold space or even the gas burning was indestructible. Not Hot enough to rid it above....the light supporting bio life.

The lesson.

Metal kept coming back. It's very dangerous said men of science as it's not gods. God is with womb not sun.

A sun mass is so hot and is the only body that consumes it as metal energy. Said our holy brother.

Terminator theme.

 

[Redemptionsong]

No .. these decisions about what somebody should believe, was by no means anywhere near unanimous.

We start off with the shema, which Jesus fully endorsed, but "the church" evolved
into what it is today by men's decree.
That's OK.
..but God will decide between us all in the end. We should be very careful not to mislead others, by stating men's opinions as absolute truth, when we don't really know that.

The Shema states that God is one. This is not in dispute.

The Christian belief is that the Spirit of the Father was in the man, Jesus. Moreover, the conception of the man, Jesus, was brought about by the overshadowing of the Holy Spirit. There is, therefore, a sense in which Jesus was the Son of God even before the Holy Spirit descended upon him at baptism.

When Jesus ascended on high, the Holy Spirit was poured out on the body of believers. The Spirit, from the Father, came to the Church via belief in the Son. God is present at every level. God is above (transcendent), amongst believers (as Christ is present), and within individual believers.

If God has not come down to earth, then you cannot know the face of God, and he remains unknown to you spiritually. What you end up with is 'religion'. This is a belief in a God that you do not personally encounter.

 

[Redemptionsong]

Yes..
..but that has little to do with political wrangling over dogma.
Righteousness has to do with avoiding sin.

..d how were so-called Trinitarians and Arians differing in that aspect?
Did they not both believe that Jesus is the Messiah? Yes.

But to receive the righteousness of God, which comes by grace, one must receive Christ by faith. How does one receive Christ by faith if one cannot accept that Christ is the salvation of God?

Only God can save a man from sin (and death)!

 

[muhammad_isa]

If God has not come down to earth, then you cannot know the face of God, and he remains unknown to you spiritually. What you end up with is 'religion'. This is a belief in a God that you do not personally encounter.

Yes, religion.
That is what we are discussing.

Jews have their "perfect man" .. Christians have their "perfect man", and Muslims have their "perfect man".
Are you beginning to get the idea?

 

[muhammad_isa]

But to receive the righteousness of God, which comes by grace, one must receive Christ by faith..

..and so-called Arians didn't?
You just aren't answering my questions.
"receive Christ by faith" is a concept that you have in your mind, meaning "only if you believe the same as I do can you receive Christ".

As I have already said, your beliefs come from a series of ecumenical councils.
Jesus didn't teach them .. it is purely church dogma, and God knows why they insisted on a particular formula 1700 years ago.

Only God can save a man from sin (and death)!

That is not in question.

 

[rational experiences]

Human men lie.

Before your whole biological body human type...yet a human is only living with you in the same moment is any animal.

As if you all died sacrificed father man adult human. Self idolator theist liar...as the human man. A woman human would live. Animals would live. Nature would exist.

As a man thinking as the man pretending when the man human never existed.

A planet whose history cosmic has nothing whatsoever to do with you. Formed. Not by you thinking about it.

A heavens surrounding the planet also not having anything at all to do with you. Formed.

A thinker as the human...a human. Is a human first. You then think...asking human only questions as a human.

You ask where did I come from. You then answer as the human what you Believe.

No other allowances accepted are involved in just a human thinking first.

A man a liar...innate liar. Then says I believe life began when the sun attacking earth. A sun gave its light to the clear atmosphere burning gas.

As it's only on one side of earth facing the sun. The other side earth heavens owning the same gases in heavens isn't burning.

So you ask him the logical advice.....
What size mass or substance was the sun?

Doesn't know.

What types of bodies were attacking earth via space?

Doesn't know.

What earth mass origin was changed converted?

Doesn't know

What or how much mass of anything changed?

Doesn't know.

Yet he says I believe it's where life started.

So you ask him was it when it was reacting?

No.

After it cooled.

So why do you say after it cooled? As it's where I live now. Says a human man. Exact advice where you live.

