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Just for the brave among us -- analyze a Trump speech.

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
This speech was given Prairie du Chien, WI, population 5,399 on September 28. (Very early, Trump claims that outside the small hall in which he was speaking there were 40,000 - 50,000 people lined up, who were by now "probably walking home." Gotta wonder how the heck far they have to walk -- there aren't enough houses within 50 miles to hold them all!)

What I would really like -- which we all know will not happen -- is for Trump supporters to listen carefully, and tell us what they really like about the Donald Trump revealed herein. Tell us what gives you such confidence that this is the person who will solve all of America's problems. Tell us, when he says at 28:30 "I stand before you to make this promise: I will liberate Wisconsin from this Mass migrant invasion of murderers rapists, hoodlums drug dealers, thugs and vicious gang members."

This speech should frighten every American out of their wits. Who among us will try to say he is doing nothing but trying to do exactly that -- frighten you all out of your wits against an "enemy" that he is mostly inventing for the purpose?

I wonder who will have the gumption to take my challenge.
 
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Pogo

Well-Known Member
This speech was given Prairie du Chien, WI, population 5,399 on September 28. (Very early, Trump claims that outside the small hall in which he was speaking there were 40,000 - 50,000 people lined up, who were by now "probably walking home." Gotta wonder how the heck far they have to walk -- there aren't enough houses within 50 miles to hold them all!)

What I would really like -- which we all know will not happen -- is for Trump supporters to listen carefully, and tell us what they really like about the Donald Trump revealed herein. Tell us what gives you such confidence that this is the person who will solve all of America's problems. Tell us, when he says at 28:30 "I stand before you to make this promise: I will liberate Wisconsin from this Mass migrant invasion of murderers rapists, hoodlums drug dealers, thugs and vicious gang members."

This speech should frighten every American out of their wits. Who among us will try to say he is doing nothing but trying to do exactly that -- frighten you all out of your wits against an "enemy" that he is mostly inventing for the purpose?

I wonder who will have the gumption to take my challenge.

Never mind wrong wisconsin speech transcription.

should be up soon.
 
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Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Well, I have to confess, I was quite right that our Trump supporters would ignore this altogether, because of course it is totally unanswerable while maintaining some sense of voting intelligently.

So, yesterday, in Erie PA, Trump at one point showed a video (to his small audience) of a huge, cheering crowd at a football game and claimed (hee hee!) that the crowd was cheering for him! I mean, really...:facepalm::shrug:
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
And while everybody is ignoring all of this, I tell you from the bottom of my heart -- what Donald Trump and JD Vance are doing is ramping up the racial divide in America to levels that haven't been seen for decades -- and they are going to bring you to grief.

And Trump's followers can not (or perhaps will not) see it. They are going to give you an America that you are not going to like, and I am not overstating it.

Watch the videos!
 

Balthazzar

N. Germanic Descent
This speech was given Prairie du Chien, WI, population 5,399 on September 28. (Very early, Trump claims that outside the small hall in which he was speaking there were 40,000 - 50,000 people lined up, who were by now "probably walking home." Gotta wonder how the heck far they have to walk -- there aren't enough houses within 50 miles to hold them all!)

What I would really like -- which we all know will not happen -- is for Trump supporters to listen carefully, and tell us what they really like about the Donald Trump revealed herein. Tell us what gives you such confidence that this is the person who will solve all of America's problems. Tell us, when he says at 28:30 "I stand before you to make this promise: I will liberate Wisconsin from this Mass migrant invasion of murderers rapists, hoodlums drug dealers, thugs and vicious gang members."

This speech should frighten every American out of their wits. Who among us will try to say he is doing nothing but trying to do exactly that -- frighten you all out of your wits against an "enemy" that he is mostly inventing for the purpose?

I wonder who will have the gumption to take my challenge

From what I noted after watching, the concern is the alleged 600,000 criminals who were sent out of their country (apparently) for that reason, 400,000 of which were suggested to be very violent criminals, and 13,000 of which were stated to have been murderers. The concern, naturally, is that this endangers our communities, including the residents of WI. Non legal (fugitives) with violent criminal records, including rape, murder, human trafficking, etc. entering our communities.


Who, in their right mind would be ok with this? Who would be ok with an escaped prisoner charged with rape, or murder, or a violent crime believed to be running around your own community, or not be on guard? Or an Amber alert in your specific location? 600,000 of these types are alleged to have been sent here because of these types of crimes. Somehow, I'm not ok with this. Two assassination attempts in less than 4 months and I will presume this has a thing to do with some of them. Chopo, if I'm not mistaken is part of this dynamic. If I recall correctly, his criminal empire and the violent nature of that particular cartel is what motivated the removal of his leadership, and likewise the migration of many of our longer standing illegal immigrants in this nation.


When people are in danger, they typically make choices like these in hope of minimizing the threat they are under. 600,000 illegal immigrants charged with no less than an extremely violent crime have entered into our country. Not only does this endanger US citizens, but also our longer standing pool of immigrants who fled from these people.


