Lawyer sends warning to GOP election officials with plans to refuse results

[Riders]

'Now is the time to resign': Lawyer sends warning to GOP election officials with plans to refuse results

This has been mentioned in other threads, but I thought I would start one dealing with just this issue. I want to make sure everyone is aware of this possibility and knows that just as there are those already planning to subvert democracy, there are also those who are already making plans to defend it.

And I have a suggestion. If this concerns you, consider who you are voting for. Are you voting for someone who will defend democracy? Or are you voting for someone who will use tricks to subvert the will of the people. And this is not just about who you are voting for President, this is about who you are voting for in Congress, House and Senate, and Federal and State, and who you are going to vote for for Governor.

Right thats why Im voting Democrat.

 

[Heyo]

'Now is the time to resign': Lawyer sends warning to GOP election officials with plans to refuse results

This has been mentioned in other threads, but I thought I would start one dealing with just this issue. I want to make sure everyone is aware of this possibility and knows that just as there are those already planning to subvert democracy, there are also those who are already making plans to defend it.

And I have a suggestion. If this concerns you, consider who you are voting for. Are you voting for someone who will defend democracy? Or are you voting for someone who will use tricks to subvert the will of the people. And this is not just about who you are voting for President, this is about who you are voting for in Congress, House and Senate, and Federal and State, and who you are going to vote for for Governor.

Maybe it would help if the UN would send election observers like they do with other failing democracies?

 

[Twilight Hue]

That’s an insult to people who shed blood for the benefit of a nation. Trump getting shot at while making another BS speech hardly qualifies as ‘for his country’. He’s an (injured ear) martyr for the worst side of America, the bull****, lies, misogyny, ignorance, bigotry and predation he represents.

Nope. He shed his blood same as any person in the service of one's country had, and is now in the distinguished honored line of president's whom have been shot and shed blood in the past serving this country.

 

[Tomef]

Nope. He shed his blood same as any person in the service of one's country had, and is now in the distinguished honored line of president's whom have been shot and shed blood in the past serving this country.

Given what he has often and openly said about his motives for seeking the presidency, it’s difficult to see how that can be confused with service. He spent more than half of his time as president doing personal stuff - ranting on twitter, fuming at the TV, making business calls. He spent less time on presidential duties than any other president since anyone starting keeping records of these things. This kind of stuff can be easily checked, yet a lot of Trump voters cling to this fantasy notion of him ‘fighting for America’ or some such. It’s strange to the point of being delusional, Trump is interested in Trump, voters are useful as long as they serve that interest only.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Whatever makes you sleep at night. 14+ million people voted for Biden to be the nominee. Why have that process if it does not matter?

What would you have done if Biden died? Resurrect him for the sake of "democracy?"

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Yes, I am voting for Trump to defend our democracy.

Not for Harris and a party that it's elites ousted the elected nominee because he could not win by the party members in a primary, then installed Harris as the nominee without any debate or discussion, Bidens donations transferred to her all within 48 hours then delegates polled by the party on zoom or email with no debate or challenger that will get her the nomination. This may be legal but it is not a democratic process.

The dems need to stop lecturing everyone on what democracy is and isn't.

Really, what can one say but

 

[Tomef]

Yes, I am voting for Trump to defend our democracy.

Not for Harris and a party that it's elites ousted the elected nominee because he could not win by the party members in a primary, then installed Harris as the nominee without any debate or discussion, Bidens donations transferred to her all within 48 hours then delegates polled by the party on zoom or email with no debate or challenger that will get her the nomination. This may be legal but it is not a democratic process.

The dems need to stop lecturing everyone on what democracy is and isn't.

There’s a basic process for choosing a nominee in this circumstance. Anyone can put themselves forward, but they need a minimum number of backers. No-one else got the required number. As to why you don’t think an online vote is democratic, god only knows. What prevents you from just checking basic things like that? Where do you get this idiot information from?

 

[Pogo]

There’s a basic process for choosing a nominee in this circumstance. Anyone can put themselves forward, but they need a minimum number of backers. No-one else got the required number. As to why you don’t think an online vote is democratic, god only knows. What prevents you from just checking basic things like that? Where do you get this idiot information from?

What I am wondering this morning is what do all the Republicans who voted for candidates think about how tRump got to be the nominee? They didn't vote for him and after the other candidates dropped out they were not asked if they wanted to vote for the candidate that was recommended etc. etc. but here we have a few that think something nefarious is going on when I wonder if the Republicans even went through the convention of multiple ballots at their convention.

A really good example of people arguing about something they know nothing about but are sure it doesn't work that way.

 

[Tomef]

What I am wondering this morning is what do all the Republicans who voted for candidates think about how tRump got to be the nominee? They didn't vote for him and after the other candidates dropped out they were not asked if they wanted to vote for the candidate that was recommended etc. etc. but here we have a few that think something nefarious is going on when I wonder if the Republicans even went through the convention of multiple ballots at their convention.

A really good example of people arguing about something they know nothing about but are sure it doesn't work that way.

Whenever I take a look at the media popular with Trumpers I both get it and don’t. I mean, I can see where the dumbness comes from, there are TV personalities and writers basically all saying the same things, just spouting their random notions about this or that without any meaningful attempt to provide some sort of basis for them. It’s like a continual whirlwind of bull****. I suppose the question is though, does the crappy news make people stupid, or is it the other way around?

 

[wellwisher]

Irony given Trump was directly involved in the conspiracy around Jan 6. He's been indicted, and if he doesn't win the election, then he's facing trial.

But go ahed and explain why you think Trump would defend democracy.

Biden dropped out because he realized he was not as sharp as he once was. Even you conservatives have been saying this, and democrats agreed. Now there's a new candidate. Deal with it. And enjoy your old candidate with mental health issues.

A Democratic process does not coronate, via a Cabal of insiders. Rather a real Democratic process will have debates and run primaries for a new candidates. Lie and cheat and coronate asn then lie some more is not the Democratic way. But then again the swamp is disparate, since if Trump wins, he can do onto them, as they did onto him. Nancy Pelosi can be jailed for insider trading by a jury of angry Republicans. You guys made that legal with your loopholes.

Once Trump is elected the truth of Jan 6 will come out. The coverup will end. The Supreme Court has already ruled for the release of hundreds due to the excessive jailing of by-standings, that the DNC crooks used to enhance their illusion. These people will be able to sue the DNC and otiose involved will take their place in jail as restitution. Once the weasels get some pressure they will stab each other in the back, like Harris did to Biden. Whatever happened to loyalty? You guys want a back stabber for president? Trump had many loyal followers put in jail for refusing to lie for the DNC, since truth was not helping the DNC with the law fare. That is another option open to Trump.

There was a huge rip off to the COVID fund that will require dealing with DNC donors. The crooks have dug a deep hole and are so desperate to avoid justice, they have become unjust and a real threat to Democracy.

The Great Grift: How billions in COVID-19 relief aid was stolen or wasted

Trump can also expand DEI, but in this case plant Republican operatives in all DNC contaminated Agencies. There are not enough reglious people represented in these jobs. We need to diversify with those whom the DNC has targeted; equity.

 

[Tomef]

Rather a real Democratic process will have debates and run primaries for a new candidates.

Why? What a ridiculous notion. On what basis do you think this should be the case? Anywhere in the developed world, when the leader of a party steps down for some reason, they don’t go back to square one and start the whole process again. Deputies, MPs, or whatever the term is in the given country, choose from whoever among them nominates themselves and gets enough backers to be considered. It is simply idiotic to just make things up as if they provide a basis for an argument. Give me one example of a developed country where the removal of a PM, president or other top official during their term led to a whole new election campaign. And why should it? What do you imagine is somehow more democratic in having new primaries?

‘lie and cheat and coronate’?? For god’s sake, what are you, some sort of idiot child? How is it that you are unable to engage in adult conversation?

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

She is likley the nominee, and has massive support with a huge amount of enthusiam by the voters. It's bad luck for Don. Maybe he shouldn't have been attacking Biden's age and been trying to promote a sound agenda instead. Trump just isn't that smart. At least he will face criminal jeopardy which is our nation's commitment to law and order.

Doesn't answer my question.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

So if he was assassinated right now should we have a run off vote right now to elect a new democratic president instead of having Harris replace him? She was elected as much as he was to the presidency. I just haven't heard a single democrat be upset by this. I'm also not a democrat. Probably will vote for Harris for clarity purposes though. But we will not agree on this. In your world you would rather have a scramble mishandled election process after he dropped. Or actually you would probably rather have Biden stay in. Both are terrible options for Democrats and anyone who doesn't want Trump to win which is the #1 main motivator for 53% of the voting electorate.

Harris was not elected as president. But that does not matter she received zero votes in the primary, Biden received enough to become the nominee. I would do a runoff primary of some sort so people in the dem party could have a say in who was their nominee since Biden was kicked out. To make it clear Biden did not decide to drop out he was forced to by the dem elites and donors because they thought he could not win. And installed Harris without any kind of democratic process for their party. So my question is why wouldn't they do this again if it looks like she cannot win?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Harris was not elected as president. But that does not matter she received zero votes in the primary, Biden received enough to become the nominee. I would do a runoff primary of some sort so people in the dem party could have a say in who was their nominee since Biden was kicked out. To make it clear Biden did not decide to drop out he was forced to by the dem elites and donors because they thought he could not win. And installed Harris without any kind of democratic process for their party. So my question is why wouldn't they do this again if it looks like she cannot win?

Well, it is politics. Now I get how it can be considered morally wrong, but if it is against any law, then which one is it?

 

[F1fan]

A Democratic process does not coronate, via a Cabal of insiders. Rather a real Democratic process will have debates

Yup, we had one and neither won. Biden looked so bad that he decided to drop out. Now Trump is not committing to debating Harris. He looks bad, and old.

and run primaries for a new candidates. Lie and cheat and coronate asn then lie some more is not the Democratic way. But then again the swamp is disparate, since if Trump wins, he can do onto them, as they did onto him.

The political parties have a ot of leeway for how they select their nominees. It's Harris for the democrats. She was already on the ticket so no big deal. Of course republicans are scared now as Harris looks much better than Don Old.

Nancy Pelosi can be jailed for insider trading by a jury of angry Republicans. You guys made that legal with your loopholes.

This sounds like more MAGA nonsense.

Once Trump is elected the truth of Jan 6 will come out.

The truth is already out. Trump and many republicans are guilty of conspiracy for election fraud based on available evidence. Just got to wait for the trials.

The coverup will end. The Supreme Court has already ruled for the release of hundreds due to the excessive jailing of by-standings, that the DNC crooks used to enhance their illusion. These people will be able to sue the DNC and otiose involved will take their place in jail as restitution. Once the weasels get some pressure they will stab each other in the back, like Harris did to Biden. Whatever happened to loyalty? You guys want a back stabber for president? Trump had many loyal followers put in jail for refusing to lie for the DNC, since truth was not helping the DNC with the law fare. That is another option open to Trump.

Trump is corrupt and a liar. No one can trust any MAGAs. Look at the right wing disinformation you post. The well informed know it's all crap.

There was a huge rip off to the COVID fund that will require dealing with DNC donors. The crooks have dug a deep hole and are so desperate to avoid justice, they have become unjust and a real threat to Democracy.

The Great Grift: How billions in COVID-19 relief aid was stolen or wasted

Why are you going off on these tangents? Distraction? We need to worry about MAGAs committing election fraud again.

Trump can also expand DEI, but in this case plant Republican operatives in all DNC contaminated Agencies. There are not enough reglious people represented in these jobs. We need to diversify with those whom the DNC has targeted; equity.

Diversify with taller white guys, and shorter white guys, and heavier white guys, and thinner white guys? We know what MAGA is about.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

What would you have done if Biden died? Resurrect him for the sake of "democracy?"

Have another primary.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

What would you have done if Biden died? Resurrect him for the sake of "democracy?"

Have another primary.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

There’s a basic process for choosing a nominee in this circumstance. Anyone can put themselves forward, but they need a minimum number of backers. No-one else got the required number. As to why you don’t think an online vote is democratic, god only knows. What prevents you from just checking basic things like that? Where do you get this idiot information from?

They are only polling the delegates, not the people in the dem party. The delegates were voted by the public to vote for Biden not Harris. Why can't the left have a conversation without insults?

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Well, it is politics. Now I get how it can be considered morally wrong, but if it is against any law, then which one is it?

I never said it was against any law. The dems can do what they want but they need to stop saying how they are for democracy when their party elites chose their nominee.

 

[F1fan]

Doesn't answer my question.

Yeah, you surely don't like how Harris is gaining in the polls and enthusiasm, as Trump has makes more mistakes on stage.

Harris was not elected as president.

Right, she was elected vice president.

But that does not matter she received zero votes in the primary, Biden received enough to become the nominee.

They were both on the ticket. And the roll of a vp is to take over for the president. There's no real problem here except republicans are upset that they have a more viable opponent. Well, now it's republicans who have the weak candidate, so what are they going to do? Dump Trump or hold? Trump is still a joke candidate that republicans are taking seriously. The guy just wants to avoid prison at this point.

I would do a runoff primary of some sort so people in the dem party could have a say in who was their nominee since Biden was kicked out.

Why waste time and monet when Harris was already on the ticket? She was already selected as the backup.

To make it clear Biden did not decide to drop out he was forced to by the dem elites and donors because they thought he could not win.

When you say "forced out" that really means heavy pressure, not a gun to his head. Look how long it took to convince him, months. But he has stated that it was his decision, and republicans are trying to create a scandal. Sorry, deal with it. He decided to do the right thing. I thought him running for a second term was a bad idea from the start. I thought his decision to run again showed poor judgment. So now he's made the correct decision, finally. And democrats are doing well to focus on the vp as the new nominee, and the convention will surely confirm it.

And installed Harris without any kind of democratic process for their party. So my question is why wouldn't they do this again if it looks like she cannot win?

Installed? She moved up a notch. She was already on the ticket, so your desire to imply some nefarious plan here is laughable. And why would they replace her given her massive popularity and enthusiasm? I suspect you are just trying to stir the pot, and create a problem for democrats that doesn't exist.

Notice how you and other conservatives are distracting from the fraud that MAGAs threaten in November. You don't like the focus on your side's corruption and fraud, do you? Aren't you concerned? Don't you want a fair and secure election even if the will of the people doesn't election Trump? Where is your dedication?