Okay so your answer a human man says you are a human man as your answer. Yet destroyer humans with machines don't want that answer?

That's correct... I instead contemplate that first I was some type in human form as a super state.

Isn't that just the same man in his same life thinking. Who abjectively put super states as his bio answer instead of just living as the bio human?

Yes. Man named self idolator man who sacrificed man's life by not accepting his life is bio microbe sperm ovary first. Human type.

As no human today was ever the first two human parents.

As in their life we began as human sperm ovary? By sex only.

Okay so baby humans born now by thousands of years of human sex only want to claim you know how and why the first ever humans never human sperm ovary owned human life?

Yes.

How?

As before a human who thinks isn't any human who thinks.

As it's human bio thoughts only you're using now.

No I want you to believe a cloud image man I said was Jesus the man. Cloud mass shows his heavenly image above was the first human man ever.

The image I see in the heavens above me was the first man. In cloud mass.

Okay...where did any one gas first emerge?

Out of the planets volcano mass into empty space. I Want irrationally a cloud to be then... yet as no heavenly body existed no cloud by type the cloud existed.

Not Jesus the man. History out of volcano in space. Reason man scientist gets his gas out of cold earth mass now. Gases are a gas with a lot of space included as it's not mass.

Now says thoughts..... don't clouds emerge reactively mainly float on water above. Then voiding vacuum make them disappear.

Yes.

Aren't you really just a dead human first parents life by two reborn as always just the human form?

Yes I tried to tell myself that advice. But my lying mind is stuck in thesis as a self idolator. The human man.

As history void vacuum space law just sucks upon all bodies constantly? In space.

Yes.

So you didn't begin life as a cloud man... only Said by a human life who talks about his reasons why his man's biology born by human sex got hurt.

Instead of saying correctly I falsely believe one human being man born a baby was a special man baby?

As the story says Jesus a man was first born a baby man. Which you just happen to ignore when you try to false preach science of human theisms?

Yes that's right I keep changing topic and subject.

So human men as adults claimed a baby was first put into a human woman's womb as a special man...said by theists as just human men too whose practice by human choice was to be a special man?

Yes.

Okay theist baby man adult didn't you lose sanity. A Long time ago star fall gas burnt your human mind. Yet cloud cooling saved your baby man's adult life not burning you to death?

Yes.

Later in human sex baby life born...you healed by atmospheric cooling evolution causes above also?

Yes.

Is that why you think you're a Super heavens cloud man spirit today?

Yes.

Ignored as the bible is a testimony of lots of facts topics and themes...but ended stated why no man is God. All the theses proved was that a man adult became self possessed as a thinker. Consciousness.

Themed CH that arose gases consciousness possessed. As CH gases like methane kill off biology?

Yes. It was proof what my mind has theoried as consciousness. And as I believed in it I anti attacked humans bio cell life as machine man owner.

The testimony was my man's scientists confession of my own fake beliefs. Theisms.

As bio life by cell type is only mainly water. And bio life lives in oxygenated fresh water only.

Why I taught scientific theism is satanic only owning burning biology to death. By machines.

Only after his human mind was atmospheric changed.

That theist tried to pretend that clouds came to the ground and it's the form of spirit everything came from.

Then another just a human compares our life to carbon only. Claiming it's where life began. Yet it's a man with machine thesis about where life ends.

By his machine.

As he pretended burning star mass held in a vacuum void was like his owned applied human transmitted computer program only. Man said as a human man who built machines and controls machines as a designer.

 

[paarsurrey]

Jesus Christ: the greatest story ever told?

Did (Jesus) Yeshua- the Israelite Messiah in an unambiguous, unequivocal and straightforward manner claim that his story is the " the greatest story ever told " and gave any proofs in this connection, or it is one's own phony claim or wishful thinking, please? Right?
Kindly feel free to quote from Yeshua in this regards, please, right?

Regards

 

[rational experiences]

A man is. Human equal mutual one being..the man as one species the human man.

Species one however owns two mutual humans first.

Says the baby human thinking looking back remembering. Knowing I'm a human.