I would suggest that we consider at the very least this much, whether we intend to vote or not. The issue is: Not all white people are criminals, nor all black people, nor are all Mexicans, etc. Caution is typically suggested, but in this day and age, I would sincerely acknowledge the need.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
This speech was given Prairie du Chien, WI, population 5,399 on September 28. (Very early, Trump claims that outside the small hall in which he was speaking there were 40,000 - 50,000 people lined up, who were by now "probably walking home." Gotta wonder how the heck far they have to walk -- there aren't enough houses within 50 miles to hold them all!)

What I would really like -- which we all know will not happen -- is for Trump supporters to listen carefully, and tell us what they really like about the Donald Trump revealed herein. Tell us what gives you such confidence that this is the person who will solve all of America's problems. Tell us, when he says at 28:30 "I stand before you to make this promise: I will liberate Wisconsin from this Mass migrant invasion of murderers rapists, hoodlums drug dealers, thugs and vicious gang members."

This speech should frighten every American out of their wits. Who among us will try to say he is doing nothing but trying to do exactly that -- frighten you all out of your wits against an "enemy" that he is mostly inventing for the purpose?

I wonder who will have the gumption to take my challenge.
On my mobile the video did not show any time-run.
However, I loved the part where Trump says that '....many countries take all their murderers, rapists, paedophiles (etc etc) and bring them here.......... '!!!

No further comment necessary.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
From what I noted after watching, the concern is the alleged 600,000 criminals who were sent out of their country (apparently) for that reason, 400,000 of which were suggested to be very violent criminals, and 13,000 of which were stated to have been murderers. The concern, naturally, is that this endangers our communities, including the residents of WI. Non legal (fugitives) with violent criminal records, including rape, murder, human trafficking, etc. entering our communities.


Who, in their right mind would be ok with this? Who would be ok with an escaped prisoner charged with rape, or murder, or a violent crime believed to be running around your own community, or not be on guard? Or an Amber alert in your specific location? 600,000 of these types are alleged to have been sent here because of these types of crimes. Somehow, I'm not ok with this. Two assassination attempts in less than 4 months and I will presume this has a thing to do with some of them. Chopo, if I'm not mistaken is part of this dynamic. If I recall correctly, his criminal empire and the violent nature of that particular cartel is what motivated the removal of his leadership, and likewise the migration of many of our longer standing illegal immigrants in this nation.


When people are in danger, they typically make choices like these in hope of minimizing the threat they are under. 600,000 illegal immigrants charged with no less than an extremely violent crime have entered into our country. Not only does this endanger US citizens, but also our longer standing pool of immigrants who fled from these people.


I would suggest that we consider at the very least this much, whether we intend to vote or not. The issue is: Not all white people are criminals, nor all black people, nor are all Mexicans, etc. Caution is typically suggested, but in this day and age, I would sincerely acknowledge the need.
So Trump pronounces numbers, says they have been "sent" out of their countries -- and you accept him at his word? You mention two assassination attempts, and " presume this has a thing to do with some of them?" Um, since we know who the two would-be assassins are -- and they are Americans, born and bred in the U.S., do you think perhaps your "presumption" is just a bit naive?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
This is bad advice given to Trump, apparently. Or he is suffering from mental decline, and he's not aware that he's sinking in the polls.
I know the left wing likes to keep saying that he's losing in the polls, and truly intended to discourage people which isn't working.

Trump is pretty damn strong and it definitely shows.

But of course the fat lady will sing on Election Day.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Alleged. By a known compulsive liar. Who has an agenda to make you panic, and vote emotionally instead of rationally.
He is a cult leader who threatens you with hell if you don't believe.
USA, home of the cowards.
Irony.
 

Balthazzar

N. Germanic Descent
So Trump pronounces numbers, says they have been "sent" out of their countries -- and you accept him at his word? You mention two assassination attempts, and " presume this has a thing to do with some of them?" Um, since we know who the two would-be assassins are -- and they are Americans, born and bred in the U.S., do you think perhaps your "presumption" is just a bit naive?

I think it's always hearsay, rhetoric, and political propaganda and that the gist is for us to take caution. We're living in dangerous times... I did suggest that we do so no matter if we are voting or not. You asked for comment. I did. Would you like to address the presumptions made in the speech or do you prefer to discard them as being irrelevant based on who presented the information?
 

Balthazzar

N. Germanic Descent
Alleged. By a known compulsive liar. Who has an agenda to make you panic, and vote emotionally instead of rationally.
He is a cult leader who threatens you with hell if you don't believe.
USA, home of the cowards.

