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Jesus in the Flesh

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This man claims he is Jesus in the flesh and just maybe according to his logic he well maybe !

The archbishop of Canterbury has one of these very special crosses except his is silver in color not sure what type of metal it would be but very, very similar.
In the Hebrew language the word for Lord is Baal and often depicted as the goat footed man.
It is difficult to obtain a clearer image of this cross and I have not been able to get a hold of an image of the silver version the Archbishop of Canterbury uses but I have seen him use it via televised ceremonies.
Observe closely at the four corners of the cross it has images of the goat footed LORD.
In the center as is well known is the lamb of God, that is what happens when a goat has an off spring they have a kid.
Does the fact that this man admires this LORD so much have any bearing on the fact that he loves Jesus ?
Can a devil worshiper pray to Jesus, apparently so ?
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
This man claims he is Jesus in the flesh
The pope has never claimed to be Jesus in the flesh.

In the Hebrew language the word for Lord is Baal and often depicted as the goat footed man.
Which Ba'al? There are several.

Observe closely at the four corners of the cross it has images of the goat footed LORD.
Wrong. Observing a higher-detail of the cross:

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At the top is an Eagle. Right is a winged Bull, and Left is a winged Lion. The bottom, assumedly, would be a winged man. If you knew anything of Catholicism, these are the four symbols of the Evangelists, or the authors of the canonical gospels.

Matthew - Winged Man: Matthew's gospel starts with Joseph's genealogy from Abraham; it represents Jesus' Incarnation, and so christ's human nature. This signifies that Christians should use their reason for salvation.
Mark - Winged Lion: The lion also represents Jesus' resurrection (because lions were believed to sleep with open eyes, a comparison with Christ in the tomb), and christ as king. This signifies that Christians should be courageous on the path of salvation.
Luke - Winged Bull: Luke's account begins with the duties of Zacharias in the temple; it represents Jesus' sacrifice in his Passion and Crucifixion, as well as christ being high priest (this also represents Mary's obedience). The ox signifies that Christians should be prepared to sacrifice themselves in following christ.
John - Eagle: John starts with an eternal overview of Jesus the Logos and goes on to describe many things with a "higher" christology than the other three (synoptic) gospels; it represents Jesus' ascension, and christ's divine nature. This symbolizes that Christians should look on eternity without flinching as they journey towards their goal of union with god.
 
Looks like a sheep with a halo around its skull. Typical Christian fare. They wouldn't make a mistake like using a goat, surely?
Then again...
Hard to find decent staff-artificers these days, I'd imagine.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
View attachment 17752

This man claims he is Jesus in the flesh and just maybe according to his logic he well maybe !

The archbishop of Canterbury has one of these very special crosses except his is silver in color not sure what type of metal it would be but very, very similar.
In the Hebrew language the word for Lord is Baal and often depicted as the goat footed man.
It is difficult to obtain a clearer image of this cross and I have not been able to get a hold of an image of the silver version the Archbishop of Canterbury uses but I have seen him use it via televised ceremonies.
Observe closely at the four corners of the cross it has images of the goat footed LORD.
In the center as is well known is the lamb of God, that is what happens when a goat has an off spring they have a kid.
Does the fact that this man admires this LORD so much have any bearing on the fact that he loves Jesus ?
Can a devil worshiper pray to Jesus, apparently so ?

The authorities of the Church follow Jesus christ as his servants. The Pope (a bishop) is in the next line of Peter and from then on back to jesus.

No Bishop, priest, nor pope say they are jesus in the flesh. That's against the teachings of The Church.

I'd never compare any of god's children to the devil. That's horrible. Wolves in sheeps clothing?

Holding a cross doesnt make someone christ. Anti-catholics are something else.
 
The pope has never claimed to be Jesus in the flesh.


Which Ba'al? There are several.


Wrong. Observing a higher-detail of the cross:

View attachment 17758

At the top is an Eagle. Right is a winged Bull, and Left is a winged Lion. The bottom, assumedly, would be a winged man. If you knew anything of Catholicism, these are the four symbols of the Evangelists, or the authors of the canonical gospels.

