Kardashev scale

[Nakosis]

The Kardashev scale is a method of measuring a civilization's level of technological advancement based on the amount of energy it is able to use. The measure was proposed by Soviet astronomer Nikolai Kardashev in 1964.
The scale is hypothetical, and regards energy consumption on a cosmic scale. Various extensions of the scale have since been proposed, including a wider range of power levels (types 0, IV through VI) and the use of metrics other than pure power.
Kardashev scale - Wikipedia

Interesting concept I happened across.

So for the continue survival of human kind we need to make use of all available energy on the planet, and expand that out to the solar system and beyond. Civilization needs energy to survive.

A Type I civilization, also called a planetary civilization, can use and store all of the energy available on its planet.
A Type II civilization, also called a stellar civilization, can use and control energy at the scale of its planetary system.
A Type III civilization, also called a galactic civilization, can control energy at the scale of its entire host galaxy.

Do you think the production of energy is a paramount need for our survival?

Currently earth is somewhere between Type 0 and I. They expect it'll take about another 100 years before earth becomes a type I civilization. Sucking all possible energy out of the planet.

 

[JustGeorge]

Do you think the production of energy is a paramount need for our survival?

No. We survived before energy production, we could do it again.

There would be some hiccups along the way, and some lives would likely be lost initially. Life expectancy may drop without the means to utilize medical facilities and produce medication in the same way, but the species as a whole could survive.

 

[Audie]

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The Kardashev scale is a method of measuring a civilization's level of technological advancement based on the amount of energy it is able to use. The measure was proposed by Soviet astronomer Nikolai Kardashev in 1964.
The scale is hypothetical, and regards energy consumption on a cosmic scale. Various extensions of the scale have since been proposed, including a wider range of power levels (types 0, IV through VI) and the use of metrics other than pure power.
Kardashev scale - Wikipedia

Interesting concept I happened across.

So for the continue survival of human kind we need to make use of all available energy on the planet, and expand that out to the solar system and beyond. Civilization needs energy to survive.

A Type I civilization, also called a planetary civilization, can use and store all of the energy available on its planet.
A Type II civilization, also called a stellar civilization, can use and control energy at the scale of its planetary system.
A Type III civilization, also called a galactic civilization, can control energy at the scale of its entire host galaxy.

Do you think the production of energy is a paramount need for our survival?

Currently earth is somewhere between Type 0 and I. They expect it'll take about another 100 years before earth becomes a type I civilization. Sucking all possible energy out of the planet.

Cutting waste would help

 

[robocop (actually)]

The Kardashev scale is a method of measuring a civilization's level of technological advancement based on the amount of energy it is able to use. The measure was proposed by Soviet astronomer Nikolai Kardashev in 1964.
The scale is hypothetical, and regards energy consumption on a cosmic scale. Various extensions of the scale have since been proposed, including a wider range of power levels (types 0, IV through VI) and the use of metrics other than pure power.
Kardashev scale - Wikipedia

Interesting concept I happened across.

So for the continue survival of human kind we need to make use of all available energy on the planet, and expand that out to the solar system and beyond. Civilization needs energy to survive.

A Type I civilization, also called a planetary civilization, can use and store all of the energy available on its planet.
A Type II civilization, also called a stellar civilization, can use and control energy at the scale of its planetary system.
A Type III civilization, also called a galactic civilization, can control energy at the scale of its entire host galaxy.

Do you think the production of energy is a paramount need for our survival?

Currently earth is somewhere between Type 0 and I. They expect it'll take about another 100 years before earth becomes a type I civilization. Sucking all possible energy out of the planet.

Don't forget Type IV controlling matter and Type V controlling the Universe like God, theoretical types.

 

[sun rise]

I don't buy the premise of the Kardashev scale. It ignores efficiency. The watch on my wrist is more powerful than a room full of tube computers, for example and uses orders of magnitude less energy at the same time. Incandescent light bulbs used seriously more electricity than today's LED ones.

 

[Heyo]

I don't buy the premise of the Kardashev scale.

That's because you try to use it for a purpose it wasn't intended for.
It doesn't recognise efficiency nor application because those tend to average out and the scale measures potential anyway. When you detect a type II civilisation (while being below II) you know not to mess with them, no matter how efficient you are and they are not.

 

[`mud]

Too many jet planes, and way too many spirits exploding in vehicles of all sorts.

 

[Aletheia Athanatos]

Do you think the production of energy is a paramount need for our survival?

Would you consider an emulation of a human mind living in a simulated world hosted on an adiabatic computer to be part of "us" ?

 

[Nakosis]

Would you consider an emulation of a human mind living in a simulated world hosted on an adiabatic computer to be part of "us" ?

I suspect humans could. More important is whether the simulated consider itself as belonging to us.