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Kamala Harris doesn't owe the national press anything

anna.

colors your eyes with what's not there
This opinion piece speaks for me, and for a lot of Democrats I know who aren't giving a minute of their time to concern trolls wringing their hands about why Kamala Harris hasn't given a press conference, especially when the ones wringing their hands are MAGA and corporate media, those not-too-strange bedfellows.


The Beltway press is angry that Vice President Kamala Harris hasn’t sat down with them to talk about things like policy. In their warped, archaic minds, they are important to the political process as a way to inform readers about the candidates.

That was a thing before social media and the internet, for sure. But today? The Beltway media is broken beyond repair, and we’re all doing fine learning about Harris on our own, thank you very much.

Margaret Sullivan, a columnist for The Guardian, echoed much of the press with her haughtily titled column “Kamala Harris must speak to the press,” published Tuesday. As Sullivan admits up front, Harris is riding high bypassing the traditional press, rising in the polls, and dominating media coverage.

“From a tactical or strategic point of view, there’s little reason” for Harris to give a sit-down interview or hold a press conference, Sullivan wrote.

She also admits the core reality of today’s Beltway media: “What’s more, when the vice-president has interacted with reporters in recent weeks, as in a brief ‘gaggle’ during a campaign stop, the questions were silly. Seeking campaign drama rather than substance, they centered on Donald Trump’s attacks or when she was planning to do a press conference.”

That should’ve been the end of the column. Harris doesn’t need the press, and when she does talk to them, they squander their opportunity on inanities. The end!

. . . .[Except it wasn't. More at the link, or open the spoiler] . . . .


This missive set off many a journalist, such as NPR media correspondent David Folkenflik, who replied, “Jeff, this just can't be the stance for any journalist who cares about the profession or the nation to take.”

How breathtakingly arrogant! As if you can’t care about the nation if you don’t think Harris should bow to the whims of the press.

Norm Ornstein, a scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, joined the debate, responding to Folkenflik:

I understand why journalists want to take this stance. But the fact is we have had no reflection, no willingness to think through how irresponsible and reckless so much of our mainstream press and so many of our journalists have [been] and continue to be[.] Watch how often the White House press briefings end up as embarrassing zoos. Consider for example at O’Keefe’s shouting at and hectoring the press secretary. Far too many questions have little to do with what Americans care about, and more reflect the egos of the reporters. Watching the farce of a faux press conference with Trump, with not a single question about what should’ve been the big story of the day, an alleged $10 million bribe from Egypt, and few questions about what is most important, the stakes of the [election and] Trump’s approach to governance.
And Jarvis hasn’t backed down. “When given a chance to ask questions, [the press sounds] like they're in a locker room, seeking quotes, not policy,” he added in another tweet. “This does nothing to inform the electorate. I know the argument about testing a candidate: but the press as currently configured aims for game & gotcha.”

What emerges from this debate shouldn’t be sympathy for a marginalized Beltway press. Instead, it should be anger at the imbalance in how that press has covered Democrats and Trump. Their coverage of Trump’s rallies normalizes his seconds of coherence, ignoring the hours of mad ramblings. They spent years fixated on President Joe Biden’s age, then wrote headlines like “The economy is strong but voters aren't feeling it. That's a problem for Biden.” They create the zeitgeist based on the narrative they want to push, and highlighting the success of Biden’s presidency was never in the cards.

But hey, they rush to their computers to file story after story about how this time, for real, Trump will finally be a changed man. We saw it after the July 13 assassination attempt, and we saw it when they credulously wrote headlines about Trump’s convention speech based on prepared remarks that he quickly abandoned. And they gloss over Trump’s rampant racism and sexism while eagerly awaiting his next childish schoolyard taunt against Harris. (“‘Krazy Kamala’ didn’t stick, so what will he try next? Details at 10!”)

Yes, Biden’s debate performance was a disaster, but so was Trump’s convention speech and his bizarrely slurred Monday conversation with billionaire Elon Musk. And that’s before we even get to the press’ inability to handle Trump’s pathological lies and fully grasp his promises of outright fascism.