Matthew - Winged Man: Matthew's gospel starts with Joseph's genealogy from Abraham; it represents Jesus' Incarnation, and so christ's human nature. This signifies that Christians should use their reason for salvation.
Mark - Winged Lion: The lion also represents Jesus' resurrection (because lions were believed to sleep with open eyes, a comparison with Christ in the tomb), and christ as king. This signifies that Christians should be courageous on the path of salvation.
Luke - Winged Bull: Luke's account begins with the duties of Zacharias in the temple; it represents Jesus' sacrifice in his Passion and Crucifixion, as well as christ being high priest (this also represents Mary's obedience). The ox signifies that Christians should be prepared to sacrifice themselves in following christ.
John - Eagle: John starts with an eternal overview of Jesus the Logos and goes on to describe many things with a "higher" christology than the other three (synoptic) gospels; it represents Jesus' ascension, and christ's divine nature. This symbolizes that Christians should look on eternity without flinching as they journey towards their goal of union with god.
The pope has never claimed to be Jesus in the flesh.


Which Ba'al? There are several.


Wrong. Observing a higher-detail of the cross:

View attachment 17758

At the top is an Eagle. Right is a winged Bull, and Left is a winged Lion. The bottom, assumedly, would be a winged man. If you knew anything of Catholicism, these are the four symbols of the Evangelists, or the authors of the canonical gospels.

Matthew - Winged Man: Matthew's gospel starts with Joseph's genealogy from Abraham; it represents Jesus' Incarnation, and so christ's human nature. This signifies that Christians should use their reason for salvation.
Mark - Winged Lion: The lion also represents Jesus' resurrection (because lions were believed to sleep with open eyes, a comparison with Christ in the tomb), and christ as king. This signifies that Christians should be courageous on the path of salvation.
Luke - Winged Bull: Luke's account begins with the duties of Zacharias in the temple; it represents Jesus' sacrifice in his Passion and Crucifixion, as well as christ being high priest (this also represents Mary's obedience). The ox signifies that Christians should be prepared to sacrifice themselves in following christ.
John - Eagle: John starts with an eternal overview of Jesus the Logos and goes on to describe many things with a "higher" christology than the other three (synoptic) gospels; it represents Jesus' ascension, and christ's divine nature. This symbolizes that Christians should look on eternity without flinching as they journey towards their goal of union with god.


Thanks for the image any chance you can post the bottom piece with the winged man devil ?
 
The authorities of the Church follow Jesus christ as his servants. The Pope (a bishop) is in the next line of Peter and from then on back to jesus.

No Bishop, priest, nor pope say they are jesus in the flesh. That's against the teachings of The Church.

I'd never compare any of god's children to the devil. That's horrible. Wolves in sheeps clothing?

Holding a cross doesnt make someone christ. Anti-catholics are something else.

They are on very shaky ground when they infer that the pope is christ incarnate as the word of christ.
 

eldios

Active Member
View attachment 17752

This man claims he is Jesus in the flesh and just maybe according to his logic he well maybe !

The archbishop of Canterbury has one of these very special crosses except his is silver in color not sure what type of metal it would be but very, very similar.
In the Hebrew language the word for Lord is Baal and often depicted as the goat footed man.
It is difficult to obtain a clearer image of this cross and I have not been able to get a hold of an image of the silver version the Archbishop of Canterbury uses but I have seen him use it via televised ceremonies.
Observe closely at the four corners of the cross it has images of the goat footed LORD.
In the center as is well known is the lamb of God, that is what happens when a goat has an off spring they have a kid.
Does the fact that this man admires this LORD so much have any bearing on the fact that he loves Jesus ?
Can a devil worshiper pray to Jesus, apparently so ?

Psalm 97
7: All worshipers of images are put to shame, who make their boast in worthless idols; all gods bow down before him.

Jeremiah 10
14: Every man is stupid and without knowledge; every goldsmith is put to shame by his idols; for his images are false, and there is no breath in them.
15: They are worthless, a work of delusion; at the time of their punishment they shall perish.

Zephaniah 1
18: Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them on the day of the wrath of the LORD. In the fire of his jealous wrath, all the earth shall be consumed; for a full, yea, sudden end he will make of all the inhabitants of the earth.
 
Psalm 97
7: All worshipers of images are put to shame, who make their boast in worthless idols; all gods bow down before him.

Jeremiah 10
14: Every man is stupid and without knowledge; every goldsmith is put to shame by his idols; for his images are false, and there is no breath in them.
15: They are worthless, a work of delusion; at the time of their punishment they shall perish.

