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Jesus, here are my questions to you after you resurrect

ankarali

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Jesus (peave upon be him) return will not be as you imagined. It will be very difficult to understand heis the real Jesus Christ because the religion is an examination here a comment made by Bediuzzaman about Jesus Christ

''[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]A tyrannical current born of Naturalist and Materialist philosophy will gradually become strong and spread at the end of time by means of materialist philosophy, reaching such a degree that it denies God. A savage who does not recognize the king or accept that the officers and soldiers in the army are his soldiers ascribes a sort of kingship and rulership to everyone and to all the soldiers. In just the same way, the members of that current, who deny God, each ascribes dominicality to his soul like a little Nimrod. And the greatest of them, the Anti-Christ, who will come to lead them, will manifest awesome wonders - a sort of spiritualism and hypnosis; he will go even further, and imagining his tyrannical, superficial rule to be a sort of dominicality, he will proclaim his godhead. It is clear just what ….... b........ it is for impotent man, who may be defeated by a fly and cannot create even a fly’s wing, to claim godhead.[/FONT]
At that point when the current appears to be very strong, the religion of true Christianity, which comprises the collective personality of Jesus (Upon whom be peace), will emerge. That is, it will descend from the skies of Divine Mercy. Present Christianity will be purified in the face of that reality; it will cast off superstition and distortion, and unite with the truths of Islam. Christianity will in effect be transformed into a sort of Islam. Following the Qur’an, the collective personality of Christianity will be in the rank of follower, and Islam, In that of leader. True religion will become a mighty force as a result of its joining it. Although defeated before the atheistic current while separate, Christianity and Islam will have the capability to defeat and rout it as a result of their union. Then the person of Jesus (Upon whom be peace), who is present with his human body in the world of the heavens, will come to lead the current of true religion, as, relying on the promise of One Powerful Over All Things, the Bringer of Sure News has said. Since he has told of it, it is true, and since the One Powerful Over All Things has promised it, He will certainly bring it about.
Indeed, it is not far from the wisdom of an All-Wise One of Glory Who all the time sends the angels to the earth from the heavens, sometimes sends them in human form (like Gabriel appearing in the form of Dihya), and sends spirit beings from the Spirit World making them appear in human form, and even sends the spirits of most of the dead saints to the world with similitudes of their bodies, it would not be far from His Wisdom - even if he was not alive and present with his body in the skies of the world, and had truly died and departed for the furthest corner of the Hereafter - to clothe Jesus (Upon whom be peace) in his body and send him to the world, so to bring the religion of Jesus to a good conclusion; for such a momentous result. Indeed He promised it because His wisdom required it to be thus, and since He promised it, He will most certainly send him.
When Jesus (Upon whom be peace) comes, it is not necessary that everyone should know him to be the true Jesus. His elect and those close to him will recognize him through the light of belief. It will not be self-evident so that everyone will recognize him.''


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You know very well the cold war between Russia and USA one part symbolize ''the Atheism'' and the other part symbolize ''Christiannity'' and the efforts of Vatican against ''Communism'' Muslims and Christians worked together against this one and proved a sign of Jesus's return
 
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Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
1. Will you stay on this earth now or will you leave. Will you allow people to ask you questions, for example people from other religions who have a totally different God.

The scriptures say that at the time Christ returns, ALL will know it. That includes people from other religions....and they will turn to him and put faith in him Psalms 72:7 In his days the righteous one will sprout,... 8 And he will have subjects from sea to sea...to the ends of the earth

The kingdom that Jesus will rule is a heavenly kingdom... not earthly.
Matthew 4:17 From that time on Jesus commenced preaching and saying: “Repent, YOU people, for the kingdom of the heavens has drawn near.”

John 18:36 “My kingdom is no part of this world. If my kingdom were part of this world, my attendants would have fought that I should not be delivered up to the Jews. But, as it is, my kingdom is not from this source.”