Not the parent you know you aren't special they were. The first.

You the baby adult man proved you expressed some very irrational beliefs.

Telling lies and being wrong Jesus a thief criminal said Jesus the realised holy human life adult told his self contradictory story.

Of a changed machine constant attack..repeated repetere...Peter.

He concluded I tell the truth first with father then I lied in my own choice I learnt I'm a self contradiction.

All men natural in law human and man argue in their owned conscious heads. Consciousness inherited psyche.

As they verbalise their argument outwardly to brothers they blamed them and not each man mutual equal. In his owned head mind.

Is the teaching.

Scientist said earth has many layers space womb Infinity 1 one with 1000000000000000000layering.

Law space is one law space.

You quote number 1 it's not the number 1 as held mass energy.

You use numbers non actual also. Inference. As thesis is pretend pretence first.

So the same space condition voiding kept cooling until mass became mass.

Theist ignored its the same law said 1 mass plus 0000000000000.

Taught man said 1 mass is with 0 the same law so taught God is 1 0 only.

So men wouldn't remove earths face until only a body of carbon existed. Seeing mass bodies is the type inferred by any man scientist as position or from the body massfirst.

Such as a sun was the human theist thought upon body mass.

Ignores the truth as he begins man's science only with earths body mass.

Therefore when evil men were king's and lords as life's takeover as titles.

And knew it was their rich man human science history ....how are you ever correct?

As you weren't our first man holy father ever.

Is the actual teaching...try and do it again you'll learn like I had that man is wrong.

And you have...you just won't agree.

As when a man begins his legal standing as a hypocrite he was still rich and still the hypocrite.

Why you don't learn.

 

[Vinidra]

When I was Christian I would have responded with an unqualified "yes". As a Hindu, my response is "it's not even close".

Personally, I think the stories of Rama and Krishna are greater, and I'm not even a Vaishnavite!

 

[rational experiences]

When just humans introduced caste system and men caste dust into nuclear reactions. By man's control technology.

Already conscious brain minds were changed of men. To make the choice. Yet they were safe biology had an experience.... it was just a human experience.

You didn't need to be a scientific human theist is your mans human story.

Human family abused because of how you think....behaved against family who weren't brain changed. Loved mutual equal mutually in family only hierarchy. Our innocent behaviour. You no longer agreed as men in group cult.

Natural hierarchy the wise old human. Your greater parents.

Young not wise bully men who threatened enslaved tortured murdered. Is rich man's I'm a God history.

To gain fake hierarchial human man civilisation status lords and kings. Like a God of power.

It's only when you got life attacked sacrificed did you hypocrites claim I was innocent in life of man... the story.

So today men by lizard government science machine alien theists vs innocent humanity is about any national countries theories of the past used for temple sciences.

That nuclear sun star blasted most of life to death nation by nation where the UFO ark fell...or vimyana. Took turns as it moved cooling then fell again.

Cooled as ground water mass in huge sheets lifted off ground. Clouds formed behind the attack couldn't catch up to burning fallout.

As agreed rich cultures owned the technologies. No different from life today. Same behaviours of human and acceptance of behaviours.

Man's idea now....who would toil for low jobs. Pay them a higher wages. To bring them to your standard. You rich humans should have less. The answer. Worst jobs should be highest paid.

Therefore when lizards cold blood live today in natural laws with warm blood biology in our bio type atmosphere the law of life is with the lizard.

Men however said and confessed they want ice the saviour of our blood type our bio cell to be given to his machine only reactions as heavens coldest gas.

Confessed.

Coldest gas was given back to heavens by ice only. As dinosaur giant life lizard types in rule lived in a hot humid gas heavens. Thick skinned cold blood with huge bones.

The past heavens type of planet earth owned no saviour terms. Ice body.

So he puts coldest gas in his machine reacts. Ice melts body gone. Our saviour of coldest gas.

Proven he tried to give us aliens UFO ark fall dinosaurs death history.

As in the past human theories first come by thesis to the state all dinosaur giant life died. You can't pretend they were living before death.

Theists as Satanists however do.

