Journalists ethics SPJ

[Unveiled Artist]

SPJ Code of Ethics - Society of Professional Journalists

Ideally, from what I've learned, news reporters shouldn't incert their personal opinions and remarks with their news stories. They do anyhow.

Doesn't this discredit the validity of these stories?

We ask for objectivity in religious claims, from some but not of politics. Why is that?

 

[alsome]

It all depends on what channel you're watching.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

The ones that aren't infotainment

 

[Secret Chief]

SPJ Code of Ethics - Society of Professional Journalists

Ideally, from what I've learned, news reporters shouldn't incert their personal opinions and remarks with their news stories. They do anyhow.

Doesn't this discredit the validity of these stories?

We ask for objectivity in religious claims, from some but not of politics. Why is that?

People own media outlets (TV, online and print) to push their own political agenda. The journalists toe the line believing the propaganda or go along with it as a career move. News, truth, facts... what were you thinking?
Sometimes people get fed up with this...

Climate protesters target newspapers

 

[sun rise]

The ideal is wonderful. The reality is that we have human beings making biased judgements.

What is sad is the return to 'yellow journalism' where outlets pander to their audiences by serving up material to allow easy confirmation bias.

Fortunately it's not universal such as the Fox reporter who confirmed Trump's disdain for military 'losers' as he thinks of them.

 

[SomeRandom]

I feel like this is more intense in the US than the rest of the West. No doubt we have very biased news outlets here. The left leaning A Current Affairs, which relies on emotionality rather than journalism. Sky News is for righties and seems rather hyperbolic, imo. At least from what I’ve seen. I dunno.
But the US is in a whole other league from what I’ve seen. I watch either the left or right leaning news outlets from the US and I’m just like

 

[Sunstone]

Journalists who treat both sides as equal are often guilty of malpractice because most often the sides are not equal, and to represent them as such is to promulgate misinformation.

 

[Revoltingest]

It all depends on what channel you're watching.

Oh, I disagree.
The differences are only in degree & agenda.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

The ideal is wonderful. The reality is that we have human beings making biased judgements.

What is sad is the return to 'yellow journalism' where outlets pander to their audiences by serving up material to allow easy confirmation bias.

Fortunately it's not universal such as the Fox reporter who confirmed Trump's disdain for military 'losers' as he thinks of them.

Hm. Which makes me think, even people's opinions about Trump could be more confirmed bias than objective facts. That and/or when presented with objective facts, they experience cognitive dissonance and go with what best suits their comfort especially if it's with the majority as to not contradict past opinions to not appear as a hypocrite.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I feel like this is more intense in the US than the rest of the West. No doubt we have very biased news outlets here. The left leaning A Current Affairs, which relies on emotionality rather than journalism. Sky News is for righties and seems rather hyperbolic, imo. At least from what I’ve seen. I dunno.
But the US is in a whole other league from what I’ve seen. I watch either the left or right leaning news outlets from the US and I’m just like
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I haven't been out of the states to compare. But that's basically the gist. Once someone says something against someone else or make a dichotomy of us v. them/right v. wrong, it sends a red flag that I have no interest in looking into.

 

[alsome]

Oh we know you like FOX

 

[sun rise]

Hm. Which makes me think, even people's opinions about Trump could be more confirmed bias than objective facts. That and/or when presented with objective facts, they experience cognitive dissonance and go with what best suits their comfort especially if it's with the majority as to not contradict past opinions to not appear as a hypocrite.

What to me is notable is how many conservatives are coming out for Biden who is far from conservative. Confirmation bias is real but not absolute. When the evidence gets strong enough, it can override the assumptions of many people.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

What to me is notable is how many conservatives are coming out for Biden who is far from conservative. Confirmation bias is real but not absolute. When the evidence gets strong enough, it can override the assumptions of many people.

What if that evidence wasn't objective but based on biases one may be blind to?

