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Killing for your country

waitasec

Veteran Member
who decides,
the follower or the leader?

the leader puts the follower in harms way and has to defend themself

if we are talking about war.
 

sandandfoam

Veteran Member
who decides,
the follower or the leader?

the leader puts the follower in harms way and has to defend themself

if we are talking about war.

According to Hitler the Germans were defending themselves when they invaded Poland. Were the Wehrmacht defending themselves as they moved East?
 
How should a person decide who it is acceptable to kill in the national interest?

Gee , I don't know, maybe when they make the declaration that they want to kill you?
I'm not talking about personally. I'm referencing those who adhere to your ideology, national or otherwise.
 

sandandfoam

Veteran Member
Gee , I don't know, maybe when they make the declaration that they want to kill you?
I'm not talking about personally. I'm referencing those who adhere to your ideology, national or otherwise.

The Republic of Ireland had a constitutional claim to the territory of Northern Ireland. Ideologically the Republic was opposed to Northern Ireland. Are you saying it was acceptable for people opposed to unity to kill in their national interest?
 
The Republic of Ireland had a constitutional claim to the territory of Northern Ireland. Ideologically the Republic was opposed to Northern Ireland. Are you saying it was acceptable for people opposed to unity to kill in their national interest?

That's terrorism.
I was talking about killing in a national conflict.
Resistance movements are more complicated.
 

Averroes

Active Member
First off people should stop sayong "me" this cpuntry ideally works off the collective. So your "me" is less than. 00000001% if even 40% of me's agree, your me is out voted so it really doesn't matter if you dont believe your cpuntry ahouldnt kill for you. I think if you're not politically invested or militarily invested such subjects shouldn't even be discussed.
 

Caladan

Agnostic Pantheist
How should a person decide who it is acceptable to kill in the national interest?
If only things where that clear cut. but national interest is simply one part. ideally I would say that its in the national interest to make terrorists vulnerable, and remind them how exposed they can be. however collateral damage has always been on the public debate and has influenced military measures and decisions inside the army. no army or public in today's develop world has been free from these dilemmas.
 

Averroes

Active Member
First off people should stop sayong "me" this cpuntry ideally works off the collective. So your "me" is less than. 00000001% if even 40% of me's agree, your me is out voted so it really doesn't matter if you dont believe your cpuntry ahouldnt kill for you. I think if you're not politically invested or militarily invested such subjects shouldn't even be discussed.


I must've been drunk when I wrote this. Soooooo many typos
 

esmith

Veteran Member
The question is vague. Are you asking the question as if you were a member of a nations military or as a civilian? If you are a voluntary member of the military and are placed in a hostile situation then I guess if you couldn't decide if the person attacking you should liver or die then just do nothing and let them decide if you should live or die. Remember, you volunteered to place yourself in this situation. If the draft was re-introduced and you were drafted then you have to determine if you will go where you are ordered or accept the consequences. If you go, then you would have the same problem as the person who volunteered. If you are a civilian and placed in a situation where you have life or death in you hands, you obviously accepted the situation.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
How should a person decide who it is acceptable to kill in the national interest?

If they have declared themselves the enemy of your country the decision is made for you,i think for Guys like anjem choudry it would be in the national interest to stick his head up his **** before giving him a swim in the English channel:

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But hey we aren't that gung ho,i think though that throughout history there have been assasinations carried out in the national interest by most nations.
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
I would only kill if it was necessary for myself and my family. If this happened to coincide with the interests of the country, then that's fine.
 
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