2. There are a little more than 10,000 religions on this earth....are the other 9,999 all wrong?


All those religions have a common denominator, they all believe in 'one true God' who is above all others. But they have different ways of explaining who he is. The bible writers had their own distinct way of explaining who he is and christians take their view of God from those writers. To the hebrews, God was a real living God...he wasnt a mere statue, he spoke to them, guided them and they saw many wonders from him. So their view of God is based on the evidence they saw for themselves.


In the end, we each have to decide which explanation of God is true...that has to be a personal decision, but it should be based on knowledge and reason. Obviously all the religions cannot be right, there can only be one 'true God' and all the religions are in agreeance on that point.



3. There are thousands of different views within Christianity which contradicts each other on many views (for example...Mormons, Jehovah's witness and many more).
Which nomination of the thousands is actually correct.

Its a matter of deduction. The bible sets forth the prerequisites for christian worship... make a list of those pre requisites then look at the various denominations and see if they match up. There is one pre-requisite which will knock out the majority of the denominations. From there, your task is easy.



10. Do you have any thoughts or views what is the best for a society? Capitalism? Socialism? Communism?

Yes, Gods Kingdom is what will be the best thing for society. Mankind do not have the ability or authority to rule themselves...they need Gods help as we can see from the state of the world today. Mankind have slowly been destroying the planet with their consuming lifestyles...its time for change.
Matthew 6:9
“YOU must pray, then, this way:
“‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. 10 Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth



11. If Adam & Eve were of one particular human race..How can we have different ones (Asian, Caucasian, Native people, Africans etc.) if not thru evolution.

the genetics of Adam and Eve contained all the information necessary for their offspring to show the great variety we see today.So yes, that is 'evolution' if you want to call it that.
Acts 17:26 And he made out of one [man] every nation of men, to dwell upon the entire surface of the earth


12. The scientist say that there are about 200 Billion Galaxies out there and each galaxy has around 100 billion stars. Jesus, how close were the scientists in calculating this number. After all, you created it you should know the exact number.
Let me just say that the bible does not say Jesus is God Almighty. It says that Jehovah is God Almighty and Jesus is called the 'son' of God.
“He is counting the number of the stars; all of them he calls by their names.”—Psalm 147:4.




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Thousands of groups have predicted the end of the world on a specific date but the thing all these group have in common is that they have all been wrong. Where did they get this information from?[/quote]

Mark 13:32
Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Father. Keep looking, keep awake, for you do not know when the appointed time is.



 
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The scriptures say that at the time Christ returns, ALL will know it. That includes people from other religions....and they will turn to him and put faith in him Psalms 72:7 In his days the righteous one will sprout,... 8 And he will have subjects from sea to sea...to the ends of the earth
Here we go again with the "unique" thing. How many times do I have to tell you that you (Christianity) is not unique. The other 9,999 religions don't believe in Jesus and don't think he will come back. They don't believe in him. They think their prophecies will come true and their prophecies have 0% chance of happening which is the same percentage that your beliefs will come true.

This is the scenario that will happen:

10 years from now - You will say "The scriptures say that at the time Christ returns, ALL will know it. That includes people from other religions....and they will turn to him and put faith in him"
30 years from now - You will say "The scriptures say that at the time Christ returns, ALL will know it. That includes people from other religions....and they will turn to him and put faith in him"
100 years from now - You will be dead but your followers will say "The scriptures say that at the time Christ returns, ALL will know it. That includes people from other religions....and they will turn to him and put faith in him"
2000 years from now - Your followers will say - "The scriptures say that at the time Christ returns, ALL will know it. That includes people from other religions....and they will turn to him and put faith in him"
1 Billion years from now (if the world exists) - Your followers will say "The scriptures say that at the time Christ returns, ALL will know it. That includes people from other religions....and they will turn to him and put faith in him"

He will not return...period...So far I'm correct because I know he will not return and he hasn't so....... ;)

All those religions have a common denominator, they all believe in 'one true God
In the end, we each have to decide which explanation of God is true...that has to be a personal decision, but it should be based on knowledge and reason. Obviously all the religions cannot be right, there can only be one 'true God' and all the religions are in agreeance on that point.
You mentioned reason and knowledge. Your bible that you base your knowledge and reason on is 2,000 years old and is one of thousands on different views on it. Should I list all the things people believed in at that time.
You say that all religions can't be true but then you state that they all believe in "one true God" even though all the beliefs are different and they have a totally different view about God. If I make up a religion today with a lot of weird beliefs and make up a God figure for it, is that also a "one true god" even though the weird beliefs I come up with. Your statement is weird and contradictory. Then of course you think your view of God is the correct one and the other 9,999 are false.