Rationality would dictate that this nation is heading for war, that our boarders have been flood gates for potential enemies and that we have fallen asleep as a people, being so accepting of other people that we sometimes choose to be ok with endangering our own.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
I know the left wing likes to keep saying that he's losing in the polls,
That's honesty for you. Is the right wing telling you Trump is way ahead in the polls?
and truly intended to discourage people which isn't working.
The right wing is delusional based on the rhetoric we are reading from them. The right wing media must be broadcasting more absurd disinformation as Trump gets more desperate and inflamatory. The criminal candidate suggested the police have one day of violence against shoplifters, and by allowing his suspension of civil rights he predicts crime will disappear. But he gets away with his crimes.
Trump is pretty damn strong and it definitely shows.
I don't see any strength at all. I see an insecure man who is facing prison if he's not elected. He lies constantly, which isn't what a strong man has to do. Strong people have integrity, ethics, and will be accountable for mistakes. That isn't Trump in any way.

Your attitude illustrates how successful Trump has been to manipulate the weakness and fear in conservatives.-0odc
But of course the fat lady will sing on Election Day.
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
From what I noted after watching, the concern is the alleged 600,000 criminals who were sent out of their country (apparently) for that reason, 400,000 of which were suggested to be very violent criminals, and 13,000 of which were stated to have been murderers. The concern, naturally, is that this endangers our communities, including the residents of WI. Non legal (fugitives) with violent criminal records, including rape, murder, human trafficking, etc. entering our communities.


Who, in their right mind would be ok with this? Who would be ok with an escaped prisoner charged with rape, or murder, or a violent crime believed to be running around your own community, or not be on guard? Or an Amber alert in your specific location? 600,000 of these types are alleged to have been sent here because of these types of crimes. Somehow, I'm not ok with this. Two assassination attempts in less than 4 months and I will presume this has a thing to do with some of them. Chopo, if I'm not mistaken is part of this dynamic. If I recall correctly, his criminal empire and the violent nature of that particular cartel is what motivated the removal of his leadership, and likewise the migration of many of our longer standing illegal immigrants in this nation.


When people are in danger, they typically make choices like these in hope of minimizing the threat they are under. 600,000 illegal immigrants charged with no less than an extremely violent crime have entered into our country. Not only does this endanger US citizens, but also our longer standing pool of immigrants who fled from these people.


I would suggest that we consider at the very least this much, whether we intend to vote or not. The issue is: Not all white people are criminals, nor all black people, nor are all Mexicans, etc. Caution is typically suggested, but in this day and age, I would sincerely acknowledge the need.

Why did Trump torpedo the border bill then if this is such a dire threat to the country? Why did he allow immigrants in during his administration, many of them from Haiti?
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
This speech was given Prairie du Chien, WI, population 5,399 on September 28. (Very early, Trump claims that outside the small hall in which he was speaking there were 40,000 - 50,000 people lined up, who were by now "probably walking home." Gotta wonder how the heck far they have to walk -- there aren't enough houses within 50 miles to hold them all!)

What I would really like -- which we all know will not happen -- is for Trump supporters to listen carefully, and tell us what they really like about the Donald Trump revealed herein. Tell us what gives you such confidence that this is the person who will solve all of America's problems. Tell us, when he says at 28:30 "I stand before you to make this promise: I will liberate Wisconsin from this Mass migrant invasion of murderers rapists, hoodlums drug dealers, thugs and vicious gang members."

This speech should frighten every American out of their wits. Who among us will try to say he is doing nothing but trying to do exactly that -- frighten you all out of your wits against an "enemy" that he is mostly inventing for the purpose?

I wonder who will have the gumption to take my challenge.
I have recommended Trump supporters watch any of his videos. They won't. I guess they don't want to know who is behind the curtain.
 

Bear Wild

Well-Known Member
This speech was given Prairie du Chien, WI, population 5,399 on September 28. (Very early, Trump claims that outside the small hall in which he was speaking there were 40,000 - 50,000 people lined up, who were by now "probably walking home." Gotta wonder how the heck far they have to walk -- there aren't enough houses within 50 miles to hold them all!)

What I would really like -- which we all know will not happen -- is for Trump supporters to listen carefully, and tell us what they really like about the Donald Trump revealed herein. Tell us what gives you such confidence that this is the person who will solve all of America's problems. Tell us, when he says at 28:30 "I stand before you to make this promise: I will liberate Wisconsin from this Mass migrant invasion of murderers rapists, hoodlums drug dealers, thugs and vicious gang members."

This speech should frighten every American out of their wits. Who among us will try to say he is doing nothing but trying to do exactly that -- frighten you all out of your wits against an "enemy" that he is mostly inventing for the purpose?

I wonder who will have the gumption to take my challenge.
His speeches terrify half of the people in the US. They terrify me. A good friend of mine loves trump and hates vance but will still vote for trump. She excuses everything he says because she "knows" that he is just a bad speaker and he really cares for everyone and will be best for the us. There is something more complex going one at this time which we do not fully understand. Trump can say things that would be completely unacceptable from any other candidate whether republican or democrat. Vance gets away with it only because he is running with Trump. Trumps family are all warning us but only half the nation listens. What I determine is that no one actually sees trump or hears trump but rather have created him into a fictitious hero fighting evil. In shot he has become a superhero to his followers. Unfortunately reality will set in if he is elected.
 
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