Kent Hovind, PhD - his "thesis" is online

[OmarKhayyam]

The illustrious Dr. Dino (now a guest of the US Federal Bureau of Prisons) has posted his doctoral thesis.

Aside from the religious nonsense it contains the most striking thing about it is how to fails to meet ANY accepted standards of scholarship.

"Creation scientist" indeed.

 

[Smoke]

It makes fascinating reading. It reads like something written by a twelve-year-old who has been homeschooled by fundamentalists, but it's an interesting look into the mind of Hovind, who sees evolution, atheism, Eastern religions, communism, secularism, and anything else he dislikes as all being part of one great Satanic plot.

He even includes a poem he wrote, which ends like this:

When you get to Heaven (or Hell if you please)
you'll understand God as you fall on your knees!
I wish you could see Him or hear Him somehow.
But that isn't possible where you are now.
To deny His existence is really absurd.
You'll have to believe Him and trust in His Word.

A small sampling of this masterpiece:

Hinduism became very popular around 600 B.C. It probably began many years before that. This religion is broken up into four branches. Vedanta is the most popular branch. It teaches that the universe is a living soul. Sikhism is another branch that began around 1500 A.D. Janism is a branch of Hinduism that says that there is no god at all. Janism teaches the doctrine of Karma. This is a system of reincarnation where people are constantly being born back as a different creature depending upon how they lived in this world. The final stage of this reincarnation is Nirvana, which is annihilation and you finally get to stop coming back. You just cease to exist. The fourth branch is called Sankhya which is also atheistic.

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Zoroaster was the religion of the Persians that developed around 600 B.C. Darius and Cyrus, who were both mentioned in the Bible, were followers of Zoroaster. It is possible that the wise men who came to Bethlehem were of this cult. There is no way to prove this for certain. This religion believed that Satan and God were equally powerful, thereby, limiting God. This shows that they did not have the right view of God in their theology.

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It [Buddhism] had a very rigid system of Karma, which was a cause/affect system.

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Taoism teaches that nature is bi-polar. All of nature is divided into yin and yang.

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Lamarck died in poverty and was unwanted when he died.

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The New Age movement is nothing more than the old rebellion against God and the belief in evolution, with a little Hindu and Buddhist religion mixed in with it.

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In the mid 1850's there was a revival of the Buddhist cult. It was co-founded by Colonel H. S. Olcott. The goal of this was to unify the Buddhist. The name of this revival was Theosophy. The Theosophy cult was also founded by Madam Helena Blavatsky.

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It was Shintoism, based on evolution, that was responsible for Japan's actions in World War II They were determined to take over and rule the world, just like Hitler was doing in Germany. Both of them were motivated by a desire to help evolution along.

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Many say "We can't mix religion and the public schools." In the first place, that is a faulty argument. The public schools desperately need some religion.

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Teaching our young people that we evolved from monkeys in hindering the religion of Christianity. It's causing them to doubt their faith, and it needs to be eliminated.

 

[YmirGF]

I started to read his essay, but realized I need a full bottle of Scotch to tackle such a project, so it will have to wait.

 

[Metempsychosis]

Hinduism became very popular around 600 B.C. It probably began many years before that.

This religion is broken up into four branches.

It teaches that the universe is a living soul.

* * * * *The fourth branch is called Sankhya which is also atheistic.* * *

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It [Buddhism] had a very rigid system of Karma, which was a cause/affect system.

Christianity which he follow seems to be least dogmatic.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

If that managed to pass as a thesis for a doctorates, I would hate to see the curriculum of such a university. When an undergraduate can point out a lists of errors, something is not right.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

It wasn't a university. It's a paper mill.

 

[Smoke]

If that managed to pass as a thesis for a doctorates, I would hate to see the curriculum of such a university. When an undergraduate can point out a lists of errors, something is not right.

This is a pic of the university that granted Hovind his doctorate. Formerly Patriot University, it's now called Patriot Bible University.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

haha

I've read hundreds of dissertations, and this is the first one I've seen that opens with "Hello, my name is..."

What a farce.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I compared this with Southampton's University's guide, "Writing your Dissertation" and Hovind's certainly does not match any of the criteria needed for a properly planned, written, and reviewed dissertation.

I would take that most people would be terribly embarrassed to produce such a work as a final draft. It barely looks like a first draft's overview still in it's initial idea phase.

