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Keep saying that, over and over, now close your eyes and click your heels three times ... oh my! still not true.
Keep saying that, over and over, now close your eyes and click your heels three times ... oh my!
The very fact that vaccines work proves you're full of it. But sure. LIve in your echo chamber.
What's taking so long for creationists to do this then?
Well for starters, because it's anecdotal. Because we don't actually have these thousands of eyewitness accounts. Because we have no way of testing accounts of specific "miraculous" events that supposedly happened thousands of years ago. Because people can be (and often are) mistaken about things. Because random stories are no where near as verifiable or testable as the systematic collection and analysis of evidence by multiple groups of people all across the globe, using multiple different tools of investigation, across multiple fields of science. Because empirical evidence is measurable, testable, repeatable and verifiable in ways that the stories of ancient sheepherders are not.
Again with the lie, you think that if you say if often enough it will become true. I am amazed at the egotism you display going up against the best minds in the world, who say, to a virtual certainty and a virtual consensus that you're full of beans and have naught to offer but arguments from ignorance.
Where does the Bible say, "In 2016 ... this and this will happen " ... ? Oh, it doesn't. It's just vague suggestions and ambiguous statements. hmmmmmI do not see that science is on the same level as religion, even though I do see equivalent religious fervor displayed by many of its devotees.
You treat science like I treat God.....did you not notice this?
Ever heard of adoption? The poor orphaned child was so alone that all the sciences decided to become its surrogate daddy. Tell me what branch of science rejects evolution.....?
In whose opinion?
If you had kept up with the theme of this thread, you would understand that I have equated these two belief systems all along.
You have no more proof for organic evolution than I do for an Intelligent Designer. Your position is not superior to mine just because science markets its beliefs better than ID proponents do.....then we have to consider the nonsense that creationist rattle on with, so no wonder we are behind the eight ball......yet this is exactly the position that the Bible says we would be in at this time in history....go figure.
The same psychology works for the power of suggestion, no matter what the subject is. Advertisers know full well that the way to get your product out there is to shoot down the other fellow's product and tell them how much better off they are with yours. Truth is lost in the marketing. Have you never heard of perception management?......look it up.
Still waiting for you to provide evidence of some kind of mechanism that acts as a barrier for small changes adding up to larger ones over long periods of time. Remember, you'd be the first to find it.I have spent many years investigating evolution. I only have to read their articles or listen to their videos to see and hear the vague language that evolutionist use, but their devotees never seem to notice. It doesn't take long to discover that evolution is a massive fraud, masquerading as scientific fact. Evolution is sold to the masses by deception....everything is based on assumption....but assumptions are not facts.
You cannot take adaptation, which involves minor changes within a species, and turn it into "a microbe became a dinosaur".
Throwing millions of years at this scenario will never make it true. There is simply no way to prove that it ever happened.
Now, don't tell me...let me guess...have you sold out to theistic evolution......?That appears to be the place where Christians or those who want to believe in a Creator, yet are led to also believe in evolution, compromise God's word and creative genius to sell out to the opposition. I won't do that.
There is no need.
I wonder what you'll do if you find yourself facing Allah or Thor, when you die. Then you'll be in the same boat as atheists.Sorry, I don't intentionally set out to be snarky, but sometimes it just sneaks out when I'm not looking.....
You know that the Bible tells us about just such a conspiracy.....
There is a powerful entity whose influence is felt in this world without most people even being aware of it.
The world as it is today, with all of our technology and advancements, is degenerating into a cess pit of unrelenting violence, unimaginable cruelty and disgusting immorality, in an age where we should expect to see advancements in knowledge, intellectual appreciation and greater understanding of human behavior. Even my own unbelieving mother says 'its like some evil force is controlling the world'.
More and more people are feeling this way.....we know that because we talk to them every day in our evangelizing work.
The apostle John describes this "evil force" ....."We know that we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one." (1 John 5:19) This entity has the power to "blind minds" (2 Corinthians 4:3-4)....which means that the center that processes all information gathered by the senses is essentially disabled, no matter how intelligent a person purports to be. That explains why there is such a general acceptance of something so 'godless' when there is no real solid, verifiable evidence to support it.
It is sold to those who have sold out to 'the world'....the one Jesus told us to be "no part" of. (John 15:19)
And that is what I have said all along Metis.....science has no more scientifically verifiable "evidence" than we do.
