Justin Bieber doesn't like Gays

[Jacksnyte]

Then why is the very name of this thread "Justin Bieber doesn't like Gays"? Never once did he say such a thing. You seemed to criticize him for an opinion that he doesn't even hold and then admonish him as a "role model". Besides, no media form I have seen has come out and said that anyone should hold Bieber as some role model. People decide who they consider a role model for themselves, not the media.

Actually, the public's pop stars are usually made popular by heavy rotation. People who are into disposable culture tend to buy what they are made familiar with. If Bieber's backers didn't pay to put him in heavy rotation, no one would have ever heard of him. Let's face it, the majority of the public are content to remain "sheeple". They prefer to follow whatever trends these industries tell them are "the latest thing".

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Actually, upon finding out what Bieber really said sounds to me like he's a pretty tolerant and accepting kid. So what he used the word "decision"? He said it doesn't affect him and shouldn't affect anyone else. Appears that whether he believes orientation is a choice thing or not he's promoting tolerance. Now how in the world could that be a bad thing for a "role model" to do?

Yeah - I think people are jumping on him a bit prematurely. Here's the quote:

When asked what his views on homosexuality are, Bieber responded: “It’s everyone’s own decision to do that. It doesn’t affect me and shouldn’t affect anyone else.”

He's a 16-year-old kid being asked his opinions by a Rolling Stone reporter on some tough issues. These isolated quotes that people are jumping on may be a result of him struggling to get his thoughts out more than a reflection of his actual views.

I saw another article last week about the part of the interview where he talks about abortion in the case of rape. The quote that was pulled out was something like "everything happens for a reason", and it was spun as if he was saying that rape victims were "destined" to be raped. However, when you look at the larger context of the quote, the message was more that he doesn't see what the purpose of rape could be, but at the same time he believes that God has a plan for humanity, and he's struggling to reconcile these two concepts.

Without seeing the whole interview, I wonder whether that might be what's happening here. I could see something like the quote in the OP's article coming from a kid who meant to say something like "people should be free to do what they want as long as they're not affecting others."

I guess this is my way of saying that the jury's still out in my books.

 

[Alceste]

Revoltingist what worries me more, Bieber aside, is that the movie industry has a knack for choosing teens with conservative Christian leanings to be the role models of our children

Look how well that worked out with Britney Spears.

 

[Alceste]

I just want to know exactly when he chose to be straight, and how long he took to make the decision.

Looks to me like he's still deciding. Lol.

 

[Alceste]

Besides I did point out several times that this thread isn't necessarily about just Bieber. It's about the conservative role models the media picks for children

Saying "other people's sex lives are none of my business" isn't all that conservative, to be honest.

 

[YmirGF]

Saying "other people's sex lives are none of my business" isn't all that conservative, to be honest.

I'm trying to understand how insecure someone has to be to get excited about what some 16 yo kid says. Like, seriously. This thread almost has a Glenn Beck conspiracy twinge to it.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'm trying to understand how insecure someone has to be to get excited about what some 16 yo kid says. Like, seriously. This thread almost has a Glenn Beck conspiracy twinge to it.

Isn't it obvious? Justin Bieber is one of the leading intellectuals of our age.

 

[no-body]

The kid is 17 years old, people should be criticizing whatever ******* thought it would be a brilliant idea to ask a teenager what their opinions are and quote them. I guarantee my opinions would have been just as retarded and so would yours at that age.

Anyways we should wait a couple of years so we can find either that he is gay himself or watch him go down the tubes with all the other celebrity teens towards drug fueled anonymity.

(Hey guys remember Tiffany, New Kids on the block and Rico Suave and what they thought?)

 

[tomato1236]

I think it's pretty lame that the OP is entitled "Justin Bieber doesn't like gays" when he never said anything like that. And then the article it's linked to says "Justin Bieber says being gay is a choice" when what he really said was that it's people's decision to do what they want to do. It doesn't affect me and it shouldn't affect anybody else. Sounds to me like he's pretty open to allowing people to do what they want, and never said anything about not liking anyone for anything.

 

[Magic Man]

I think it's pretty lame that the OP is entitled "Justin Bieber doesn't like gays" when he never said anything like that. And then the article it's linked to says "Justin Bieber says being gay is a choice" when what he really said was that it's people's decision to do what they want to do. It doesn't affect me and it shouldn't affect anybody else. Sounds to me like he's pretty open to allowing people to do what they want, and never said anything about not liking anyone for anything.

Fully agreed.

