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Kamala Fights for Us!

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Hyperbole and a link to WiKipedia. That was feeble even for you.

And intellectual dishonesty is yours but you're not willing to even admit you could be wrong. I provided the evidence that you were wrong, and yet the only thing you could do is to respond with the utterly childish response like the above. So pathetic.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
As you noted Harris has been the one trying to gin up this talking point and meme. What is funny is that it is so phony. Harris comes from an affluent family. Her father was a tenured professor, who based his own writings on Karl Marx. Kamala grew up in an affluent neighborhood in Montreal and went to an Ivy league university.

She has often made the claim that she worked at McDonalds. But the only evidence provided has been her own claim, despite many independent investigators trying to find evidence. For example snoops.com looked into the claim and found it "Unproven" stating, "Harris has made this claim repeatedly over the years, and multiple reputable news outlets have reported on the story. But, aside from Harris' testimony itself, there is no evidence (such as a photo, employment record or confirmation from a friend or family member) to independently verify the claim." Harris Claims She Had a Job at McDonald's While at College. Here's What We Found

Harris has credibility issues.
I've worked many summer jobs.
It would be impossible to verify most of them.
Names fade. Businesses close. Records are purged.
A claim to have worked at McDonald's has no significance
unless it's shown that she lied. By your own admissions,
that's not been shown.

Is this the kind of thing that is important in your decision
whom to vote for? Should Trump's bone spurs be given
the same scrutiny? His claims of innocence regarding
the many accusations of sexually assaulting women?
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I've worked many summer jobs.
It would be impossible to verify most of them.
Names fade. Businesses close. Records are purged.
A claim to have worked at McDonald's has no significance
unless it's shown that she lied. By your own admissions,
that's not been shown.

Is this the kind of thing that is important in your decision
whom to vote for? Should Trump's bone spurs be given
the same scrutiny? His claims of innocence regarding
the many accusations of sexually assaulting women?
McDonalds has records for every employee is has ever employed. Yet it has no record of Harris having worked there as reported by multiple investigators. Despite repeated requests Harris has never provided any documentary proof of her claim to have worked at McDonalds. Nor has she attempted to rely on your flimsy rationale of the records being lost. She simply provides no rebuttal to the lack of documentation question. If Harris is willing to repeatedly make an unsubstantiated, plausibly false, claim, that calls her honesty into question. Such dishonesty is a consideration for her qualification to be President. It matters.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
McDonalds has records for every employee is has ever employed.
Are you claiming that the franchisor has such records
for every franchisee throughout the company's history?
Yet it has no record of Harris having worked there as reported by multiple investigators. Despite repeated requests Harris has never provided any documentary proof of her claim to have worked at McDonalds. Nor has she attempted to rely on your flimsy rationale of the records being lost.
It's not my "rationale". It's my experience in business
that records are purged after a period of time because
they become useless, & it costs money to keep them.
I don't save lease records over a decade old. I don't
have any employee records anymore.
If you'd ever run a business, you'd know.
She simply provides no rebuttal to the lack of documentation question. If Harris is willing to repeatedly make an unsubstantiated, plausibly false, claim, that calls her honesty into question. Such dishonesty is a consideration for her qualification to be President. It matters.
If dishonesty is a disqualifier, why don't
you apply this standard to Trump?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I keep seeing Harris' campaign ads with people talking about how Trump fights for rich people and Kamala fights for us.

Team Trump plays an out of context video with Kamala talking about bread being up 50% and beef being up almost 50%.

Is being president about fighting? Fighting what? None of these ads address what the 'fight' is.

My disappointment in the candidates and their campaigns may lead me to write in Floyd Mayweather, since he has more fighting experience than both frontrunners.

How about you jack***es stop finger-pointing and talk about working together to fix what's broken? Until you do, neither one of you have my vote.

Well I do agree with Senator Kennedy's comments to the effect that one's beliefs are through actions, and the rest is just cottage cheese.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
McDonalds has records for every employee is has ever employed. Yet it has no record of Harris having worked there as reported by multiple investigators. Despite repeated requests Harris has never provided any documentary proof of her claim to have worked at McDonalds. Nor has she attempted to rely on your flimsy rationale of the records being lost. She simply provides no rebuttal to the lack of documentation question. If Harris is willing to repeatedly make an unsubstantiated, plausibly false, claim, that calls her honesty into question. Such dishonesty is a consideration for her qualification to be President. It matters.
One thing for sure, Harris is definitely not middle class as she claims. It's been said that she comes from a family of plantation owners who had owned slaves.

Harris is said to be a descendant of an Irish slave owner in Jamaica. There's a lot of wealth associated with her ancestry if those accounts are true.

 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
One thing for sure, Harris is definitely not middle class as she claims. It's been said that she comes from a family of plantation owners who had owned slaves.

Harris is said to be a descendant of an Irish slave owner in Jamaica. There's a lot of wealth associated with her ancestry if those accounts are true.

Are you really this ignorant about slave owners knocking up their slaves and never considering them family. Yes she has less than full African coloring because the master raped one of his female slaves. And yes they often sometimes took the masters names. That does not mean they had upper-class backgrounds, they were slaves and servants.:facepalm:
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
McDonalds has records for every employee is has ever employed. Yet it has no record of Harris having worked there as reported by multiple investigators.
This is false. I don't know who your "multiple investigators" are, but here is the truth: "McDonald's has not made any statement about whether Harris worked at the restaurant."

