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Lack of Knowledge

huajiro

Well-Known Member
Does a person like myself's lack of specific knowledge about religion bother you? Please explain this in great detail.
 

jewscout

Religious Zionist
huajiro said:
Does a person like myself's lack of specific knowledge about religion bother you? Please explain this in great detail.
Nope just so long as you're willing to open your mind to the different possiblities.

JS
 

cardero

Citizen Mod
huajiro writes: Does a person like myself's lack of specific knowledge about religion bother you? Please explain this in great detail.
I think in the case of specific religious knowledge ignorance can indeed BE bliss.
 

lilithu

The Devil's Advocate
huajiro said:
Does a person like myself's lack of specific knowledge about religion bother you? Please explain this in great detail.

Only if you intentionally claim to have knowledge that you don't have. Otherwise, why would it bother anyone?

Seriously, what makes you think that it might bother someone?
 

Lightkeeper

Well-Known Member
It doesn't bother me. We are all on a journey and learn at our own rate. We all have something to give. I study all religions, but the more I study the less I know.
 

Master Vigil

Well-Known Member
I think it is absolutely normal for people to be ignorant when it comes to religion. I think the majority of people in all religions are ignorant at least in part to their religion. So it doesn't bother me at all. You're like the rest of us.
 

Feathers in Hair

World's Tallest Hobbit
Lightkeeper said:
I study all religions, but the more I study the less I know.
Curse you, Lightkeeper, for stealing my thoughts! (Apparently, my tinfoil hat isn't working.) :) I quite agree with you there.

If anyone believes that someone else 'lacks' knowledge and then isn't willing to happily explain something, or thinks that this reflects poorly on the other person... Well, that just proves that they're ultimately more ignorant than the other person.
 

lilithu

The Devil's Advocate
Master Vigil said:
I think it is absolutely normal for people to be ignorant when it comes to religion. I think the majority of people in all religions are ignorant at least in part to their religion. So it doesn't bother me at all. You're like the rest of us.

Not only are most people ignorant of at least part of their religion, it's also the case that everyone is ignorant of usually most of someone else's religion. Someone may be an "expert" at Judaism but know nothing about Taoism. So, relatively speaking, we're all in the same boat.
 

Master Vigil

Well-Known Member
lilithu said:
Not only are most people ignorant of at least part of their religion, it's also the case that everyone is ignorant of usually most of someone else's religion. Someone may be an "expert" at Judaism but know nothing about Taoism. So, relatively speaking, we're all in the same boat.
Exactly. And it is from this ignorance that hatred and disrespect arises between the two.
 

lilithu

The Devil's Advocate
SoulTYPE01 said:
Trust me lilith, it does bother people. I know this from experience..
I am sorry to hear that. :( I hope it doesn't happen often.
What is it that they think you should know?
 

cardero

Citizen Mod
huajiro, BEing ignorant of a certain subject is not something that should concern you. Mrscarrdero purposefully avoids the religious and Blblical discussion parts of this forum. She honestly is not interested in participating in these topics. Religion if it is something that you do not want to K(NOW) is not important in how we perceive and accept you. If it is something that you want to understand I would say that this is a nice place to begin. There are also internet sources available to educate you. If you decide that religion is not a subject that would BE interesting enough for you to pursue (after all no one says you have to K(NOW) everything) I am sure that there are many things that we do not K(NOW) that you do and can share with us. In other words you are an integral part of the Religious Forums community no matter what knowledge you have or do not have.
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
Lack of knowledge is no problem, there are thousands of religions out there if not more. The only way to learn is to ask questions. My only problem comes when people who do not know a specific religion clame to know its truth or falceness or docterine. Such as a post once uppon a time in the Native American forum that said that the White Buffalo was really Jesus. Now how you go from White Buffalo Woman to a Jewish Man, I'm not shure, but they obviously didn't know about the actual story. ;)

Hell, I doubt any of us know ALL the specifics of our religions yet. :jiggy:

wa:do
 

huajiro

Well-Known Member
lilithu said:
Only if you intentionally claim to have knowledge that you don't have. Otherwise, why would it bother anyone?

Seriously, what makes you think that it might bother someone?
Just curious, as I base everything on my own experience. I seem to be the least knowledgeable when it comes to the actual teachings. I have studied the different "Bibles", but could not quote specific scriptures.
 

lilithu

The Devil's Advocate
huajiro said:
Just curious, as I base everything on my own experience. I seem to be the least knowledgeable when it comes to the actual teachings. I have studied the different "Bibles", but could not quote specific scriptures.

There are four sources for spiritual authority (what makes something true):
scripture
tradition
reason
experience

Some people prefer one or two over the others. By my definition of religion, you aren't religious if you completely reject scripture/tradition, because I define religion as something that is done in community. But anyone can definately still be spiritual on their own. In fact, sometimes religion gets in the way of spirituality, imo.

It doesn't seem to me tho that you have completely rejected scripture; it's just not all that important to you. And that's fine. You choose experience as the primary source of spiritual authority.
 

huajiro

Well-Known Member
lilithu said:
There are four sources for spiritual authority (what makes something true):
scripture
tradition
reason
experience

Some people prefer one or two over the others. By my definition of religion, you aren't religious if you completely reject scripture/tradition, because I define religion as something that is done in community. But anyone can definately still be spiritual on their own. In fact, sometimes religion gets in the way of spirituality, imo.

It doesn't seem to me tho that you have completely rejected scripture; it's just not all that important to you. And that's fine. You choose experience as the primary source of spiritual authority.
Would I be considered spiritual then?
 

lilithu

The Devil's Advocate
huajiro said:
Would I be considered spiritual then?
Ultimately, I can't answer that question for you. But you seem spiritual to me from things you've written in your posts. I think that caring about the suffering of others and showing compassion is highly spiritual. It may be the most important thing of all, as far as I am concerned.

I don't know whether you believe in God, but in my view, one doesn't need to believe in something transcendant from the world to be spiritual. For me, being spiritual is caring about a higher truth than oneself. Whether that truth is God or the welfare of the rest of creation doesn't matter.
 

Runt

Well-Known Member
None of us are experts on religion. Some may have more knowledge than others, but all of us have more to learn. Therefore, it is not right for any of us to condemn others for a problem that we share (i.e. not knowing something).

It can, however, irritate me if people who clearly don't know about something pretend that they do. But luckily, most people stick to commentary on what they know best, and ask questions about everything else!
 

huajiro

Well-Known Member
lilithu said:
Ultimately, I can't answer that question for you. But you seem spiritual to me from things you've written in your posts. I think that caring about the suffering of others and showing compassion is highly spiritual. It may be the most important thing of all, as far as I am concerned.

I don't know whether you believe in God, but in my view, one doesn't need to believe in something transcendant from the world to be spiritual. For me, being spiritual is caring about a higher truth than oneself. Whether that truth is God or the welfare of the rest of creation doesn't matter.
Very true, very true
 
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