Wonder how long it took Hovind to write this particular piece out?

 

[Sunstone]

This is a pic of the university that granted Hovind his doctorate. Formerly Patriot University, it's now called Patriot Bible University.

I do believe that is a double-wide trailer. I'm impressed. Not at all like those cheap universities you find housed in single-wides.

 

[Twilight Hue]

This is a pic of the university that granted Hovind his doctorate. Formerly Patriot University, it's now called Patriot Bible University.

Love to see the floor plan. One room to count the money and another to print out all the "degrees" to their "graduates". Reminds me of Chris Elliot in, "Get a Life" during the episode where he went to modeling school. At least the latter had classes. Patriot likes to call it "Distance Learning Bible Degrees" Suppose it saves a ton on overhead and facility.

 

[Twilight Hue]

If that managed to pass as a thesis for a doctorates, I would hate to see the curriculum of such a university. When an undergraduate can point out a lists of errors, something is not right.

One look is worth a thousand..........http://www.patriotuniversity.org/

Each course includes a 200-300 page textbook accompanied by a colorful workbook ???!!!??? :cover:

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Love to see the floor plan. One room to count the money and another to print out all the "degrees" to their "graduates". Reminds me of Chris Elliot in, "Get a Life" during the episode where he went to modeling school. At least the latter had classes. Patriot likes to call it "Distance Learning Bible Degrees" Suppose it saves a ton on overhead and facility.

hahaha

This is just silly.

 

[Twilight Hue]

hahaha

This is just silly.

Oh! Oh! Nailed on a typo.
Allow me to correct the error of my ways. Facility to Faculty!

There. all better now.

 

[Autodidact]

Actually I found it fascinating. Basically it collects in a single place all the anti-evolution arguments I encounter on-line, every facile, juvenile, error-filled, fallacious, misinformed, illogical, anti-scientific argument. Anti-evolutionists seem to have made no progress whatsoever in their thinking. Basically they could cut and paste from Hovind's thesis and save themselves a lot of trouble.

 

[Nepenthe]

It makes fascinating reading. It reads like something written by a twelve-year-old who has been homeschooled by fundamentalists, but it's an interesting look into the mind of Hovind, who sees evolution, atheism, Eastern religions, communism, secularism, and anything else he dislikes as all being part of one great Satanic plot.

It is fascinating. I read it a few days ago, and while I knew it came from a degree mill, the thing that strikes me is that I've been undecided as to whether creationists are liars, stupid, or if they truly believe in their delusions- or all of the above. Hovind's paper is a testament to just how sincere he is and how irreconcilable his faith is with science; he simply cannot reconcile evidence and facts with reality. Creationists are incompetent and delusional. Anything that contradicts their dogma is going to automatically be false; their cognitive dissonance allows them to write junior high school level "dissertations" and convince themselves they're overthrowing the scientific concensus.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

It is fascinating. I read it a few days ago, and while I knew it came from a degree mill, the thing that strikes me is that I've been undecided as to whether creationists are liars, stupid, or if they truly believe in their delusions- or all of the above. Hovind's paper is a testament to just how sincere he is and how irreconcilable his faith is with science; he simply cannot reconcile evidence and facts with reality. Creationists are incompetent and delusional. Anything that contradicts their dogma is going to automatically be false; their cognitive dissonance allows them to write junior high school level "dissertations" and convince themselves they're overthrowing the scientific concensus.

Not only can he not reconcile his faith with science - he hasn't even reviewed scientific facts OR deeply reflected on his faith.

His dissertation is a complete farce.

 

[Man of Faith]

Thanks for that document, it is good. Kent has a great point in that common descent is not observable, therefore is not science and shouldn't be taught in a science class. It should be taught in a religion class along with other religions. He also lays out a good case for a young earth starting on page 89, using science of all things.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

He also lays out a good case for a young earth starting on page 89, using science of all things.

There simply is no good case for young earth. The fossil record, dinosaurs, mass extinctions, Pangaea, and even some very ancient human artifacts all point towards a very old earth.

 

[YmirGF]

Thanks for that document, it is good. Kent has a great point in that common descent is not observable, therefore is not science and shouldn't be taught in a science class. It should be taught in a religion class along with other religions. He also lays out a good case for a young earth starting on page 89, using science of all things.

I love religious folks with a sense of humor and your comments certainly got me laughing. :yes: