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Thank the gods I'm an atheist
Not an answer to my question.
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Lack of belief in gods.
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RedDragon94
Love everyone, meditate often
I view philosophy and religion as separate. Religion = theology while philosophy is neutral.
RedDragon94
Love everyone, meditate often
I said yes.
Curious George
Veteran Member
By the etymology we are discussing a belief. Specifically a not-god belief. We are not discussing a not-belief in god.
Curious George
Veteran Member
So you agree you can define god?"You can entertain that of someone who does not believe that the proposition god exists is true and doesn't believe the proposition god does not exist is true. "
More nonsense I see. . . .
"Does god exist?"
Let me put on some of my many hats for you:
God exist
God does not exist
I am undecided if God exist
God may or may not exist.
Some Gods exist and some don't.
I don't care one way or another.
There are so many variation, and I am sorry if you are simply not cable of such mental flexibility.
Jeremiahcp
Well-Known Jerk
I never said they were the same thing. They are just similar in many respects.
Jeremiahcp
Well-Known Jerk
I could define gods in many ways.
Watch:
God is a giant turkey!
Now from that please tell me what my beliefs about gods actually are.
RedDragon94
Love everyone, meditate often
Okay, how do you approach Philosophy?
Curious George
Veteran Member
Yes, but you have a definition for god. You do not hold that god can not be defined is true.
Jeremiahcp
Well-Known Jerk
More often religion is based on the assumption of transcendent wisdom. While more often philosophy is based on human wisdom.
Jeremiahcp
Well-Known Jerk
You really have no clue what my actual position on this god deal is.
God is a toaster!
Maybe you should stop assuming you can read minds.
RedDragon94
Love everyone, meditate often
So how is human wisdom limited when we can investigate anything for ourselves and come to our own conclusions?
Curious George
Veteran Member
Apparently you think God is a turkey. Which means that the conversation regarding gods existence is something that we would have to modify in order to have a discussion. I certainly agree turkeys exist, and I agree some could be called giant. I do not think a turkey is a god or a god is a turkey. So, there is the disconnect.
Curious George
Veteran Member
In order to have any of those positions except for "I don't know..." then you would need to be able to define god.
Jeremiahcp
Well-Known Jerk
Oh human wisdom is very limited in the fact it can be incomplete and wrong. Remember I said, "it's overly abstract and subjective", and I have found that one of the most common errors in philosophy is the assumption that a rationally sound conclusion must be true. Too often philosophers do not take that extra step from hypothesizing to actually proving their position scientifically.
Jeremiahcp
Well-Known Jerk
What is this god deal you keep going on about?
Jeremiahcp
Well-Known Jerk
Cephus
Relentlessly Rational
Just him and his imaginary friend.
RedDragon94
Love everyone, meditate often
I know it's not perfect, but I do think it's a big step away from religion. The only time when it's abstract and subjective is when it has no connection to the physical world. Fideism is hard to understand because it's like air, you just hope it's there as opposed to earthy, organic philosophy.
Jeremiahcp
Well-Known Jerk
I agree it is a big improvement over religion, but it is even better when joined with science. Science is after all the brain child of philosophy, and I consider them two halves of a whole.