Zephaniah 1
18: Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them on the day of the wrath of the LORD. In the fire of his jealous wrath, all the earth shall be consumed; for a full, yea, sudden end he will make of all the inhabitants of the earth.
Totally agree people like this are lost, there is a wall in front of me as I type it can see and hear as well as they.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
They are on very shaky ground when they infer that the pope is christ incarnate as the word of christ.

They say they speak for christ only when speaking ex cathedra. Peter would never say he is christ incarnate. That's just silly and not Church doctrine.

All members of the Church are the Body of Christ. Christ, in Catholic teaching, is the head of that body. They believe the Apostle Peter continued the Church after jesus' death. After Peter's death, the oral chain and tradition of Christ teachings and how to run his Church continues. The pope speaks for the body of christ when he speaks ex carthedra. He is not not christ but from Peter who was chosen to keep The Church of Christ together.

They infer that the pope is infallible when he speaks ex cathedra. They also infer only when he speaks ex cathedra, he is speaking for the body and authoritative of the Church which Roman Catholics (since everyone focuses on them even though they aren't the only Catholics) believe that that authority of whom was given from Christ to Peter and from Peter through the Popes.

No one said Peter is Christ incarnate, so no Church teaching as any pope is Christ incarnate. That's silly
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Looks like a sheep with a halo around its skull. Typical Christian fare. They wouldn't make a mistake like using a goat, surely?
Then again...
Hard to find decent staff-artificers these days, I'd imagine.

I would like to add ' so-called ' Christian fare because:
Genuine Christians walk by ' faith ' Not by sighted things according to 2 Corinthians 5:7.
Christians are warned to keep oneself from idols according to 1 John 7:21.
After the first century ended many started to come in Jesus' name but prove to be false.
Jesus gave an illustration that genuine ' wheat ' Christians would grow together over the centuries with the fake 'weed/tares' Christians until the ' harvest time '. As we know a harvest comes at the end of a growing season, which is also connected to the soon coming ' time of separation' on Earth as mentioned at Matthew 25:31-33,37.
 
They say they speak for christ only when speaking ex cathedra. Peter would never say he is christ incarnate. That's just silly and not Church doctrine.

All members of the Church are the Body of Christ. Christ, in Catholic teaching, is the head of that body. They believe the Apostle Peter continued the Church after jesus' death. After Peter's death, the oral chain and tradition of Christ teachings and how to run his Church continues. The pope speaks for the body of christ when he speaks ex carthedra. He is not not christ but from Peter who was chosen to keep The Church of Christ together.

They infer that the pope is infallible when he speaks ex cathedra. They also infer only when he speaks ex cathedra, he is speaking for the body and authoritative of the Church which Roman Catholics (since everyone focuses on them even though they aren't the only Catholics) believe that that authority of whom was given from Christ to Peter and from Peter through the Popes.

No one said Peter is Christ incarnate, so no Church teaching as any pope is Christ incarnate. That's silly

