Judaism originated in Greece

[angellous_evangellous]

Good grief, there are historic writings by Ptolemy about the Jews from the the Third century BCE, scrolls containing prayers form the book of Numbers are dated to be from about 600 BCE...

... not to mention the usage of Sumerian king lists...

 

[Smoke]

lol erm mate ill think you find that Judiaism is older than the greek religion....

Not really. Hellenic paganism goes back to the Bronze age, just like Yahwism.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

:biglaugh:

:yes: yep - just another case of garbage in, garbage out, from someone apparently addicted to fruit loops.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Not really. Hellenic paganism goes back to the Bronze age, just like Yahwism.

But the OP does not descibe earliest Hellenic paganism of the Bronze Age, but the highly refined Hellenism of the classical period.

note: Helladic period - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The oldest known source for Greek myth is Homer, who Herodotus dates at 850BCE.

note: Bronze Age - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - 3300BCE - 1200BCE.

 

[herushura]

Good grief, there are historic writings by Ptolemy about the Jews from the the Third century BCE, scrolls containing prayers form the book of Numbers are dated to be from about 600 BCE...

the term JEW was invented from the christian doctine, infact JEW does relate to a Religion, but a Location.

Example, King Herod is Called "King of the Jews". but this title does not mean King Herod religion was Judaism.

King of Jew title was created by the Roman Empire as King Herod was Appointed by Claudius, as the King of the Jews,

The Term King of the Jews is a political title, that referes Herod, as King of Judea Province.
Jew--JEWdea

King Herods Primary god was not yhwh, it was Jove, the Roman God. Yet if King herod spoke hebrew, and his god was Jove, then Jove is Yhwh.

 

[herushura]

All the religion of the Roman Empire(including Jerusolem) was controlled by the Pontifax Maximus(todays equiivilent to the Pope.

Pontiifax Maximus;
Julius Caeser
Marcus Aeumilius
Augustus Caeser

the Christ Religion is a mutation of Caeser-Religion, during the funeral ceromonies of Caeser a comet appeared, Julius Caeser was proclaimed ressurected, and after became one with Jupiter, Historic fact, that a Wax replicate of Caesers body was Crucifed then Burnt.

Above, caesers Armour on a Cross(thus a Crucifed Caeser)

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Oh my goodness.

 

[herushura]

... not to mention the usage of Sumerian king lists...

I compared the Sumerian king list my self, i see no corrolation with the biblical geneologys

http://divusjulius.wordpress.com/2010/03/17/liberalia2010/

 

[angellous_evangellous]

No more caffiene for you, herushura.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

i compared th sumerian king list my self, i se no corrolation with the biblical geneologys

hahahaahahah

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Here it is, folks - the sham - Divus Julius - English

For easy access - http://www.carotta.de/subseite/texte/jwc_e/contents.html

 

[herushura]

hahahaahahah

The only corrolation of sumerian biblical geneology is that fact, there was a dynasty of 10 kings, afterwhich a flood occured(Locallized Flood)

Infact a similer corrolation occurs in platos atlantis,

A Creation > A Series of 10 Kings > A Flood

 

[angellous_evangellous]

The only corrolation of sumerian biblical geneology is that fact, there was a dynasty of 10 kings, afterwhich a flood occured(Locallized Flood)

Infact a similer corrolation occurs in platos atlantis,

A Creation > A Series of 10 Kings > A Flood

I can't help you.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

OK, herushura, I was able to locate the book that you're using for your New Testament / Christianity delusions...

If you would be so kind as to provide me with the book you're using for the relationship between Judaism and Greece, it would greatly help me.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

You aren't the author of this book, are you?

 

[angellous_evangellous]

A song while I wait

[youtube]1J_CmSi6CVI[/youtube]
YouTube - Willie Nelson - Whiskey River

 

[herushura]

The ancient Israelite name for God is Eloah (plural/regal form: Elohiym), not Yahweh, so your question is not as relevant as you seem to think.

The earliest parts of the Bible use only the name based on the common Semitic root for God which is a-l-h.

Besides, the people of Ugarit (ie. between 1200-1800 B.C.E) mentioned the name Yahweh as a god also long before then.

Fact is most of the flow of religious, cultural, linguistic ideas were from the Middle East, towards Greece, not the other way 'round. From deities to alphabets, they borrowed much of it from the centre of civilisation in that time, the Middle East.

Yet Eloah is itself a Polytheistic God, and there is no evidence that he was worshiped monothesiticly back then.

I do believe that the Greek pantheon originated in Pheonica/Caanan whom are originated in Sumeria/Akkad. (Anu>Ourunus>Uranos)

But believe that the Authors of the Torah was heavily influenced by Greek Writings.

The Etymology of Olympus is unknown, yet on a symbolic level, Olympus and Elohim are the same thing - Both spoke with one Voice - Elohim is etymologicly like Olym, the prefix of Olympus.

Therfor, Olympus and Elohim have a common origin, stemmed from the same source, but it highly likely that one stemmed from the other.

They are about 5 Flood Accounts, Sumerian Flood / Akkadian Flood / Deucalions Flood / Judaism Flood.

The Pheonicans is the link between Akkadian mythology and Greek Mythology, thus therfore they must be a Pheonican Flood Story to be found, maybe this lost flood story is what became Noahs Flood

 

[angellous_evangellous]

This makes me want to cry.

Someone rescue this guy before he hurts himself.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

They are about 5 Flood Accounts, Sumerian Flood / Akkadian Flood / Deucalions Flood / Judaism Flood.

How many?

Deluge myth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[herushura]

A big fat book, called the A-Z of Mythology, from a book store called, cant remember shop.

basicly lists anything mythical A to Z.

Books i read at school, we learnt about greek mythology, like Theseus/perseus mainly the Heroes.

also use theoi.com, it refrences quotes from many greek books like apollodoris