Imagine if it wasn’t Trump but Harris who’d confidently declared that her opponent had “A.I.’d” the size of his crowds in photos. The press would engage in a multiweek feeding frenzy about her mental state. But with Trump? There’s the obligatory fact-check, but that’s about it.

Imagine if someone leaked Trump campaign emails and documents—would the press report on that with the same gusto as they did with the Hillary Clinton leaks in 2016? This time, we don’t have to imagine. It happened, and the Beltway media did exactly what we knew they would: refused to publish them. The same outlets that literally had live blogs of the Clinton leaks suddenly decided that their ethics forbade them from publishing whatever it was that they received.

And none have adequately explained why they’re handling the Trump emails differently, much less have apologized for the double standard.

Once more, this time with Harris, the Beltway media has decided to insert itself into the process, rather than report on it. How else do you explain The New York Times’ hissy fit over Biden’s refusal to sit for an interview with the outlet earlier this year, calling it a “dangerous precedent,” as if they were owed face time with the president? Biden didn’t owe them or any other media outlet ****, and neither does Harris.

And let’s take it one step further.

A presidential candidate’s job is to win. That’s it! So pray tell, how does talking to The New York Times or any other national media outlet help that cause? Either journalists will ask ridiculous, shallow questions and waste everyone’s time, or they’ll fish for a gotcha quote they can use to generate “controversy” and clicks. Or they might actually ask a policy question, which … no one cares. Literally, no one. For decades, Democrats issued reams of policy white papers, and no one cared. At best, those policy proclamations are ignored; at worst, they become attack fodder for the other party.

There are two candidates this election, and no one is basing their decision on the finer points of a policy platform. They are basing it on values. Republicans have known this and wielded it to great electoral success, and now Democrats are finally there. Watch that Walz clip above, and tell me how that doesn’t speak 1,000 times better to the heart of a Harris-Walz administration than some ridiculous question about what Harris would do with Lina Khan, head of the Federal Trade Commission.

All of this being said, Harris should talk to local newspapers and TV reporters in battleground markets. There is research that suggests that local coverage can very much stimulate voter results.


But the national Beltway press? They need to reckon with their failures. Until then? Harris can speak to them if it tactically suits her campaign, but otherwise, she doesn’t owe them anything.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
This opinion piece speaks for me, and for a lot of Democrats I know who aren't giving a minute of their time to concern trolls wringing their hands about why Kamala Harris hasn't given a press conference, especially when the ones wringing their hands are MAGA and corporate media, those not-too-strange bedfellows.


The Beltway press is angry that Vice President Kamala Harris hasn’t sat down with them to talk about things like policy. In their warped, archaic minds, they are important to the political process as a way to inform readers about the candidates.

That was a thing before social media and the internet, for sure. But today? The Beltway media is broken beyond repair, and we’re all doing fine learning about Harris on our own, thank you very much.

Margaret Sullivan, a columnist for The Guardian, echoed much of the press with her haughtily titled column “Kamala Harris must speak to the press,” published Tuesday. As Sullivan admits up front, Harris is riding high bypassing the traditional press, rising in the polls, and dominating media coverage.

“From a tactical or strategic point of view, there’s little reason” for Harris to give a sit-down interview or hold a press conference, Sullivan wrote.

She also admits the core reality of today’s Beltway media: “What’s more, when the vice-president has interacted with reporters in recent weeks, as in a brief ‘gaggle’ during a campaign stop, the questions were silly. Seeking campaign drama rather than substance, they centered on Donald Trump’s attacks or when she was planning to do a press conference.”

That should’ve been the end of the column. Harris doesn’t need the press, and when she does talk to them, they squander their opportunity on inanities. The end!

. . . .[Except it wasn't. More at the link, or open the spoiler] . . . .


This missive set off many a journalist, such as NPR media correspondent David Folkenflik, who replied, “Jeff, this just can't be the stance for any journalist who cares about the profession or the nation to take.”

How breathtakingly arrogant! As if you can’t care about the nation if you don’t think Harris should bow to the whims of the press.

Norm Ornstein, a scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, joined the debate, responding to Folkenflik:

I understand why journalists want to take this stance. But the fact is we have had no reflection, no willingness to think through how irresponsible and reckless so much of our mainstream press and so many of our journalists have [been] and continue to be[.] Watch how often the White House press briefings end up as embarrassing zoos. Consider for example at O’Keefe’s shouting at and hectoring the press secretary. Far too many questions have little to do with what Americans care about, and more reflect the egos of the reporters. Watching the farce of a faux press conference with Trump, with not a single question about what should’ve been the big story of the day, an alleged $10 million bribe from Egypt, and few questions about what is most important, the stakes of the [election and] Trump’s approach to governance.
And Jarvis hasn’t backed down. “When given a chance to ask questions, [the press sounds] like they're in a locker room, seeking quotes, not policy,” he added in another tweet. “This does nothing to inform the electorate. I know the argument about testing a candidate: but the press as currently configured aims for game & gotcha.”

What emerges from this debate shouldn’t be sympathy for a marginalized Beltway press. Instead, it should be anger at the imbalance in how that press has covered Democrats and Trump. Their coverage of Trump’s rallies normalizes his seconds of coherence, ignoring the hours of mad ramblings. They spent years fixated on President Joe Biden’s age, then wrote headlines like “The economy is strong but voters aren't feeling it. That's a problem for Biden.” They create the zeitgeist based on the narrative they want to push, and highlighting the success of Biden’s presidency was never in the cards.

But hey, they rush to their computers to file story after story about how this time, for real, Trump will finally be a changed man. We saw it after the July 13 assassination attempt, and we saw it when they credulously wrote headlines about Trump’s convention speech based on prepared remarks that he quickly abandoned. And they gloss over Trump’s rampant racism and sexism while eagerly awaiting his next childish schoolyard taunt against Harris. (“‘Krazy Kamala’ didn’t stick, so what will he try next? Details at 10!”)

Yes, Biden’s debate performance was a disaster, but so was Trump’s convention speech and his bizarrely slurred Monday conversation with billionaire Elon Musk. And that’s before we even get to the press’ inability to handle Trump’s pathological lies and fully grasp his promises of outright fascism.

Imagine if it wasn’t Trump but Harris who’d confidently declared that her opponent had “A.I.’d” the size of his crowds in photos. The press would engage in a multiweek feeding frenzy about her mental state. But with Trump? There’s the obligatory fact-check, but that’s about it.

Imagine if someone leaked Trump campaign emails and documents—would the press report on that with the same gusto as they did with the Hillary Clinton leaks in 2016? This time, we don’t have to imagine. It happened, and the Beltway media did exactly what we knew they would: refused to publish them. The same outlets that literally had live blogs of the Clinton leaks suddenly decided that their ethics forbade them from publishing whatever it was that they received.

And none have adequately explained why they’re handling the Trump emails differently, much less have apologized for the double standard.

Once more, this time with Harris, the Beltway media has decided to insert itself into the process, rather than report on it. How else do you explain The New York Times’ hissy fit over Biden’s refusal to sit for an interview with the outlet earlier this year, calling it a “dangerous precedent,” as if they were owed face time with the president? Biden didn’t owe them or any other media outlet ****, and neither does Harris.

And let’s take it one step further.

A presidential candidate’s job is to win. That’s it! So pray tell, how does talking to The New York Times or any other national media outlet help that cause? Either journalists will ask ridiculous, shallow questions and waste everyone’s time, or they’ll fish for a gotcha quote they can use to generate “controversy” and clicks. Or they might actually ask a policy question, which … no one cares. Literally, no one. For decades, Democrats issued reams of policy white papers, and no one cared. At best, those policy proclamations are ignored; at worst, they become attack fodder for the other party.

There are two candidates this election, and no one is basing their decision on the finer points of a policy platform. They are basing it on values. Republicans have known this and wielded it to great electoral success, and now Democrats are finally there. Watch that Walz clip above, and tell me how that doesn’t speak 1,000 times better to the heart of a Harris-Walz administration than some ridiculous question about what Harris would do with Lina Khan, head of the Federal Trade Commission.

All of this being said, Harris should talk to local newspapers and TV reporters in battleground markets. There is research that suggests that local coverage can very much stimulate voter results.


But the national Beltway press? They need to reckon with their failures. Until then? Harris can speak to them if it tactically suits her campaign, but otherwise, she doesn’t owe them anything.
In other words, Harris has no plan or strategy for anything and essentially sends the message that she doesn't even know what the hell she's doing.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Or she is smarter than you and realizes that playing the stupid press game is a waste of time when the message is easily expressed by other means.
:)
Easily expressed isn't on par with actual accomplishment.

For a person who is considered allegedly smart she really doesn't do much does she?
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
I'm more interested in actual ability and getting things done.
Like Trumps infrastucture plan or his replacement for Obama-care or his Mexico provided border wall. Yeah right.
Easily expressed isn't on par with actual accomplishment.

For a person who is considered allegedly smart she really doesn't do much does she?
Apparently enough thus far to inspire a sufficient number to vote for her which is the current metric, that would define her as successful your opinion notwithstanding. LOL
 

anna.

colors your eyes with what's not there

the press can **** straight off, let us count the ways

the media continues to make excuses for Donny’s incoherence
the lazy stenographers of the corporate-controlled media continue to fail us. they dissect the Harris-Walz campaign under a microscope, while at the same time issuing Donny Convict the endless series of free passes he’s been granted his entire privileged life.​


It won't let me embed the direct link for some reason, so the above link is to the main page. The article is front and center at the moment.
 
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wellwisher

Well-Known Member
This opinion piece speaks for me, and for a lot of Democrats I know who aren't giving a minute of their time to concern trolls wringing their hands about why Kamala Harris hasn't given a press conference, especially when the ones wringing their hands are MAGA and corporate media, those not-too-strange bedfellows.


The Beltway press is angry that Vice President Kamala Harris hasn’t sat down with them to talk about things like policy. In their warped, archaic minds, they are important to the political process as a way to inform readers about the candidates.

That was a thing before social media and the internet, for sure. But today? The Beltway media is broken beyond repair, and we’re all doing fine learning about Harris on our own, thank you very much.

Margaret Sullivan, a columnist for The Guardian, echoed much of the press with her haughtily titled column “Kamala Harris must speak to the press,” published Tuesday. As Sullivan admits up front, Harris is riding high bypassing the traditional press, rising in the polls, and dominating media coverage.

“From a tactical or strategic point of view, there’s little reason” for Harris to give a sit-down interview or hold a press conference, Sullivan wrote.

She also admits the core reality of today’s Beltway media: “What’s more, when the vice-president has interacted with reporters in recent weeks, as in a brief ‘gaggle’ during a campaign stop, the questions were silly. Seeking campaign drama rather than substance, they centered on Donald Trump’s attacks or when she was planning to do a press conference.”

That should’ve been the end of the column. Harris doesn’t need the press, and when she does talk to them, they squander their opportunity on inanities. The end!

. . . .[Except it wasn't. More at the link, or open the spoiler] . . . .


This missive set off many a journalist, such as NPR media correspondent David Folkenflik, who replied, “Jeff, this just can't be the stance for any journalist who cares about the profession or the nation to take.”

How breathtakingly arrogant! As if you can’t care about the nation if you don’t think Harris should bow to the whims of the press.

Norm Ornstein, a scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, joined the debate, responding to Folkenflik:

I understand why journalists want to take this stance. But the fact is we have had no reflection, no willingness to think through how irresponsible and reckless so much of our mainstream press and so many of our journalists have [been] and continue to be[.] Watch how often the White House press briefings end up as embarrassing zoos. Consider for example at O’Keefe’s shouting at and hectoring the press secretary. Far too many questions have little to do with what Americans care about, and more reflect the egos of the reporters. Watching the farce of a faux press conference with Trump, with not a single question about what should’ve been the big story of the day, an alleged $10 million bribe from Egypt, and few questions about what is most important, the stakes of the [election and] Trump’s approach to governance.
And Jarvis hasn’t backed down. “When given a chance to ask questions, [the press sounds] like they're in a locker room, seeking quotes, not policy,” he added in another tweet. “This does nothing to inform the electorate. I know the argument about testing a candidate: but the press as currently configured aims for game & gotcha.”

