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Just for the brave among us -- analyze a Trump speech.

Pogo

Well-Known Member
I'm sure that isn't my point. We live in a dangerous world. This is my point, specifically.

My wife was born and grew up in East LA of Scots Irish ancestry that came from Oklahoma during the dust-bowl but you don't know what Springsteen's song was about let alone what Cheech is singing about.

Bruce Springsteen's 1984 song "Born in the U.S.A." is a protest song that addresses the mistreatment of Vietnam veterans and the economic hardships they faced after returning home. The song's lyrics and subject matter are clear, but the song's upbeat chorus and Springsteen's proud delivery can make it seem like an uncomplicated celebration of patriotism.

I suggest you quit digging before you start insulting my WWII German refugee mother and my brother's Vietnamese refugee wife let alone his children. China isn't that far away from where you are now.
Just saying.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Some were stated to be rapists, others were stated to be rapists and torturers, others still were stated to be rapists, torturers, and murders, and each crime I'm sure also separated between them as single-crimes committed, individually. To be cautious means to be careful. This is already warranted in today's world.

The statements made in the speech, places more urgency in that suggestion ... to be cautious and careful, whether you are an immigrant, a citizen, or a government employee; it's a generalized concern for everyone and this is what I was implying. This is due to our global threats reaching our soil, so take it for what it's worth. It's entirely up to you.
And if you believe that BS that Trump is spewing you are exactly the sort of fool he is instigating. Just wait till he starts on about the homeless.
 

Balthazzar

N. Germanic Descent
My wife was born and grew up in East LA of Scots Irish ancestry that came from Oklahoma during the dust-bowl but you don't know what Springsteen's song was about let alone what Cheech is singing about.

Bruce Springsteen's 1984 song "Born in the U.S.A." is a protest song that addresses the mistreatment of Vietnam veterans and the economic hardships they faced after returning home. The song's lyrics and subject matter are clear, but the song's upbeat chorus and Springsteen's proud delivery can make it seem like an uncomplicated celebration of patriotism.

I suggest you quit digging before you start insulting my WWII German refugee mother and my brother's Vietnamese refugee wife let alone his children. China isn't that far away from where you are now.
Just saying.

To be cautious as citizens or not to be cautious as citizens? To be cautious as immigrants or not to be cautious as immigrants? To be cautious as government employee's or not to be cautious as government employees? To be cautious as people or not to be cautious as people?

What is your contention, exactly with this premise?
 

Balthazzar

N. Germanic Descent
And if you believe that BS that Trump is spewing you are exactly the sort of fool he is instigating. Just wait till he starts on about the homeless.
I'm homeless myself. I am required to take caution. I'm also a journalist and a photographer, but I really don't have the credentials so that doesn't truly matter. I'm also the type of fool who would choose the title fool, standing on my concern in contrast to your own.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
I'm homeless myself. I am required to take caution. I'm also a journalist and a photographer, but I really don't have the credentials so that doesn't truly matter. I'm also the type of fool who would choose the title fool, standing on my concern in contrast to your own.
And are you dangerous because you are homeless? Not necessarily but Trump is more than happy to call all homeless people murderers and rapists because like immigrants, they are easily characterized as others. As been pointed out and demonstrated the class of people that he calls immigrants are actually less likely to commit violent crimes than our native population, yet he claims they are far worse inspiring violence against them as you have no doubt run into people who assume you are dangerous just because you are homeless.
 

Balthazzar

N. Germanic Descent
And are you dangerous because you are homeless? Not necessarily but Trump is more than happy to call all homeless people murderers and rapists because like immigrants, they are easily characterized as others. As been pointed out and demonstrated the class of people that he calls immigrants are actually less likely to commit violent crimes than our native population, yet he claims they are far worse inspiring violence against them as you have no doubt run into people who assume you are dangerous just because you are homeless.

Of course, and it is because of the condition of our world, the accusations, some warranted others not, that I employ a security necessary and proceed with caution mentality. I envision or i have envisioned how I must have appeared in times past when living on the streets. A leper maybe, or maybe unapproachable, due to the angry countenance derived from my unable to avoid situation. In any case, I am an outcasted man who is so motivated with enough resolve to continue efforting myself to the needs at hand as an individual and being part of our communities, regardless of the perceived-out casting from normal citizenship. The resources have been very welcomed, and given my chosen vocation, it seems appropriate to pursue the effort...Journalism/photography, specifically.
 
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