But an interesting little factoid for you: approximately 1 in every 8 Americans has, at one time or another, worked under the Golden Arches. So really, it wouldn't be much of a surprise at all, now, would it?
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
This is false. I don't know who your "multiple investigators" are, but here is the truth: "McDonald's has not made any statement about whether Harris worked at the restaurant."
I have previously provided a link to snopes.com which list such investigators. Examples of evidence would be employment documents, testimony of former coworkers or supervisors, employee artifacts or momentos, or photographs. Harris has produced none of these. It is only her testimony she has provided. As snopes.com put it this claim is "unproven".
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
One thing for sure, Harris is definitely not middle class as she claims. It's been said that she comes from a family of plantation owners who had owned slaves.

Harris is said to be a descendant of an Irish slave owner in Jamaica. There's a lot of wealth associated with her ancestry if those accounts are true.

She grew up with her mother, not with her father.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
McDonalds has records for every employee is has ever employed. Yet it has no record of Harris having worked there as reported by multiple investigators. Despite repeated requests Harris has never provided any documentary proof of her claim to have worked at McDonalds. Nor has she attempted to rely on your flimsy rationale of the records being lost. She simply provides no rebuttal to the lack of documentation question. If Harris is willing to repeatedly make an unsubstantiated, plausibly false, claim, that calls her honesty into question. Such dishonesty is a consideration for her qualification to be President. It matters.
Evidently no one here knows for sure if Harris did or didn't work at McDonald's.

Those that like her believe she did.
Those that dislike her believe she didn't.

Myself, I dont know so I won't argue either way about it.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
Her mother earned a Ph.D. in nutrition and endocrinology at UC Berkeley in 1964(the year Kamala was born).
So I would assume with a Ph.d. her earnings weren't meek.
Instead of assuming, why not look them up? (Keeping in mind the difference in pay between men and women at the time)
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Instead of assuming, why not look them up? (Keeping in mind the difference in pay between men and women at the time)
I actually did. The site I looked at said new Ph.d pay was around 3x that of the annual individual salary. But its not that cut and dry with varying +/- reports.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
I actually did. The site I looked at said new Ph.d pay was around 3x that of the annual individual salary. But its not that cut and dry with varying +/- reports.
Did it account for the differences in gender? The gender gap in pay during the 1970's was rather pronounced.
 
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Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I keep seeing Harris' campaign ads with people talking about how Trump fights for rich people and Kamala fights for us.

Team Trump plays an out of context video with Kamala talking about bread being up 50% and beef being up almost 50%.

Is being president about fighting? Fighting what? None of these ads address what the 'fight' is.

My disappointment in the candidates and their campaigns may lead me to write in Floyd Mayweather, since he has more fighting experience than both frontrunners.

How about you jack***es stop finger-pointing and talk about working together to fix what's broken? Until you do, neither one of you have my vote.
I am definitely writing in my vote.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
That kind of cynicism won't help keep the love of democracy alive in the U.S. And consider, I've just seen this from Reuters:

Republicans prepare to legally nullify US election results - Reuters

Story by Bohdan Babaiev
The Republican Party is working on a legal challenge to the results of the presidential elections in the United States. This assessment comes from members of the campaign team for Democratic presidential candidate Kamala Harris, according to Reuters.
It is noted that Republican representatives typically file motions in court for various restrictions on voting access, which they claim are necessary to prevent fraud. Meanwhile, Democrats are asking courts to ensure voting accessibility.
In Arizona, an advocacy group founded by Donald Trump advisor Stephen Miller is promoting a bold legal theory: judges may annul election results due to failures or irregularities by local officials.
The lawsuit by the conservative advocacy group America First Legal Foundation argues that courts should have the authority to nullify election results and schedule new voting rounds in two Arizona counties. These counties are where Democratic candidate, Vice President Kamala Harris, leads Trump in polls by a narrow margin.
In Michigan, Republicans have filed a lawsuit to prevent state agencies from expanding voter registration access, limiting the use of mobile voting sites such as vans, and implementing stricter rules for verifying mail-in ballots.
In Nevada, Trump allies are attempting to purge voter rolls of individuals who allegedly do not have the right to vote, as well as foreign nationals, although the deadline for systematically checking voter rolls before the elections has already passed.

There's more, but it's much of the same...If Americans want a democracy, they'd better get ready to preserve it from those who would take it away from them..

"This assessment comes from members of the campaign team for Democratic presidential candidate Kamala Harris, according to Reuters."

I stopped reading there.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
No. I said McDonald's not the franchises.
Saying the name doesn't say whom you speak of.
Oh, look whataboutism. If Trump ever makes a claim that he worked at McDonalds let me know.
This isn't your thread.
My post is on topic.
When voting for 1 of 2 candidates, it's only
reasonable to apply a standard of judgement
to both....not only to the one you loathe.

What causes such blind love for Trump anyway?
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
She grew up with her mother, not with her father.
I ask again if these people are serious that they think the plantation master raping a slave transfers the imprimatur of wealth to that slave progeny that was her father?

But then again, that makes her an Irish American and they haven't been considered polluters of American society since the days of the Know Nothing party. Hmm, everything that is old is new again?
 
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