What emerges from this debate shouldn’t be sympathy for a marginalized Beltway press. Instead, it should be anger at the imbalance in how that press has covered Democrats and Trump. Their coverage of Trump’s rallies normalizes his seconds of coherence, ignoring the hours of mad ramblings. They spent years fixated on President Joe Biden’s age, then wrote headlines like “The economy is strong but voters aren't feeling it. That's a problem for Biden.” They create the zeitgeist based on the narrative they want to push, and highlighting the success of Biden’s presidency was never in the cards.

But hey, they rush to their computers to file story after story about how this time, for real, Trump will finally be a changed man. We saw it after the July 13 assassination attempt, and we saw it when they credulously wrote headlines about Trump’s convention speech based on prepared remarks that he quickly abandoned. And they gloss over Trump’s rampant racism and sexism while eagerly awaiting his next childish schoolyard taunt against Harris. (“‘Krazy Kamala’ didn’t stick, so what will he try next? Details at 10!”)

Yes, Biden’s debate performance was a disaster, but so was Trump’s convention speech and his bizarrely slurred Monday conversation with billionaire Elon Musk. And that’s before we even get to the press’ inability to handle Trump’s pathological lies and fully grasp his promises of outright fascism.

Imagine if it wasn’t Trump but Harris who’d confidently declared that her opponent had “A.I.’d” the size of his crowds in photos. The press would engage in a multiweek feeding frenzy about her mental state. But with Trump? There’s the obligatory fact-check, but that’s about it.

Imagine if someone leaked Trump campaign emails and documents—would the press report on that with the same gusto as they did with the Hillary Clinton leaks in 2016? This time, we don’t have to imagine. It happened, and the Beltway media did exactly what we knew they would: refused to publish them. The same outlets that literally had live blogs of the Clinton leaks suddenly decided that their ethics forbade them from publishing whatever it was that they received.

And none have adequately explained why they’re handling the Trump emails differently, much less have apologized for the double standard.

Once more, this time with Harris, the Beltway media has decided to insert itself into the process, rather than report on it. How else do you explain The New York Times’ hissy fit over Biden’s refusal to sit for an interview with the outlet earlier this year, calling it a “dangerous precedent,” as if they were owed face time with the president? Biden didn’t owe them or any other media outlet ****, and neither does Harris.

And let’s take it one step further.

A presidential candidate’s job is to win. That’s it! So pray tell, how does talking to The New York Times or any other national media outlet help that cause? Either journalists will ask ridiculous, shallow questions and waste everyone’s time, or they’ll fish for a gotcha quote they can use to generate “controversy” and clicks. Or they might actually ask a policy question, which … no one cares. Literally, no one. For decades, Democrats issued reams of policy white papers, and no one cared. At best, those policy proclamations are ignored; at worst, they become attack fodder for the other party.

There are two candidates this election, and no one is basing their decision on the finer points of a policy platform. They are basing it on values. Republicans have known this and wielded it to great electoral success, and now Democrats are finally there. Watch that Walz clip above, and tell me how that doesn’t speak 1,000 times better to the heart of a Harris-Walz administration than some ridiculous question about what Harris would do with Lina Khan, head of the Federal Trade Commission.

All of this being said, Harris should talk to local newspapers and TV reporters in battleground markets. There is research that suggests that local coverage can very much stimulate voter results.


But the national Beltway press? They need to reckon with their failures. Until then? Harris can speak to them if it tactically suits her campaign, but otherwise, she doesn’t owe them anything.
The two major issues for the American Citizens, are the high inflation and illegal immigration caused by Biden and Harris. Harris is saying if elected I will fix these problems. But question remains, what has she done in four years and why not start now? Avoiding the media may be excused by all the faithful Liberals, but Independents and Other, on the fence, who did better on both issues under Trump, want to give Harris a chance to explain, but her ignoring them, makes them lose trust that anything will change, if she gets in.