The genetics of Adam and Eve contained all the information necessary for their offspring to show the great variety we see today.So yes, that is 'evolution' if you want to call it that.
So lets say that Adam & Eve where middle eastern because I think according to your scripture they were from that place on the earth. When they or their grand children later had kids did the kids come out as Asians, African, Native people or Caucasian even though the mother and father were not of that ethnicity. That is basically what you are saying. You gave me a good laugh when I read it...

“He is counting the number of the stars; all of them he calls by their names.”—Psalm 147:4.
If I ever meet Jesus I will question him about the exact number of galaxies and how exactly many stars there are in each. If he can't answer it maybe he can ask his father....Another question for him is if there are any life on the planets that surrounds the 20,000 Billion stars out there in the universe. He must know, he created it right......Once again there are 20,000 Billion stars out there (20,000,000,000,000 stars)

Mark 13:32Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Father. Keep looking, keep awake, for you do not know when the appointed time is.

My question was:

Thousands of groups have predicted the end of the world on a specific date but the thing all these group have in common is that they have all been wrong. Where did they get this information from?

The earth will go under in about 1,5 Billion years when the sun follows what all stars go thru. It will expand and the earth will not be livable anymore. After a few hundred million years the sun has expanded so much that it will "swallow" the earth. This is the scenario that all dying stars go thru... But of course it will not be because that God decided it to do so but because of evolution of stars.

I can see that you are from Jehovah's Witness. Do you want me to tell you what many of your fellow Christians think about you?


 
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I just need to add a question for you regarding your incredible belief about the different ethnicities and how they came about:

The genetics of Adam and Eve contained all the information necessary for their offspring to show the great variety we see today.So yes, that is 'evolution' if you want to call it that.
My Answer was:

So lets say that Adam & Eve where middle eastern because I think according to your scripture they were from that place on the earth. When they or their grand children later had kids did the kids come out as Asians, African, Native people or Caucasian etc. even though the mother and father were not of that ethnicity. That is basically what you are saying. You gave me a good laugh when I read it...
My new question:
So let's say hypothetically that your statement is true. Which location on earth where Adam and Eve when their children were born. Did they go to Europe to have Caucasian children. Did they then think..Let's travel to Asia because we know have to have some Asian kids. After that did they travel to Africa and had kids there. Did they do this for all different ethnicities which means they did a lot of traveling. They must also have been the first people in America and not Christofer Columbus because they must have went their to have birth to Native Americans in present day North America........or.......Did they have their children in the Middle east (the place were I think they are from according to your scripture) and the children that were white went to Europe, the Africans went to Africa and the Asians went to Asia. Did they also say..No, you're white...you can't travel to Asia...you should go to Europe...I hope you follow my point here....If not please tell me and I will explain more....
 
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Breathe

Hostis humani generis
My new question:
So let's say hypothetically that your statement is true. Which location on earth where Adam and Eve when their children were born. Did they go to Europe to have Caucasian children. Did they then think..Let's travel to Asia because we know have to have some Asian kids. After that did they travel to Africa and had kids there. Did they do this for all different ethnicities which means they did a lot of traveling. They must also have been the first people in America and not Christofer Columbus because they must have went their to have birth to Native Americans in present day North America........or.......Did they have their children in the Middle east (the place were I think they are from according to your scripture) and the children that were white went to Europe, the Africans went to Africa and the Asians went to Asia. Did they also say..No, you're white...you can't travel to Asia...you should go to Europe...I hope you follow my point here....If not please tell me and I will explain more....
What I thought the post said was that the different races came from Adam and Eve. Nothing about travelling from Europe to Asia to have Asian or European children. How did you get to your question? :confused:

Also, are you only after a literalistic perspective? Because, you know, they aren't that common. :p
 
What I thought the post said was that the different races came from Adam and Eve. Nothing about travelling from Europe to Asia to have Asian or European children. How did you get to your question? :confused:

Also, are you only after a literalistic perspective? Because, you know, they aren't that common. :p

I know that you don't take the Adam & Eve story literally because I think you mentioned that earlier but many do including the Jehovah's Witness person that I responded to.

So let me explain further :D

1. There are different ethnicities of humans on this earth (Asian, African, Native people, aborigines etc).
2. Some people believe that all Humans started with Adam & Eve including the Jehovah's Witness lady I responded to.
3. Adam & Eve must have belonged to one of these ethnicities Let's just to make it an example say that they were white.
4 Adam & Eve must have lived somewhere on this earth and the place should be in present day "middle east" but that is not the point.
5. If Adam & Eve were white they must have had white children
6. In Asia we have people with Asian ethnicity, In Europe we have people of white ethnicity, In Africa we have people of African ethnicity and so on. They look a little different from each other.
7. If Adam & Eve were white and all people started with Adam & Eve how can there be people of different ethnicity. Did Adam & Eve or their descendants have children of other ethnicity than their own.
8. My feedback that you had a question about goes back to how the people of different ethnicity ended up where they are and how once again that Adam & Eve could have a child with a different ethnicity than there own.

-Did Adam & Eve or their descendants have children of different ethnicity in the original place where they were born in present day Middle east and after that the children who were of Asian ethnicity moved to Asia, the children of African ethnicity moved to Africa, children of Native ethnicity moved to North America from the Middle east where they were born.
-or, Did Adam & Eve or their decadents who were of white ethnicity, travel to Asia for example and when they got there and had a child it would be of Asian ethnicity even though the parents were white.

I hope you understand my point.....Of all the different religious stories I think this is way up there among the wackiest...
 
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Breathe

Hostis humani generis
I know that you don't take the Adam & Eve story literally because I think you mentioned that earlier but many do including the Jehovah's Witness person that I responded to.
Yep, that's me; I don't take it literally. I don't think one who has an understanding of evolution can really argue against it as fact, whether they like it or not.

-Did Adam & Eve or their descendants have children of different ethnicity in the original place where they were born in present day Middle east and after that the children who were of Asian ethnicity moved to Asia, the children of African ethnicity moved to Africa, children of Native ethnicity moved to North America from the Middle east where they were born.
-or, Did Adam & Eve or their decadents who were of white ethnicity, travel to Asia for example and when they got there and had a child it would be of Asian ethnicity even though the parents were white.
I'd like to imagine that a creationist believes the former. I think so... I hope so anyway; the latter one would raise questions about why European-descent immigrants aren't born as First Nations now, but would apparently (presupposing the Adam and Eve myth was historical for a second) have been with Adam and Eve or earlier.
 
Yep, that's me; I don't take it literally. I don't think one who has an understanding of evolution can really argue against it as fact, whether they like it or not.


I'd like to imagine that a creationist believes the former. I think so... I hope so anyway; the latter one would raise questions about why European-descent immigrants aren't born as First Nations now, but would apparently (presupposing the Adam and Eve myth was historical for a second) have been with Adam and Eve or earlier.

I'm glad that you as a believer and me as a non-believer agree that this is just a myth. But there are many who believe in it..I found this: Pew Research Center find that four out of 10 Americans believe in Adam & Eve
No wonder that many people believe in all the fables in the bible if you believe in the Adam & Eve story literally, but then there are "sane" Christians like yourself....
I would like to see that picture in front of me with of couple of white decent (or whatever decent Adam& Eve were) holding up their new-born child in front of them in which the child is either of Asian, African, Native, Aborigine or any other decent other than their own.
 
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