Wirey
Fartist
Jimmy Carter slams ?financial corruption? in U.S. elections - World - CBC News
Seems he's prefer to get rid of Citizens United.
Seems he's prefer to get rid of Citizens United.
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Jimmy Carter call US Elections 'Financially corrupt'
- Thread starter Wirey
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Such a narrow view.
Our elections are also emotionally, intellectually, philosophically, politically & ethically corrupt.
Democracy is messy & vicious....always has been....always will be.
Our elections are also emotionally, intellectually, philosophically, politically & ethically corrupt.
Democracy is messy & vicious....always has been....always will be.
Alceste
Vagabond
I agree with him. You should not be able to buy a politician, no matter how much money you're willing to put up.
My cousin had a nice career as a lobbyist buying US politicians, including senators. He didn't discriminate against any particular party -- he was willing to buy the elected representatives of both parties, including their aides. At a party at my cousin's house, I once made the social gaff of announcing that I favored one of the parties over the other. The room went silent, everyone looked at me, and my cousin's sister, who was the hostess of the party, gave the waiters orders to cut me off my scotch on the grounds that I must be drunk to prefer one party over the other. Not a good night for me. But it eventually led to my belief that some mechanism for public funding of elections needs to be in place if we are to have a representative democracy.
Then government gets to choose who may run.
I prefer money based corruption to political corruption.
Reptillian
Hamburgler Extraordinaire
Wooo!! That does it, I'm a huge Jimmy Carter fan!
I don't think it has to be like that. It all depends on how you arrange it.
I agree with you. (It happens now & then.)
But I see a greater risk for tyranny, since government has a greater role in leader selection.
Alceste
Vagabond
What's the difference?
Decentralization.
Alceste
Vagabond
You think the corporations who are buying your politicians are decentralized?
More so than having government as the sole arbiter of who may run for office.
Alceste
Vagabond
Why do you assume the government would be pickier than the likes of the Koch brothers? Surely anybody who met the requirements (a certain amount of public support, shown by signatures, for example) would be able to run. Are you aware of any other public sector service that openly discriminates against people on the basis of their political opinions?
This is a false question....like asking if you have stopped beating your husband yet.
For the record: I have not stopped beating your husband yet either.
Systems can be gamed. Whatever method you design for doling out gov funding can be manipulated. If money comes from private sources, that is
some separation of powers. It's the reason that we have jury trials, & don't leave all decisions solely up to a judge, who is a government employee.
I'll rephrase your question to comport with my claim.
Does government seek to influence who may run & who may speak in elections?
Yes.
Arizona Campaign Finance (Second Challenge) | The Institute for Justice
The Institute for Justice
Washington Political Speech | The Institute for Justice
We also see that restrictions on "contributions in kind" to campaigns are not at all enforced when news media take partisan editorial positions.
dust1n
Zindīq
Stop the presses...
Old Scratch
Active Member
Jimmy Carter....the gift that keeps on giving. Seldom does a minion with such efficacy & longevity perform.
My current one only so lucky should be, but alas, Jimmy in the gray matter department more gifted is.
The more power consolidated into My oligarchy becomes, the more My power grows. Beware, you miserable
excuses for hominids! The End nigh is! Booowhahahhahahahhahahahah, etc!
My current one only so lucky should be, but alas, Jimmy in the gray matter department more gifted is.
The more power consolidated into My oligarchy becomes, the more My power grows. Beware, you miserable
excuses for hominids! The End nigh is! Booowhahahhahahahhahahahah, etc!
Dirty Penguin
Master Of Ceremony
How are they not hand in hand?
I think there are varying degrees of political corruption that may not have anything to do with money...but I see "money" as one of the most powerful motivators for political corruption.
Dang! You almost answered this question in your continuation below.
(We're not so far apart.)
Certainly, it's a problem that politicians can be bribed, & that money can buy air time to overwhelm the competition.
But to eliminate the influence of money looks to enable other forms of corruption, particularly government control over what is said & by whom.
I thought it was the Bilderbergers, illuminati, Masons, Rothchilds.