"Kansas City Official: If We Close Schools for COVID-19, Teen Pregnancy Will Rise"

[Skwim]

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"March 19, 2020

Kansas City, Missouri Health Director Rex Archer doesn’t agree with the mandate to shut down all public schools in the wake of the COVID-19 outbreak. He says there were no reported cases of the virus infecting anyone in the area (though very few people have even been tested), and that closing the schools would create a host of other problems.

Like kids having sex.

“There is no evidence that closing a school will slow down this outbreak one bit,” Kansas City Health Director Rex Archer said.

Archer told a gathering of city council members and Mayor Quinton Lucas on Monday that closing schools can cause far more problems than it solves.

“We know that if you close schools teenage pregnancy rates go up and the potential of violence increases,” Archer said, without offering any evidence.
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I can’t wait for this guy to learn about summer vacation…

It’s ironic that Archer says there’s “no evidence” that quarantines will prevent the spread of the virus — there’s plenty of evidence — when there’s actually no evidence that shutting down schools will make the problem worse. Evidence, it seems, is only relevant for him when it supports his agenda.
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Sheesh!

 

[Shaul]

When did schools become prophylactics?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Hopefully he can be held criminally responsible for such dangerous nonsense. But this is America: He'll be applauded and praised for his "bravery in standing up to god hating secular atheist agendas that exist to hate god and Christian values and banish then from the public."

 

[Sunstone]

As everyone knows, the primary vector through which contagious respiratory diseases are transmitted in nearly every society that builds schools and provides public education are school children. Thus, shutting down the schools is a first line of defense against such illnesses. Another first line of defense would be to vaccinate the kids -- if we had a vaccine. Thus, Archer's views are irresponsible.

 

[Rational Agnostic]

As everyone knows, the primary vector through which contagious respiratory diseases are transmitted in nearly every society that builds schools and provides public education are school children. Thus, shutting down the schools is a first line of defense against such illnesses. Another first line of defense would be to vaccinate the kids -- if we had a vaccine. Thus, Archer's views are irresponsible.

You're probably right, but bills/mortgages/rent don't stop. In most families, both parents will continue working out of necessity, forcing kids into daycare facilities, spreading the disease. I have an unpopular opinion, and that is this: the coronavirus is not going away anytime soon, and shutting everything down is not sustainable or desirable if we want to live in a free society and avoid a major recession. So, let's encourage social distancing and keep taking precautions, but no more mandatory closures of businesses, forced curfews or lockdowns. We have seen viruses worse than this in history (polio, for instance), and never had such an extreme response. You may strongly disagree with me now, or perhaps think I'm a heartless ignoramus, but get back to me in a few months if we're still on lockdown. This way of life is 100% NOT sustainable from an economic or social standpoint. I think you'll find that the "cure" will have become worse than the disease.

 

[Shad]

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"March 19, 2020

Kansas City, Missouri Health Director Rex Archer doesn’t agree with the mandate to shut down all public schools in the wake of the COVID-19 outbreak. He says there were no reported cases of the virus infecting anyone in the area (though very few people have even been tested), and that closing the schools would create a host of other problems.

Like kids having sex.

“There is no evidence that closing a school will slow down this outbreak one bit,” Kansas City Health Director Rex Archer said.

Archer told a gathering of city council members and Mayor Quinton Lucas on Monday that closing schools can cause far more problems than it solves.

“We know that if you close schools teenage pregnancy rates go up and the potential of violence increases,” Archer said, without offering any evidence.
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I can’t wait for this guy to learn about summer vacation…

It’s ironic that Archer says there’s “no evidence” that quarantines will prevent the spread of the virus — there’s plenty of evidence — when there’s actually no evidence that shutting down schools will make the problem worse. Evidence, it seems, is only relevant for him when it supports his agenda.
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Sheesh!

While the point of increased teen pregnancy could be true it is a stupid rational for keeping schools open. Schools are for education not control of reproduction and sexual activities. That is the problem of the parents.

 

[sun rise]

While the point of increased teen pregnancy could be true it is a stupid rational for keeping schools open. Schools are for education not control of reproduction and sexual activities. That is the problem of the parents.

Once kids have learned how to put condoms on bananas, their responsibility ends.

 

[Shad]

You're probably right, but bills/mortgages/rent don't stop. In most families, both parents will continue working out of necessity, forcing kids into daycare facilities, spreading the disease. I have an unpopular opinion, and that is this: the coronavirus is not going away anytime soon, and shutting everything down is not sustainable or desirable if we want to live in a free society and avoid a major recession. So, let's encourage social distancing and keep taking precautions, but no more mandatory closures of businesses, forced curfews or lockdowns. We have seen viruses worse than this in history (polio, for instance), and never had such an extreme response. You may strongly disagree with me now, or perhaps think I'm a heartless ignoramus, but get back to me in a few months if we're still on lockdown. This way of life is 100% NOT sustainable from an economic or social standpoint. I think you'll find that the "cure" will have become worse than the disease.

Schools and whole cities enacted quarantines for polio. The 1916 outbreak in NYC for example. Quarantine as a policy by government in the US dates back 1878. Ellis Island is another example in which every immigrant that arrives near the area goes into mandatory quarantines. That was an immigration policy regardless of health. Those policies are why many of the health service provided by the US government exist.

The First World has forgotten what outbreaks were like over the last 50 to 100 years as those nation developed cures, vaccines, etc open to those nation's populations. Those threats faded from memory due to medical science. Go to a Third World nation and those threats still exist as a normal part of life. A recession is the costs of containing an outbreak as much as possible. You are not going to have a strong economy in the middle of an outbreak unless you want the death toll and infection rates to increase.

This issue is no longer about free market versus planned. Socialism vs Capitalism.

 

[Rational Agnostic]

Schools and whole cities enacted quarantines for polio. The 1916 outbreak in NYC for example. Quarantine as a policy by government in the US dates back 1878. Ellis Island is another example in which every immigrant that arrives near the area goes into mandatory quarantines. That was an immigration policy regardless of health. Those policies are why many of the health service provided by the US government exist.

The First World has forgotten what outbreaks were like over the last 50 to 100 years as those nation developed cures, vaccines, etc open to those nation's populations. Those threats faded from memory due to medical science. Go to a Third World nation and those threats still exist as a normal part of life.

You should actually do your research before commenting. People who had the disease were quarantined, and many events were cancelled in NYC. The entire country didn't go on lockdown. Polio was much more widespread in the 40s and 50s, and lockdowns and mass cancellations didn't occur, probably because the leadership remembered the Great Depression and realized what the consequences of a full-blown shutdown would be. 1916 New York City polio epidemic - Wikipedia

 

[Sunstone]

Once kids have learned how to put condoms on bananas, their responsibility ends.

I, too, am opposed to out-of-wedlock baby bananas. I stand with you in solidarity for responsible banana sex!

 

[Shad]

Once kids have learned how to put condoms on bananas, their responsibility ends.

No as parents still need to educate their children regarding who to have sex with and why.

 

[Shad]

You should actually do your research before commenting. People who had the disease were quarantined, and many events were cancelled in NYC. The entire country didn't go on lockdown.