Lucifer lovers speak in lies but tell you the truth it is one of those things where they imagine they are superior to the sheep. You see it is Peter but it is not, it is Ptah which is pronounced as Peter. Rome was it is true founded on Peter but it was more than 1600 years prior to the Peter of the time of the gospels in the time when Rome was worshiping its god Saturn who was Ptah.
Saturn was the god of time the one with the sickle, he was a blood thirsty monster and was executed for his abominations. He had many names like Hu in the Sumerian this is why they like to call us Hu-mans as the blood line of the devil himself has infested mankind. The decision to allow man to continue was decided with the separation of the wheat to occur at the time of harvest which is soon. The story is told in varying cultural forms, the Isis, Osiris, Horus, the Semiarimas, Nimrod,Tammuz and the Cronus, Rhea, Zeus being the obvious ones it is all the same story, Saturn being Cronus Roman name. The star of David was not the star of David it represents Saturn as the northern pole of Saturn has this pentagram star anomaly occurring and when Luciferians pray they pray not to a star but the great planet. It is always the father, mother and son story. The mother being Venus but also associated with the moon as her father was the god of the moon and the son is of course the sun, the unconquerable Mithra. When you search google and type Lord you get images of Jesus but they are actually images identical to Zeus, there was no J letter he was ioseus io being praise rendering ioseus as praise Zeus. We still do it today my country Australia at international sport shouts ozzie, ozzie, ozzie, oi,oi, oi. Ozzie being just another way of saying Osiris.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Lucifer lovers speak in lies but tell you the truth it is one of those things where they imagine they are superior to the sheep. You see it is Peter but it is not, it is Ptah which is pronounced as Peter. Rome was it is true founded on Peter but it was more than 1600 years prior to the Peter of the time of the gospels in the time when Rome was worshiping its god Saturn who was Ptah.
Saturn was the god of time the one with the sickle, he was a blood thirsty monster and was executed for his abominations. He had many names like Hu in the Sumerian this is why they like to call us Hu-mans as the blood line of the devil himself has infested mankind. The decision to allow man to continue was decided with the separation of the wheat to occur at the time of harvest which is soon. The story is told in varying cultural forms, the Isis, Osiris, Horus, the Semiarimas, Nimrod,Tammuz and the Cronus, Rhea, Zeus being the obvious ones it is all the same story, Saturn being Cronus Roman name. The star of David was not the star of David it represents Saturn as the northern pole of Saturn has this pentagram star anomaly occurring and when Luciferians pray they pray not to a star but the great planet. It is always the father, mother and son story. The mother being Venus but also associated with the moon as her father was the god of the moon and the son is of course the sun, the unconquerable Mithra. When you search google and type Lord you get images of Jesus but they are actually images identical to Zeus, there was no J letter he was ioseus io being praise rendering ioseus as praise Zeus. We still do it today my country Australia at international sport shouts ozzie, ozzie, ozzie, oi,oi, oi. Ozzie being just another way of saying Osiris.

I can't read all of that. I'm just telling you what the Church teaches. The only thing I can see you having a problem with is the Pope's infallibility. The apostles never claimed they spoke without fault. However, that is a Roman Catholic teaching. Orthodox do not believe in the Pope's infallibility. A lot of things you all have issues with is not a general Catholic teaching but specific to many Roman Catholic teachings but your claims are distorted. It could be because of your age. If you have been Catholic before the 1980s. Your experiences in the Church if you were indoctrinated. Your bias about the Church if you've never been in one. Many factors.

Satan has nothing to do with Roman Catholicism. That's silly. Have you ever participated as an adult in Mass (with other christians)? Really, without bias, see and understand what it means to be a Catholic without belittling your brothers and sisters in christ?

This whole bashing Catholics get's on my nerves. If you don't have something nice to say about them, don't say anything at all.
 

Shiranui117

Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
Premium Member
Psalm 97
7: All worshipers of images are put to shame, who make their boast in worthless idols; all gods bow down before him.

Jeremiah 10
14: Every man is stupid and without knowledge; every goldsmith is put to shame by his idols; for his images are false, and there is no breath in them.
15: They are worthless, a work of delusion; at the time of their punishment they shall perish.

Zephaniah 1
18: Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them on the day of the wrath of the LORD. In the fire of his jealous wrath, all the earth shall be consumed; for a full, yea, sudden end he will make of all the inhabitants of the earth.
On the contrary, God quite likes graven images. He even commands that they be made to decorate the Ark of the Covenant, and He quite happily dwelled in a temple absolutely covered in images.

Exodus 25:
“You shall make a mercy seat of pure gold. Two cubits and a half shall be its length, and a cubit and a half its breadth. 18 And you shall make two cherubim of gold; of hammered work shall you make them, on the two ends of the mercy seat. 19 Make one cherub on the one end, and one cherub on the other end. Of one piece with the mercy seat shall you make the cherubim on its two ends. 20 The cherubim shall spread out their wings above, overshadowing the mercy seat with their wings, their faces one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubim be. 21 And you shall put the mercy seat on the top of the ark, and in the ark you shall put the testimony that I shall give you. 22 There I will meet with you, and from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubim that are on the ark of the testimony, I will speak with you about all that I will give you in commandment for the people of Israel.

1 Kings 6-7
14 So Solomon built the house and finished it. . . . 17 The house, that is, the nave in front of the inner sanctuary, was forty cubits long. 18 The cedar within the house was carved in the form of gourds and open flowers. All was cedar; no stone was seen. 19 The inner sanctuary he prepared in the innermost part of the house, to set there the ark of the covenant of the Lord. . . .

