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dis·ci·ple
/dəˈsīp(ə)l/
noun
noun: disciple; plural noun: disciples
a personal follower of Jesus during his life, especially one of the twelve Apostles
Apostles vs. Disciples: Clearing the Confusion
" What is the basic definition of an apostle versus a disciple?
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The word "disciple" comes from the Latin word "discipulus," meaning "learner" or "pupil." In the context of the Bible, a disciple refers to a follower of Jesus who voluntarily chooses to learn from him and adhere to his teachings. This includes listening and observing, imitating his way of life, and applying his teachings to their own lives.
On the other hand, the term "apostle" originates from the Greek word "apostolos," which means "one who is sent out" or "messenger." In the Bible, an apostle specifically refers to someone chosen by Jesus to spread the good news of the gospel and establish the early Christian church. Apostles are given the authority to perform miracles and to lead and shepherd the newly formed Christian community.
Jesus said it was going to happen though. How is that a failure on him? As for the betrayal, it had to happen. In the Gospel of Judas we are given a story where Jesus approaches Judas and tells him that he's the only one who can be trusted to actually go through with it. But, again this wasn't a failure as even if that story isn't true it means Jesus deliberately chose Judas to fulfill that role because, again, it was something that had to happen.If one of your friends denies you and another betrays you, you don't that as a failure of your friendship?
He was regarded as a spiritual teacher and healer, and drew the ire of Rome enough to get himself executed. Whoever the story is based on wasn't really being treated like everybody else.Yes he was treated normally by the people of Israel. Not as the messenger he claimed to be.
Yup. And still in the beginning it was primarily a Jewish sect.Sorry, you're right. I should have said he came for the "people of Israel" most of whom rejected him.
Actually there is a tradition of Peter being the first Pope, and the "rock" upon which the Church was built by Jesus' grace. (Matt. 16:18)Yes, were is this church of Peter. Were are the teachings of Peter? Peter who Paul call out as a hypocrite. Peter who withdrew from Paul and the gentiles and kept to the Jews. Were now are the Jewish followers of Peter? Peter, who Jesus claimed would be the rock of his church. Where are they now? Where is this church of Peter? Where are the teachings of Peter. Peter was just another failure of Jesus. Peter turned out to be not so good at his job either.
What the Early Church Believed: Peter as Pope
The earliest Christians believed Jesus made Saint Peter the first pope. Read what they had to say about this ancient teaching.
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