I said cities specifically in my post. Corona-virus is more contiguous than polio thus the lock downs increase in scale. More so the Fed has not issued a lock down. Multiple states and cities have independently

Polio was much more widespread in the 40s and 50s, and lockdowns and mass cancellations didn't occur, probably because the leadership remembered the Great Depression and realized what the consequences of a full-blown shutdown would be. 1916 New York City polio epidemic - Wikipedia

Assertion without evidence. Have you considered that a failure to lock down in the past which increased the rate of infections and deaths is being avoided in the present. Ie Learn from history or be doomed to repeat it.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

You're probably right, but bills/mortgages/rent don't stop. In most families, both parents will continue working out of necessity, forcing kids into daycare facilities, spreading the disease. I have an unpopular opinion, and that is this: the coronavirus is not going away anytime soon, and shutting everything down is not sustainable or desirable if we want to live in a free society and avoid a major recession. So, let's encourage social distancing and keep taking precautions, but no more mandatory closures of businesses, forced curfews or lockdowns. We have seen viruses worse than this in history (polio, for instance), and never had such an extreme response. You may strongly disagree with me now, or perhaps think I'm a heartless ignoramus, but get back to me in a few months if we're still on lockdown. This way of life is 100% NOT sustainable from an economic or social standpoint. I think you'll find that the "cure" will have become worse than the disease.

I only agree with you partially. I think you are correct that the future is one in which our populations have a lot of (developed or vaccinated) immunity to this virus, as is the case with so many others. The problem is, it is very, very contagious because it is transmitted before anyone knows they have it, and it can produce very severe illness in some. If there are too many of those, our medical capacity to help the sick -- as in Italy -- will be severely compromised, and terrible decisions will have to be made about who to try and help, and who to let go.

This is not China -- we can't build a 1,000 bed hospital in 10 days, because we can't order people to behave like slaves. So the only rational choice -- for the short term, at least -- seems to be to try and flatten the curve.

 

[McBell]

Is he one of them who claim that same sex marriage will increase the number of children born out of wed-lock?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

No as parents still need to educate their children regarding who to have sex with and why.

Few parents actually do that. Around 25% was the last numbed I saw.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

As everyone knows, the primary vector through which contagious respiratory diseases are transmitted in nearly every society that builds schools and provides public education are school children. Thus, shutting down the schools is a first line of defense against such illnesses. Another first line of defense would be to vaccinate the kids -- if we had a vaccine. Thus, Archer's views are irresponsible.

I mostly agree, but it's a little trickier than that.
His 'childhood pregnancy' comment is ridiculous though.

One of the things were struggling with here is around the reduction in health staff available if we shut schools. We'll slow the virus, but also reduce capacity at hospitals (is the basic premise).

There is also concern about how many kids would be left with older relatives (grandma) to mind them where schools are shut.

To be clear, not arguing that schools shouldn't be shut, only that there are some cogent arguments to consider. Just that this Muppet isn't making them.

 

[sun rise]

No as parents still need to educate their children regarding who to have sex with and why.

That was a joke.

 

[dfnj]

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"March 19, 2020

Kansas City, Missouri Health Director Rex Archer doesn’t agree with the mandate to shut down all public schools in the wake of the COVID-19 outbreak. He says there were no reported cases of the virus infecting anyone in the area (though very few people have even been tested), and that closing the schools would create a host of other problems.

Like kids having sex.

“There is no evidence that closing a school will slow down this outbreak one bit,” Kansas City Health Director Rex Archer said.

Archer told a gathering of city council members and Mayor Quinton Lucas on Monday that closing schools can cause far more problems than it solves.

“We know that if you close schools teenage pregnancy rates go up and the potential of violence increases,” Archer said, without offering any evidence.
​

I can’t wait for this guy to learn about summer vacation…

It’s ironic that Archer says there’s “no evidence” that quarantines will prevent the spread of the virus — there’s plenty of evidence — when there’s actually no evidence that shutting down schools will make the problem worse. Evidence, it seems, is only relevant for him when it supports his agenda.
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Sheesh!

I did not know Kansas was like West Virginia!

Is it really a big deal the schools are closed. It's not like the people of Kansas were into embracing science to begin with.

 

[dfnj]

When did schools become prophylactics?

Just the way the teachers look is enough to shut down everyone's desires.

 

[Skwim]

I did not know Kansas was like West Virginia!

Well, it is Kansas City, Missouri, not Kansas City, Kansas.

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