Altfish
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Fool, there's only one fool in this conversation.It’s not “my side.” I’m an independent trying to decide who to vote for. You might wanna check yourself before making baseless assumptions and looking like a fool.
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Fool, there's only one fool in this conversation.It’s not “my side.” I’m an independent trying to decide who to vote for. You might wanna check yourself before making baseless assumptions and looking like a fool.
I expect hyperbole and minor deception from political campaigns. However, I read the whole link, and found that, compared to Trump's outright, whole-cloth fabrications, these were very minor, and an order of magnitude less frequent by comparison.
It’s not “my side.” I’m an independent trying to decide who to vote for.
When you learn something about human nature, you discover that "facts" and being above board are just about entirely ineffective at changing people's minds about what they've previously accepted as true -- for whatever reason. It is not always (nor even often) effective to "go high when they go low." The endless stream of scurrilous and untrue invective being tossed moment by moment at Kamala Harris and Tim Walz by Trump and Vance has to be countered somehow, and -- as I've just said, "facts" ain't gonna do it. Even when the invective is tossed at Haitian immigrants -- putting them in very real danger -- do you think endless "officials" saying "there is zero evidence that these accusations are true" it's going to make any difference? If you think so, then you have no explanation for the threats against those very Haitians in Springfield that are happening right now.Why “of course”? These were clips deliberately cut and taken out of context. Lies. Not as bad as Trump. We all agree on that. But why can’t Harris keep things above board as party leaders requested at the DNC?
Nice retort. *eyeroll*Fool, there's only one fool in this conversation.
No, the left is tired of the right treating a parking ticket as the same crime as murder. Every politician is going to embellish and misrepresent to some degree, but nothing is like Trump's absurd lies that no sane person believes. If Harris lies about anything it will be nothing like what Trump lies about. Trump is unfit, there is no other option for rational minds.Interesting this thread isn’t getting much attention. I guess the Left is OK with their candidate lying. I had hoped Harris would do better. “When they go low we go high!”
Obama and B Clinton even made it a point in their DNC speeches to keep things positive and don’t sink to the opponent’s level. Too bad modern-day Dems didn’t listen.
Yep. I’ve already said it doesn’t compare to Trump. Doesn’t mean I have to like or accept it. Does t mean I can’t expect better. And I’m siding with the Obamas and Bill Clinton who I think know a lot more about this stuff than you lot.No, the left is tired of the right treating a parking ticket as the same crime as murder. Every politician is going to embellish and misrepresent to some degree, but nothing is like Trump's absurd lies that no sane person believes. If Harris lies about anything it will be nothing like what Trump lies about. Trump is unfit, there is no other option for rational minds.
I've noticed more and more people want some perfect ideal that can never exist. And they blame the better of the two candidates for not meeting this expectation. So maybe Trump, they say without realizing the irony.Yep. I’ve already said it doesn’t compare to Trump. Doesn’t mean I have to like or accept it. Does t mean I can’t expect better. And I’m siding with the Obamas and Bill Clinton who I think know a lot more about this stuff than you lot.