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Jesus isn't the son of God.

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Desert Snake

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It's metaphor.

I realized, that when I say that ''Jesus is God'', many people are interpreting that as some sort of declaration that Jesu is a different type of deity, or something. Hence a demi-god/?//

Anyways, what I actually mean, is that YHWH manifested through Jesu; there is no demi-god, or middleman, in my beliefs.

Goes to show that we all have to explain ourselves, even when using simple statements.


have a nice day.
 
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Unveiled Artist

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:cool: Guess so.

I actually find that odd to believe Jesus as a manestation of God. I mean the spirit of grandmother is manefested in me as she is a part of me. When I say my prayers, she is acting through me as I in her. My grandmother is not just "a part of" me; she Is me. She and the rest of my family on back, makes me, me. Unless that is how you see Jesus, I still looking for the how that makes Jesus a God of any interpretation.

disciple said:
It's metaphor.

I realized, that when I say that ''Jesus is God'', many people are interpreting that as some sort of declaration that Jesu is a different type of deity, or something. Hence a demi-god/?//

Anyways, what I actually mean, is that YHWH manifested through Jesu; there is no demi-god, or middleman, in my beliefs.

Goes to show that we all have to explain ourselves, even when using simple statements.


have a nice day.
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Demi-god sounds kinda, um, off. :oops: too.
 
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Jesus is Jesus.Yahweh is God the Almighty.Jesus is not God the Almighty.Jesus is the Son of God the Almighty.Two totally separate entities.God the Almighty created and gave life to Jesus.
 
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Desert Snake

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Carlita said:
I would say Jesus is divine. DemiGod reminds me of mythology. I dont believe in deities;so, seeing a man as God is just odd.
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Im not totally sure of how you view that 'divinity'. If you mean, divine, as in the same as everyone else, then it has no specific meaning.
 
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Unveiled Artist

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disciple said:
Im not totally sure of how you view that 'divinity'. If you mean, divine, as in the same as everyone else, then it has no specific meaning.
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We are all divine. God is not "greater". There is no hierachy in our spiritual natures and in spirituality. That is a foreign concept to me that there is "something greater or beyond". Our lives are "worth" living. We have "love" and are given life by the earth. We give "gratitude" to others, to nature, to ourselves. We are "humble" among the sacred (the "spirit" within us). These are, and more, characteristics of the divine. God is not a part from life on earth and beyond. We are not the center of the universe.

When we know this, and LIVE this, that is divinity. Nothing "special."
 
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You realize that I disagree with you, that I believe Jesus to be the Son of God. I don't really like the term "demigod", makes me think of Hercules and other demigods. On top of that, we really don't believe that Jesus was a demigod, we believe that He was 100% man and 100% God. He was 100% man while He walked among people meaning He could suffer, get hungry, and even die. 100% God, as well, because we believe He could have overrode that at any time, if He had chosen to.
I don't really like discussing these kinds of details of my faith in a debate, however.
 
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Desert Snake

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Bible Student said:
One.There is only one true God, who is the Almighty.The Supreme being.Then there is Jesus ,and the followers.All this is by way of the holy sprit.
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How is the 'identity' of Jesu, different than Gods, then? You seem to be separating them, however, if you believe that Jesus is divine via the Spirit, then are you not saying that Jesus's identity, among us, was actually Gods? Or do you believe in a strict separation?

To clarify my beliefs further, I believe that ''Jesus'' is a manifestation of YHWH, that goes further than just Jesus being ''possessed'' by God; Jesu is a specific manifestation, that is outside reference to an Israeli Rabbi, or, the ''man story'', of Jesus. The name Jesus is simply describing this Deific manifestation of YHWH.
 
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disciple said:
How is the 'identity' of Jesu, different than Gods, then? You seem to be separating them, however, if you believe that Jesus is divine via the Spirit, then are you not saying that Jesus's identity, among us, was actually Gods? Or do you believe in a strict separation?

To clarify my beliefs further, I believe that ''Jesus'' is a manifestation of YHWH, that goes further than just Jesus being ''possessed'' by God; Jesu is a specific manifestation, that is outside reference to an Israeli Rabbi, or, the ''man story'', of Jesus. The name Jesus is simply describing this Deific manifestation of YHWH.
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Yes,Jesus displays Gods attributes, but in no way are they the same being.One is above the other.One created the other.One is more powerful than the other.They are two separate individuals.Jesus receives his power from God.It is GIVEN to Jesus.
 
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Desert Snake

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Carlita said:
We are all divine. God is not "greater". There is no hierachy in our spiritual natures and in spirituality. That is a foreign concept to me that there is "something greater or beyond". Our lives are "worth" living. We have "love" and are given life by the earth. We give "gratitude" to others, to nature, to ourselves. We aee "humble" among the sacred (the "spirit" within us). These are, and more, characteristics of the divine. God is not a part from life on earth and beyond. We are not the center of the universe.

When we know this, and LIVE this, that is divinity. Nothing "special."
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Fair enough. I would disagree as to the nature of God, however.
 
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Desert Snake

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Bible Student said:
Yes,Jesus displays Gods attributes, but in no way are they the same being.One is above the other.One created the other.One is more powerful than the other.They are two separate individuals.Jesus receives his power from God.It is GIVEN to Jesus.
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Ok, great. Then who is Jesus, according to you? Is He a deified Rabbi, etc..
 
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disciple said:
Ok, great. Then who is Jesus, according to you? Is He a deified Rabbi, etc..
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Jesus is Gods firstborn over all creation.His only begotten Son.He was a spirit first,then he became flesh and taught Gods word to the 1st century Christians.He does as the Father tells him and displays love.That is why Jesus says when you see me you see the Father.He means it metaphorically,not literally.He is saying watch what I do and this is what the Fathers does.
 
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Desert Snake

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Bible Student said:
Jesus is Gods firstborn over all creation.His only begotten Son.He was a spirit first,then he became flesh and taught Gods word to the 1st century Christians.He does as the Father tells him and displays love.That is why Jesus says when you see me you see the Father.He means it metaphorically,not literally.He is saying watch what I do and this is what the Fathers does.
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How would you argue against someone claiming that to be a ''Demi-god''? What you are describing, seems to be a separate entity.
 
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disciple said:
How would you argue against someone claiming that to be a ''Demi-god''? What you are describing, seems to be a separate entity.
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Of course! How many times do I have to post it.Yes,I am saying they are separate entities.Wow!
 
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