When Biden ran, the USA was on the "up" in terms of the economy, in spite of COVID. The economy came back better than expected and was getting back on track. This was less of an issue and the basement campaign of Biden, which allowed a fairy tale to be woven, was quite effective. But this time, people are hurting and they do not want be entertained again; repeat.

Rather they need to be informed about the plans forward to set their minds at ease. Trump is doing this even in hostile media territory. Harris is losing that opportunity to address their concerns They do not want another morningTV show, for a distraction. Harris and Walz remain me of the morning show Kelly and Mark; sort of light, happy, cooking, etc. It may be the same writers.

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Pogo

Well-Known Member

the press can **** straight off, let us count the ways

the media continues to make excuses for Donny’s incoherence
the lazy stenographers of the corporate-controlled media continue to fail us. they dissect the Harris-Walz campaign under a microscope, while at the same time issuing Donny Convict the endless series of free passes he’s been granted his entire privileged life.​


It won't let me embed the direct link for some reason, so the above link is to the main page. The article is front and center at the moment.
Which brings up a subscriber request however, if you C+P the headline with the **** fixed, Google will find his rather colorful rant.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
In other words, Harris has no plan or strategy for anything and essentially sends the message that she doesn't even know what the hell she's doing.
No, she's just showing us she's confident, in control and not suffering the fools. She's talking, the entitled press just isn't listening.
 

anna.

colors your eyes with what's not there
Rather they need to be informed about the plans forward to set their minds at ease.

That's not what they want, and they know it and we know it.


Be ever so real, y’all. You know that quote, “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results”? It would be insane to subject yourself to unfettered questions by an industry that doesn’t seem to know how to handle interviews with true journalistic integrity and practices. Why beat your head against a wall you know is made of brick and disinformation?​
Harris has seen a media landscape that arguably legitimized soon-to-be-President Donald Trump as a normal candidate when he was sowing seeds of unrest, writing about him agreeing to accept the 2016 election results, “if I win,”and then denying those results in 2020 with not an nth of the absolute pushback and condemnation it deserved. She saw, as we all did, major outlets referring to obvious racist attacks by the current Republican nominee and others as “racially tinged” and to blatant bloody lies as “falsehoods” and “misstatements.”​
The vice president recently approached the press gaggle with a deliberately direct “Whatcha got?” That is the same thing my late daddy used to ask me point-blank when I’d been calling and calling and he knew I wanted something. The reporters had been clamoring for this. And their response? A bunch of requests for a response to crazy stuff Trump said about her.​
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner

the press can **** straight off, let us count the ways

the media continues to make excuses for Donny’s incoherence
the lazy stenographers of the corporate-controlled media continue to fail us. they dissect the Harris-Walz campaign under a microscope, while at the same time issuing Donny Convict the endless series of free passes he’s been granted his entire privileged life.​


It won't let me embed the direct link for some reason, so the above link is to the main page. The article is front and center at the moment.
Yup. They aren't attacking him like they did Biden, even though Trump has been the worst speaker and lower performing in mental capabilities than Biden (like his trying to issue military orders over twitter and divulging military secrets that endangered American and Allied lives) going back at least as far as 2014/15.
 

anna.

colors your eyes with what's not there
Yup. They aren't attacking him like they did Biden, even though Trump has been the worst speaker and lower performing in mental capabilities than Biden (like his trying to issue military orders over twitter and divulging military secrets that endangered American and Allied lives) going back at least as far as 2014/15.

Exactly. I'm sick of corporate media. I posted this in a different thread but it's good here too. It's satire, they skewer NYT headlines on a regular basis.
Short and sweet - with Trump, a 1 point lead is "commanding," with Kamala, a 4 point lead is "narrow." That's corporate press in a nutshell.

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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Exactly. I'm sick of corporate media. I posted this in a different thread but it's good here too. It's satire, they skewer NYT headlines on a regular basis.
Short and sweet - with Trump, a 1 point lead is "commanding," with Kamala, a 4 point lead is "narrow." That's corporate press in a nutshell.

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It's almost as if for ratings they'd rather have the candidate who's most likely to have their heads.
 
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