If you tell the real truth, there is "None. Nada. Nyet" in anything science presents to suggest a continuous chain of descent in all the creatures who have ever lived on this earth. All they have is supposition linking species to one another over millions of years. Is this "objective"? Or is evidence interpreted to agree with a pre-conceived idea? They can suggest that 'microbes evolved into dinosaurs' over millions of years, but how can anyone say that that is more believable than an Intelligent Creator? Science has no more "proof" of that being the case, than we can prove the existence of an all powerful Creator.
Its all around you....open your eyes. Use your senses to see what God has beautifully designed.
If biomimetics is the science that tries to copy the marvelous designs in nature and it takes trained scientific brains to work out how to imitate nature...how come the original design needed no intelligence to create them in the first place?
The change you see is confined to within a species. Adaptation continues to this day. But science has never once seen one species transition into another completely different kind of creature altogether. That is where evidence ends and fantasy begins.
If you are going to argue from the Biblical aspect, then at least argue from what the Bible actually says.....it tells us exactly why we do not enjoy the perfection that our bodies suggest is possible. Why would you see miscarriage as a punishment? "Sin" simply means to be imperfect. We see evidence of that imperfection every day.
If Jesus said that "not even a bird falls to the ground without his Father's knowledge", how much more concerned is he with the death of a human....even an unborn human?
The potential for humans to keep living without aging or death is high on the agenda of many scientists. The "fountain of youth" is still as eagerly sought today as it ever was, though through different avenues. No one wants to die if they have a good quality of life. Science cannot explain why we die....they can tell us how, but not why the process of cell renewal fails to keep going. Theoretically it should last indefinitely.
Pain, suffering and death were never supposed to enter the realm of human experience but they did when humans walked away from their Creator....all are completely foreign and unacceptable to us. The Revelation tells us that all those things will be abolished under the rule of God's Kingdom. (Revelation 21:2-5) That is a hope I cherish.
We only have to consider the talents of servants to understand that a pocket of pure genius can exist in human brains. An extraordinary capability is demonstrated in art, music or mathematics to an almost unimaginable degree......this is what humankind were meant to manifest....abilities that reflect the perfection achieved by the Creator in all that he does. We lost it in Eden, but we are promised that we will get it back...not in heaven, but right here on earth where the Creator put us in the first place.
A spiritual "leaning" is programmed into all of us. But like a muscle, if spirituality is not fed or fostered, it will be overtaken by selfish pursuits and the latest 'leanings' of the world's fads and fashions. Evolution is a 'new kid on the block' relatively speaking.
I sympathize with your position because we should all be able to rest our hopes on something solid. It is unsettling to feel like you are in limbo, so to speak, unable to come to solid conclusions about these things.
If this life is all there is, then what is the point of our existence? Animals are blissfully ignorant about their future as they live only in the moment.....we do not have that capacity....we alone can process concepts that animals simply do not have. We can consciously understand and calculate time....a past, present and future. We can use the past and the present knowledge that we have gained to plan our future. We alone have a consciousness of our own demise and the possible loss of loved ones. It causes us great distress. It feels entirely wrong...and the Bible explains why. What does evolution explain? Nothing.
In a world ruled by the devil, nothing is as it seems. His MO is deception and he is an expert at it. How many people know when they are being conned by an expert? Only when things end badly. How does the Bible explain that end? Now compare that with what evolution explains as that end......who do you hope is right? What will the majority choose if it means that they are nothing more than animals and can behave like them with no higher power to answer to? (Matthew 7:13-14)
Thank you Metis.....I know you find people like me frustrating....but you will never wear me down. I know what I believe and why I believe it. I know what foundation evolution is built on and I believe that it will collapse in a big way in the not too distant future.....but that is just my belief. We are all free to believe whatever we wish.....we just have the capacity to contemplate what will happen if our faith is misplaced.Evolutionists have way more to lose than we do.
There are thousands of gods that have been worshiped and discarded throughout history. There are thousands more that people worship today. Maybe one of the exists Or some of them. Or none of them. Maybe there's something out there that we haven't even imagined yet. Who knows. What I do know, is that Pascal's wager is BS.
That the flu vaccine this year will be inefectve next year because the viruses evolve. Bacteria evolve. Everything evolves and this is just one example. One that is palpable and objectively viewed.
You keep saying these sorts of things, but they are just your claims based on nothing, nada! You have yet to provide an iota of evidence, just lots of muttering and hand waving.
Since that would require that every skeleton of every link in the chain, that is to say every single generation, be fossilized and preserved and found and prepared and stored it is an impossible (and unnecessary) requirement. All you need do, actually, to meet your specification is to understand the significance of ring species, which you clearly do not.
Really? The power of suggestion....
So this is a reasonable response? You sound like a three year old chucking a tanny.
I would call it "blind faith" or "wishful thinking".
