Kamala Harris. Who do you think her VP pick will be.

[LuisDantas]

Speaking of that, it was back in 2004 that a Republican candidate actually achieved more votes than the Democrat candidate.

The Electoral College has really protected the Republican Party in the last couple of decades.

 

[Watchmen]

As typical of so many of your posts, the above is nothing short of sheer partisan nonsense. The delegates will cast their choice in a couple of weeks, and it's pretty much a given that the vast majority will go with Kamala.

But let’s not pretend that this outcome wasn’t because it was the powers that be who deemed it so.

 

[Pogo]

But let’s not pretend that this outcome wasn’t because it was the powers that be who deemed it so.

You mean wishful power of water.

 

[Laniakea]

I'm not sure the Dems losing a senator at this time the best move.

Unless they're one of the 6 that voted to condemn her record as Border Czar. Those 6 will probably oppose her in other ways in the future, so why not take one from being a Senator to being her VP? It wouldn't be the first stupid thing she's done, and nobody will criticize her for it because she's a black woman.

 

[metis]

But let’s not pretend that this outcome wasn’t because it was the powers that be who deemed it so.

Not logical as it took quite a while for Biden to decide not to run. In order to replace him, Kamala had to be the choice unless the Dems wanted to commit political suicide.

 

[We Never Know]

I'm finding myself focussing more and more on Mark Kelly -- assuming, of course, that such an assignment would not place an undue burden on Gabby Giffords.

As for Kelly...

"Vice President Kamala Harris has received a flurry of endorsements from many of the nation's largest labor unions since she announced her candidacy for president.

Concern has emerged within the labor movement, however, over the potential selection of Sen. Mark Kelly, D-Ariz., as a running mate because he has not signed onto a key piece of labor reform legislation"

Current and former union officials told ABC News that the possible selection of Kelly sounds alarm bells due to his unwillingness to back the PRO Act, legislation that would ease the path toward forming unions and winning labor contracts. Some officials outright oppose the pick, while others say the policy position should be part of a wider assessment of Kelly...

"Why would the Democrats even consider a senator for the vice presidency if the senator doesn't support the PRO Act?" John Samuelsen, president of the Transport Workers Union and an ally of President Joe Biden, told ABC News. "It's the most important piece of national legislation workers have right now."

Labor unions unite behind Kamala Harris but concern emerges about potential VP pick Mark Kelly

Concern centers on a policy position taken by Sen. Mark Kelly of Arizona.

abcnews-go-com.cdn.ampproject.org

 

[We Never Know]

Not logical as it took quite a while for Biden to decide not to run. In order to replace him, Kamala had to be the choice unless the Dems wanted to commit political suicide.

Biden was in till the end. I'm not dropping out. I'm not going any where. Lets finish this thing.
Etc etc.

The powers that be kept mounting against him.
IMO with so many collegues, supporters, allies, and friends against him he wouldn't have gotten the nomination next month at their convention. That would have been disgraceful. He had no choice but to drop out.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

As for Kelly...

Re Kelly:

1. Senator Mark Kelly Says He Supports 'Overall Goals' Of PRO Act
2. MarkKelly, A Potential Democratic VP Candidate, Endorses the PRO Act

Note that link #1 refers to a 7/21/2021 article while the second is from yesterday and refers to the first.

Looking at this 2021 article one reads the following:

“I would like to see some changes,” Kelly added. “I do have some concerns with the legislation, specifically things about who qualifies as an independent contractor. Sometimes employers often use that to their advantage. In other cases, I do think people should be able to be independent contractors.”​

While I could be wrong, I read this as expressing a concern about an anti-labor loophole.

 

[We Never Know]

Re Kelly:

1. Senator Mark Kelly Says He Supports 'Overall Goals' Of PRO Act
2. MarkKelly, A Potential Democratic VP Candidate, Endorses the PRO Act

Note that link #1 refers to a 7/21/2021 article while the second is from yesterday and refers to the first.

Looking at this 2021 article one reads the following:

“I would like to see some changes,” Kelly added. “I do have some concerns with the legislation, specifically things about who qualifies as an independent contractor. Sometimes employers often use that to their advantage. In other cases, I do think people should be able to be independent contractors.”​

While I could be wrong, I read this as expressing a concern about an anti-labor loophole.

Also yesterday..

"The Arizona senator's lack of support for the PRO Act had provoked the ire of some progressives and labor groups.

Amid speculation he’s on Vice President Kamala Harris’ shortlist for a running mate, Sen. Mark Kelly’s (D-Ariz.) spokesperson said he will support a piece of pro-labor legislation.

Kelly did not co-sponsor the legislation known as the PRO Act, provoking the ire of some progressives and labor unions. It was unclear whether it was a red line for organized labor for him to be considered as Harris’ vice president."

