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KILL EVERYBODY: American soldier exposes US policy in Iraq

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Hello everybody .

I want to share this video about a soldier experience and opinions about Iraq war and 9/11 ,it's very interesting and shocking how expose some of his experience in Iraq.

how match you believe he was talking about facts ?

Why there is no investigation about Iraq war case?

KILL EVERYBODY: American soldier exposes US policy in Iraq
 

Acim

Revelation all the time
how match you believe he was talking about facts ?

Not much. But enough that I think it matters to at least consider this other perspective than to presume infallibility. IMO, this goes for both/all sides of the equation. As in "innocent Muslims" don't deserve full pass because some Muslim propagandists wish to spin things that way. Likewise, the notion that U.S. soldiers are always noble and never acting with bad intentions is foolish to think that isn't purely propaganda speaking.

Why there is no investigation about Iraq war case?

Because of desire to maintain status quo. As implied above, I believe it occurs on both (all) sides.

Like many things, it comes down to who watches the watchers? And who then determines how fair their bias is in doing so? Seems obvious that if 'our' side does anything wrong, that is to be swept under the rug as not all that bad, but if the other guys do anything wrong that is to be hyped up as hugest mountain ever, when quite plausibly it is teeny tiny molehill.
 

buddhist

Well-Known Member
On a separate but related note: This thread made me wonder where all the leftist anti-war people disappeared to; they protested Bush's wars, I don't hear them out protesting 0bama's wars.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
On a separate but related note: This thread made me wonder where all the leftist anti-war people disappeared to; they protested Bush's wars, I don't hear them out protesting 0bama's wars.
Maybe because it's become aircraft war , not on ground in general ?

and maybe because Saudi and Qataris whom paid ?
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
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how match you believe he was talking about facts ?
It is possible.....
In the UK our prime minister wants to make it more difficult for complaints to be made against our soldiers and forces from that war.

War is just hell on earth, Godobeyer, whoever is doing the bad things.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
On a separate but related note: This thread made me wonder where all the leftist anti-war people disappeared to; they protested Bush's wars, I don't hear them out protesting 0bama's wars.
They never do. Look at Hillary's hand in war.

Somehow they see the same thing as being different. Go figure.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
It is possible.....
In the UK our prime minister wants to make it more difficult for complaints to be made against our soldiers and forces from that war.

War is just hell on earth, Godobeyer, whoever is doing the bad things.
How about now and future , Why Obama insist to involve in Syria?
and How about Trump which he probably will destroy Iran if he win. and involve more in Syria.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Maybe because it's become aircraft war , not on ground in general ?

and maybe because Saudi and Qataris whom paid ?
Those are certainly important if hypocritical factors.

Americans tend to care a lot more about losses if they include American lives. Not so much when they are Middle Easterners.

Personally, I find drone wars and air bombings inherently shameful and morally indefensable.

Bad as having boots on the ground is, that war by remote control is far worse - not least because it gives the radicals all the evidence they might conceivably need to further their discourse.
 

Britedream

Active Member
I believe war is war, it is hard to hold morals, to me to single out the American is unrealistic. I never saw a war that is an ideal one, not in my life.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
I believe that "Shoot them all, let God sort them out!" was first a Christian thing. But the Muslims picked up on it pretty quickly.
Tom
 

Kuzcotopia

If you can read this, you are as lucky as I am.
They never do. Look at Hillary's hand in war.

Somehow they see the same thing as being different. Go figure.

No we don't. Hillary's hawkish stance is the thing I like the least about her.

Give me a half-way decent candidate on the right. . . I might have voted against her.

Plus, Sanders didn't win the primary.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
On a separate but related note: This thread made me wonder where all the leftist anti-war people disappeared to; they protested Bush's wars, I don't hear them out protesting 0bama's wars.

Yeah, I notice that the sentiment shifted across the isle depending on what party was in power. It's just people placing partisanship before principles.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Give me a half-way decent candidate on the right. . . I might have voted against her.
I could easily imagine circumstances under which I would have supported Kasich. Possibly Rubio or even Bush.
Absolutely not Cruz.
Trump isn't even a republican.
Tom
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
If policy were to kill everybody, they're sure doing a lame job.
Perhaps one person's opinion is wrong, eh?
 
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