Is our warning men who think they are gods. Agree with God man teaching.

When a thesis says carbon the meaning carbon is its beginning and end by a thought. No machine exists no life exists.

Is the new god men theists today.

Life's theories destroyer.

So our first ever human parents are deceased.

In the past is dead humans.

The theist today ignore he lives by human present baby adult and sex.

In theories before humans are all deceased.

We had not come back from our dead human parents. Into our adult life. We were already living...by sex.

Theists however pretended we did. Is the human today you should all be very concerned about.

When you say humans and science need a human agreement about human life...versus machine.

The warning psychics the psyche the storyteller is regaining warnings via a lot of human theists. Who tried to put the warning of humanity back in its place.

Seeing science already changed in dusts once again by modern technology CH rist's mass. And we lost humans Christ aware consciousness.

 

[YoursTrue]

The Shema states that God is one. This is not in dispute.

The Christian belief is that the Spirit of the Father was in the man, Jesus. Moreover, the conception of the man, Jesus, was brought about by the overshadowing of the Holy Spirit. There is, therefore, a sense in which Jesus was the Son of God even before the Holy Spirit descended upon him at baptism.

When Jesus ascended on high, the Holy Spirit was poured out on the body of believers. The Spirit, from the Father, came to the Church via belief in the Son. God is present at every level. God is above (transcendent), amongst believers (as Christ is present), and within individual believers.

If God has not come down to earth, then you cannot know the face of God, and he remains unknown to you spiritually. What you end up with is 'religion'. This is a belief in a God that you do not personally encounter.

When Jesus said, "I and the Father are one," he didn't mean that the Father was in him literally. He meant that he, Jesus, was in harmony with his Father. He prayed TO the Father in heaven, not a person inside of him. Also please notice John 2:16 which says: "and said to the pigeon-sellers “Get these away from here; do not make my Father’s house a market.” So here Jesus referred to HIS Father's house. His Father was clearly in heaven while Jesus was on the earth.

 

[rational experiences]

When a man said as all humans are men first. My father and I are one.

It's because lying self Idolating baby men adults were theists of human science. Thinker of phi was baby man adult thinker.

Why he said I was Jesus when no man is God...gas spirits are first body. No human is a gas body teaching. His minds confession only. I caused its fall.

Heavens above is mass not phi...you lied.

As a father he has sex to reproduce create his one species one human.

Theist theory non sex biological man by thesis was lying. Why life was heavenly sacrificed was by non sexual adult men. Lying as human theists.

The actual teaching.

As only a father human continued life and owned his life man's historic. By human sex.

Ignored by men theists who don't use human sex as a baby man in theory. Reason why they live.

Warning.

Terms.

Above us is only sky.

We all live inside earths heavens as humans equally ignored.

Why John Lennon was murdered trying to simplify human thoughts processes. As proof you felt threatened by human truth.

 

[Redemptionsong]

When Jesus said, "I and the Father are one," he didn't mean that the Father was in him literally. He meant that he, Jesus, was in harmony with his Father. He prayed TO the Father in heaven, not a person inside of him. Also please notice John 2:16 which says: "and said to the pigeon-sellers “Get these away from here; do not make my Father’s house a market.” So here Jesus referred to HIS Father's house. His Father was clearly in heaven while Jesus was on the earth.

If the Spirit of the Father was not resting on Jesus, then there is no Saviour come to earth!

The temple of God is not made with hands, for the cornerstone is Christ himself.

 

[paarsurrey]

Jesus Christ: the greatest story ever told?

Did (Jesus) Yeshua- the Israelite Messiah in an unambiguous, unequivocal and straightforward manner claim that his story is the " the greatest story ever told " and gave any proofs in this connection, or it is one's own phony claim or wishful thinking, please? Right?
Kindly feel free to quote from Yeshua in this regards, please, right?
Regards

It is the tenth day when I wrote the above post, no Hellenist-Pauline Christian could quote from (Jesus) Yeshua- the Israelite Messiah, his claim that his story was the greatest story ever told, did I miss something in this connection, please? Right?

Regards