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/07/24/congress/kelly-to-support-pro-labor-bill-00170954

 

[Watchmen]

Not logical as it took quite a while for Biden to decide not to run. In order to replace him, Kamala had to be the choice unless the Dems wanted to commit political suicide.

Yes. She had to be the choice. And yes, the powers that be made it happen.

 

[Neelix]

Yep. She still has to secure the delegates.

That's done now.
Too bad she didn't have to secure the votes of the public like Biden did. That didn't work so well back in 2020, so good for her for being able to be installed rather than elected.

 

[Neelix]

I think you would be hard pressed to find even a handful of Ds who 'hate Harris.' She would be about 199 out of 200 of my options to be the candidate for the Ds (I am an 'I'). My point is that the Ds are overwhelming in agreement that the Orange One must not be in power again. So we must suck it up and go with the best option to stop him.

During the dems primaries of 2020, she was the first to drop out because she was the least favorable. Call it "hate", or call it a recognition of how unsuitable she is for the job, it doesn't matter now because those who voted for Biden to be their nominee this time around will have to settle for her. If they don't like it, too bad!
Democracy!!!

 

[Neelix]

You are quite mistaken. There is nothing wrong with Harris.

Now the question is that the oldest nominee for President in US history is still in the race and he has shown signs of substantial mental decline. What will that party do about that?

Wait til she's allowed to speak in interviews. She hasn't been so good with that so far. Word salads and all, cackling like a chicken, and her weird obsession over electric school buses (which have proven to not be reliable). Her bailing out BLM rioters sure didn't help. But that didn't even get their support. Black Lives Matter denounces Democrats for "anointing" Kamala Harris

 

[Neelix]

Unless they're one of the 6 that voted to condemn her record as Border Czar. Those 6 will probably oppose her in other ways in the future, so why not take one from being a Senator to being her VP? It wouldn't be the first stupid thing she's done, and nobody will criticize her for it because she's a black woman.

Wow! Not so unified anymore as a party, even with Biden not running for prez anymore.

 

[Regiomontanus]

During the dems primaries of 2020, she was the first to drop out because she was the least favorable. Call it "hate", or call it a recognition of how unsuitable she is for the job, it doesn't matter now because those who voted for Biden to be their nominee this time around will have to settle for her. If they don't like it, too bad!
Democracy!!!

For me, every election really has come down to the choice between the 'lessor of two evils.' I disagree with Harris on a few things (I want to outlaw abortion) , but overall I see no choice (as a Christian) but to vote for Harris over Trump (his anti-Creation/environment policies are downright evil). Not even close.

Cheers

 

[Subduction Zone]

For me, every election really has come down to the choice between the 'lessor of two evils.' I disagree with Harris on a few things (I want to outlaw abortion) , but overall I see no choice (as a Christian) but to vote for Harris over Trump (his anti-Creation/environment policies are downright evil). Not even close.

Cheers

One cautionary tale. A government that can order you not to have an abortion also has the power to order a person to have one. To me it is a matter of personal choice either way. And ironically the best thing that a person can do if they do not like abortions is to support Planned Parenthood. They are all for the "Planned" part of their name. One service that they offer is free or low cost birth control so that abortions are not needed. And neighborhoods with Planned Parenthood offices have lower abortion rates than those that do not.

 

[Neelix]

For me, every election really has come down to the choice between the 'lessor of two evils.' I disagree with Harris on a few things (I want to outlaw abortion) , but overall I see no choice (as a Christian) but to vote for Harris over Trump (his anti-Creation/environment policies are downright evil). Not even close.

Cheers

Anti-creation? What is that?

 

[Neelix]

One cautionary tale. A government that can order you not to have an abortion also has the power to order a person to have one. To me it is a matter of personal choice either way. And ironically the best thing that a person can do if they do not like abortions is to support Planned Parenthood. They are all for the "Planned" part of their name. One service that they offer is free or low cost birth control so that abortions are not needed. And neighborhoods with Planned Parenthood offices have lower abortion rates than those that do not.

If Planned Parenthood doesn't perform the abortions, then who does? And why is it such an important thing to note that Planned Parenthood clinics closed their doors in places where abortion became illegal?

 

[Subduction Zone]

If Planned Parenthood doesn't perform the abortions, then who does? And why is it such an important thing to note that Planned Parenthood clinics closed their doors in places where abortion became illegal?

You need to work on your reading comprehension. You did not understand that post at all.

 

[metis]

Biden was in till the end. I'm not dropping out. I'm not going any where. Lets finish this thing.
Etc etc.

Yep, as Biden is well known for being stubborn.

The powers that be kept mounting against him.
IMO with so many collegues, supporters, allies, and friends against him he wouldn't have gotten the nomination next month at their convention. That would have been disgraceful. He had no choice but to drop out.

Yes, that's true, but it was not really some sort of "conspiracy" per se. The greatest pressures seemingly came from his lower poll numbers and donations, both of which were in decline. IOW, they were realistic in terms of what was happening and why.