23 In the inner sanctuary he made two cherubim of olivewood, each ten cubits high. 24 Five cubits was the length of one wing of the cherub, and five cubits the length of the other wing of the cherub; it was ten cubits from the tip of one wing to the tip of the other. 25 The other cherub also measured ten cubits; both cherubim had the same measure and the same form. 26 The height of one cherub was ten cubits, and so was that of the other cherub. 27 He put the cherubim in the innermost part of the house. And the wings of the cherubim were spread out so that a wing of one touched the one wall, and a wing of the other cherub touched the other wall; their other wings touched each other in the middle of the house. 28 And he overlaid the cherubim with gold.

29 Around all the walls of the house he carved engraved figures of cherubim and palm trees and open flowers, in the inner and outer rooms. 30 The floor of the house he overlaid with gold in the inner and outer rooms.

31 For the entrance to the inner sanctuary he made doors of olivewood; the lintel and the doorposts were five-sided. 32 He covered the two doors of olivewood with carvings of cherubim, palm trees, and open flowers. He overlaid them with gold and spread gold on the cherubim and on the palm trees.

33 So also he made for the entrance to the nave doorposts of olivewood, in the form of a square, 34 and two doors of cypress wood. The two leaves of the one door were folding, and the two leaves of the other door were folding. 35 On them he carved cherubim and palm trees and open flowers, and he overlaid them with gold evenly applied on the carved work. 36 He built the inner court with three courses of cut stone and one course of cedar beams.
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17 There were lattices of checker work with wreaths of chain work for the capitals on the tops of the pillars, a lattice for the one capital and a lattice for the other capital. 18 Likewise he made pomegranates in two rows around the one latticework to cover the capital that was on the top of the pillar, and he did the same with the other capital. 19 Now the capitals that were on the tops of the pillars in the vestibule were of lily-work, four cubits. 20 The capitals were on the two pillars and also above the rounded projection which was beside the latticework. There were two hundred pomegranates in two rows all around, and so with the other capital. 21 He set up the pillars at the vestibule of the temple. He set up the pillar on the south and called its name Jachin, and he set up the pillar on the north and called its name Boaz. 22 And on the tops of the pillars was lily-work. Thus the work of the pillars was finished.

23 Then he made the sea of cast metal. It was round, ten cubits from brim to brim, and five cubits high, and a line of thirty cubits measured its circumference. 24 Under its brim were gourds, for ten cubits, compassing the sea all around. The gourds were in two rows, cast with it when it was cast. 25 It stood on twelve oxen, three facing north, three facing west, three facing south, and three facing east. The sea was set on them, and all their rear parts were inward. 26 Its thickness was a handbreadth, and its brim was made like the brim of a cup, like the flower of a lily. It held two thousand baths.

27 He also made the ten stands of bronze. Each stand was four cubits long, four cubits wide, and three cubits high. 28 This was the construction of the stands: they had panels, and the panels were set in the frames, 29 and on the panels that were set in the frames were lions, oxen, and cherubim. On the frames, both above and below the lions and oxen, there were wreaths of beveled work.
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
All worshipers of images are put to shame ... Every man is stupid and without knowledge; every goldsmith is put to shame by his idols; for his images are false, and there is no breath in them.

/sigh, more wanton ignorance of what idols are, I see. Though it's faintly amusing that you think we think they're alive.

Satan has nothing to do with Roman Catholicism.
Technically, he does, but - as with other sects of Christianity - as the enemy of the faith.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
/sigh, more wanton ignorance of what idols are, I see. Though it's faintly amusing that you think we think they're alive.


Technically, he does, but - as with other sects of Christianity - as the enemy of the faith.


In other words, the OP is assuming Catholic belief come from Satan. Satan has nothing to do with it. Satan doesn't disprove Catholicism and support the OP's claim since Catholics teachings do not promote any teachings promoting satan worship.

It's addressing the bias of the OP not whether or not satan is part of Catholicism.
 

eldios

Active Member
/sigh, more wanton ignorance of what idols are, I see. Though it's faintly amusing that you think we think they're alive.


Technically, he does, but - as with other sects of Christianity - as the enemy of the faith.

Any visible image that human beings observe deceives them of their true created existence as the Word of God unless they are chosen to be enlightened with the knowledge of how they're created. Once you understand how we're created, then you will understand where all those visible images come from and how they will be destroyed on the day of the Lord.

2 Peter 3
10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and the works that are upon it will be burned up.
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
That's a lot of word salad, really fantastic, but you still don't understand the function of idols, and are thus unfit to criticize them.
 
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