 

[SaintMalachi]

I can see how parents might be concerned while I don't think being gay is a choice I do feel that abortion is wrong. However I while I would never allow myself to be influenced by an idol I can see younger generations being influenced by this.

 

[Oneatatime]

The negative reaction to him saying that homosexuality is a choice has been conditioned into many people because that comment is normally its followed by the claim that homosexuality is an immoral choice and that homosexuals should change their orientation to heterosexuality in order to be moral people. Its unfair to judge him on something he didn't say and his Christian background doesn't mean he's homophobic either.

If in doubt its better to give someone the benefit of the doubt until they have clarified their position instead of jumping to the worse conclusion available

 

[Penumbra]

Taken from: Justin Bieber: being gay is a decision and abortion is wrong - PinkNews.co.uk

So what do you make of this? Should parents let their children be influenced by someone like this?

More importantly, you're way overreacting.
-One, I don't see the need to censor children from everything.
-Two, he didn't say he hates gays or doesn't like gays in this article.

It's really dishonest to completely exaggerate the words of someone and claim that they said something they did not.

From the article:
When asked what his views on homosexuality are, Bieber responded: “It’s everyone’s own decision to do that. It doesn’t affect me and shouldn’t affect anyone else.”
It is not clear whether he intended to label homosexuality as a lifestyle choice.

The article even says its unclear. If anything, the kid just gave a canned answer to avoid debate. At worst, he's ignorant and does think people choose to be gay, which doesn't necessarily lead to hating gays. At best, he worded his statement poorly, and meant that each person has the choice to do what they want and have sex with who they want (as having sex, gay or straight, is a choice). He basically just pointed out it's none of his business.

 

[Quagmire]

Agree with all of this:

Then why is the very name of this thread "Justin Bieber doesn't like Gays"? Never once did he say such a thing. .

Then why don't you blame those who label it as perverse instead of those who are actually practicing tolerance?

Yeah - I think people are jumping on him a bit prematurely. Here's the quote:

I think it's pretty lame that the OP is entitled "Justin Bieber doesn't like gays" when he never said anything like that.

Yeah. This is what he is being vilified for: "When asked what his views on homosexuality are, Bieber responded: “It’s everyone’s own decision to do that. It doesn’t affect me and shouldn’t affect anyone else.”
This thread is ridiculous.

First, you haven't shown that he hates gays. He said that they chose to be gay. That does not equal hating gays.

Erm...From the quote, he didn't say he doesn't like gays. He simply said he believes it is a matter of choice.

Especially this:

More importantly, you're way overreacting.
-One, I don't see the need to censor children from everything.
-Two, he didn't say he hates gays or doesn't like gays in this article.

It's really dishonest to completely exaggerate the words of someone and claim that they said something they did not.

And I'm back to wondering if RF might not benefit from a sub-forum especially for these kinds of threads.

We could call it "The Preaching, Proselytizing, and Propaganda DIR".

 

[BeckyRose1998]

T.T no, he NEVER said that...they lied...believe a Belieber like me

 

[Rainbow Mage]

I admit I might have over reacted, but the article makes it sound like he said that at first glance. He did sort of infer that it was a choice with his wording. Hey, I'm not worried about it. Yeah the thread title was probably a bad choice.

 

[Apex]

He did sort of infer that it was a choice with his wording.

And there is nothing wrong with that so long as he does not care what homosexuals do.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Okay Apex, I suppose that's harmless enough. However, I just thought of another disturbing element behind all this, homosexuality aside. The article also says, and this quite clearly, that he doesn't support abortion, even in the case of rape.

 

[waitasec]

More importantly, you're way overreacting.
-One, I don't see the need to censor children from everything.
-Two, he didn't say he hates gays or doesn't like gays in this article.

It's really dishonest to completely exaggerate the words of someone and claim that they said something they did not.

From the article:
When asked what his views on homosexuality are, Bieber responded: “It’s everyone’s own decision to do that. It doesn’t affect me and shouldn’t affect anyone else.”
It is not clear whether he intended to label homosexuality as a lifestyle choice.

The article even says its unclear. If anything, the kid just gave a canned answer to avoid debate. At worst, he's ignorant and does think people choose to be gay, which doesn't necessarily lead to hating gays. At best, he worded his statement poorly, and meant that each person has the choice to do what they want and have sex with who they want (as having sex, gay or straight, is a choice). He basically just pointed out it's none of his business.

i agree.
leave the kid alone....

 

[Rainbow Mage]

i agree.
leave the kid alone....

I'll leave the kid alone. Just refer me to the ones who market children in the first place, because to me that is also wrong. Exposing kids to something like that when at times even a full grown adult can't take it