 

[lewisnotmiller]

I feel like this is more intense in the US than the rest of the West. No doubt we have very biased news outlets here. The left leaning A Current Affairs, which relies on emotionality rather than journalism. Sky News is for righties and seems rather hyperbolic, imo. At least from what I’ve seen. I dunno.
But the US is in a whole other league from what I’ve seen. I watch either the left or right leaning news outlets from the US and I’m just like
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Meh...unfortunately we shouldn't be too quick to judge.
One of the reasons for the more extreme news services available in the USA is simply around population size, so capturing a niche is profitable.
Our issue in Australia is a very high concentration of media ownership in a very small number of hands. That messaging you are getting might be much more considered than some of the US examples, but there is very limited protection against bias here.

It's one reason I see our state television as important (ironically).

 

[SomeRandom]

Meh...unfortunately we shouldn't be too quick to judge.
One of the reasons for the more extreme news services available in the USA is simply around population size, so capturing a niche is profitable.
Our issue in Australia is a very high concentration of media ownership in a very small number of hands. That messaging you are getting might be much more considered than some of the US examples, but there is very limited protection against bias here.

It's one reason I see our state television as important (ironically).

Our real issue is that our news simply isn’t as entertaining lol.
It’s like we have the “serious business” news on the nightly news. SBS reports on world affairs. Even as a kid I could tell the difference between Lee Lin Chin reporting in a neutral indifferent tone and the panel type shows arguing politics.
Granted I recognise that I have a left leaning bias and maybe that is partly informed by the news sources I watched during my formative years. And that is curated by the “powers that be.”
But you have to admit, when American news goes for their political spin, be it the left leaning TYT or the right leaning Fox, they go all out.

 

[Twilight Hue]

SPJ Code of Ethics - Society of Professional Journalists

Ideally, from what I've learned, news reporters shouldn't incert their personal opinions and remarks with their news stories. They do anyhow.

Doesn't this discredit the validity of these stories?

We ask for objectivity in religious claims, from some but not of politics. Why is that?

It would serve better to disclose an opinion piece then trying to pass it off as reported news.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Our real issue is that our news simply isn’t as entertaining lol.

Heh...Yep, I agree with that.

It’s like we have the “serious business” news on the nightly news. SBS reports on world affairs. Even as a kid I could tell the difference between Lee Lin Chin reporting in a neutral indifferent tone and the panel type shows arguing politics.

There has been attempts at political satire over the years. Don't know if you're old enough to remember Rubbery Figures, or Max Gilies, or Clarke and Dawe. Heck, even The Panel used to talk about some political stuff in a slightly different way. But in a modern sense it's pretty bad. I really would like some good Australian TV poltical satire, but what I've seen rarely hits the mark.

Granted I recognise that I have a left leaning bias and maybe that is partly informed by the news sources I watched during my formative years. And that is curated by the “powers that be.”
But you have to admit, when American news goes for their political spin, be it the left leaning TYT or the right leaning Fox, they go all out.

Yup. But Alan Jones is on Sky now, and Andrew Bolt gets his own show, so if you want some wacky right-wing stuff, you might be able to find it. It's just delivered in a fairly unentertaining fashion.

 

[SomeRandom]

There has been attempts at political satire over the years. Don't know if you're old enough to remember Rubbery Figures, or Max Gilies, or Clarke and Dawe. Heck, even The Panel used to talk about some political stuff in a slightly different way. But in a modern sense it's pretty bad. I really would like some good Australian TV poltical satire, but what I've seen rarely hits the mark.

Afraid not. I’m a snot nosed punk brat millenial.
But I would welcome some political satire.

Yup. But Alan Jones is on Sky now, and Andrew Bolt gets his own show, so if you want some wacky right-wing stuff, you might be able to find it. It's just delivered in a fairly unentertaining fashion.

Ehh, it’s no Alex Jones. Now that guy was bat**** but hilarious.