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Jesus, Gold

Marco19

Researcher
Hello dear friends,

in Mat 2:11
11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.

I wonder what happened to that treasure? when, where, how Jesus and his family spent that gold?

Thanks in advance :)
 

Marco19

Researcher
Could be the case that they used a portion to cover traveling expenses,
but here the verse mention a treasure, and group of people offering a treasure and worshiping the new born.

an interesting fact, i still can't understand why those starngers left after finding their lord? if i find my lord, and start to worship him, then why to leave? what would be the purpose of this? i guess the bible doesn't cover this.
anyhow, thats another point besides to the treasure which disappeared as it wasn't existed.
 

Harrytic

Member
It's a darn good question and one I never thought about. One would have thought that they would have had a pretty good life style there for a while, unless Joseph blew it all. Maybe he pumped it all into his carpentery buisness? Or maybe he gave it to charity?
 

Shiranui117

Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
Premium Member
an interesting fact, i still can't understand why those starngers left after finding their lord? if i find my lord, and start to worship him, then why to leave? what would be the purpose of this? i guess the bible doesn't cover this.
As Persians in the Roman Empire, they'd get a lot of flak, especially on the frontier, most likely. They came to see if a sign was true. Perhaps they went back to Persia to report their findings and spread the news of the promised Savior there?
 

Marco19

Researcher
As Persians in the Roman Empire, they'd get a lot of flak, especially on the frontier, most likely. They came to see if a sign was true. Perhaps they went back to Persia to report their findings and spread the news of the promised Savior there?

May be, but again how comes?
If those Persians had already spread the news in Persia, then it should be some historical evidences.

As far as i remember there is a mention of Persian or some Persians converted in the book of Acts, but that occured after crucifixion.

In all cases no mention of any role of those Persians, as it hasn't happened!
 

Shiranui117

Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
Premium Member
May be, but again how comes?
If those Persians had already spread the news in Persia, then it should be some historical evidences.

As far as i remember there is a mention of Persian or some Persians converted in the book of Acts, but that occured after crucifixion.

In all cases no mention of any role of those Persians, as it hasn't happened!
Christian Scriptures record nothing about the Biblical Magi after reporting their going back to their own country. Two separate traditions have surfaced claiming that they were so moved by their encounter with Jesus that they either became Christians on their own or were quick to convert fully upon later encountering an Apostle of Jesus. The traditions claim that they were so strong in their beliefs that they willingly embraced martyrdom.
Chronicon of Dexter

One tradition gained popularity in Spain during the 17th century, it was found in a work called the Chronicon of Dexter. The work was ascribed to Flavius Lucius Dexter the bishop of Barcelona, under Theodosius the Great. The tradition appears in the form of a simple martyrology reading "In Arabia Felix, in the city of Sessania of the Adrumeti, the martyrdom of the holy kings, the three Magi, Gaspar, Balthassar, and Melchior who adored Christ."[36] First appearing in 1610, the Chronicon of Dexter was immensely popular along with the traditions it contained throughout the 17th century - later this was all brought into question when historians and the Catholic hierarchy in Rome declared the work a pious forgery.[37]
Relics at Cologne

A competing tradition asserts that the Biblical Magi "were martyred for the faith, and that their bodies were first venerated at Constantinople; thence they were transferred to Milan. When Barbarossa overthrew Milan, these bodies were taken to the great Dome of Cologne, and there they are venerated today.

Source

Let's face it; the Magi didn't stick around long to learn about Jesus. They had no clue of what He would do; they simply trusted that He was the promised Lord and Savior. Because of that, they had nothing to preach to the rest of the Persians; for all they knew, the prophecy could have turned out false. When the Apostle Thomas made his way over to Persia decades later and told the Magi all of what that little boy had grown up to be, it was then that the Magi had knowledge of Whom they had put their faith in. Once they knew what to say to their people, they preached it like there was no tomorrow.
 

Philda Tressie

God Supremist
It's a darn good question and one I never thought about. One would have thought that they would have had a pretty good life style there for a while, unless Joseph blew it all. Maybe he pumped it all into his carpentery buisness? Or maybe he gave it to charity?

I LOVE this thought!
 

Marco19

Researcher
Hello Shiranui,

i agree with you, except the following:
When the Apostle Thomas made his way over to Persia decades later and told the Magi all of what that little boy had grown up to be, it was then that the Magi had knowledge of Whom they had put their faith in. Once they knew what to say to their people, they preached it like there was no tomorrow.

How you get to this conclusion? could you provide some references please?
 

Shiranui117

Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
Premium Member
Thomas meeting the magis
Thomas and Bartholomew were known to have gone to India and Persia in their evangelization journeys, and this is a widely-attested fact (even today, the Oriental Orthodox in India claim St. Thomas to be their Apostle, as well as the Assyrian Church of the East based in Persia.

As far as Thomas baptizing the Magi, it's an Orthodox/Catholic legend that newadvent.org casts doubt on (look at the last paragraph)
 
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