Lawyer sends warning to GOP election officials with plans to refuse results

[Altfish]

Trump has said this is response:

“I said, vote for me, you’re not going to have to do it ever again. It’s true,” he said. “Because we have to get the vote out. Christians are not known as a big voting group. They don’t vote. And I’m explaining that to them. You never vote. This time, vote. I’ll straighten out the country, you won’t have to vote anymore. I won’t need your vote.”

Weird??

 

[Shaul]

I'm very surprised that the parties can't make up their own rules and systems for selection of candidates.
In the UK, every party has a different system of selection.

In the U.S. political parties can and do make their own rules for selection of candidates. However the rules they create must comply with the various state and federal laws and regulations.

 

[F1fan]

The republicans did not write the constitution. The dems need to try to change the constitution or stop complaining.

Ironic as you continue to complain about how the democrats select their nominee.

Do you want to talk about why the electoral college is better than the popular vote or just call republicans names to make you feel good?

The EC is better for republicans. It’s not better for democracy.

 

[Argentbear]

Where are these rules written down?

They aren't hard to find if you just look

Of note here:
"Replacing a presumptive nominee before the national convention
The Democratic and Republican parties do not formally nominate candidates until delegates vote at the party's national convention. The Democratic National Convention will take place from August 19-22, 2024, and the Republican National Convention took place from July 15-18, 2024.

A party's presumptive nominee, meaning the candidate who receives an estimated majority of delegates after state nominating events, could be replaced at the convention. Delegates could elect a candidate who they were not initially bound to at the time of their state's election. Both state law and party rules govern how a delegate must vote at the national convention, including whether a delegate remains bound to a withdrawn candidate and for how many rounds a delegate remains bound to a candidate."

 

[Argentbear]

You still did not show me where they can do a delegate vote for the nomination prior to their convention.

They haven't.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

You still did not show me where they can do a delegate vote for the nomination prior to their convention.

...

So as per @Argentbear post I am going to ask for evidence that they have done a delegate vote?

 

[Argentbear]

Trump has said this is response:

“I said, vote for me, you’re not going to have to do it ever again. It’s true,” he said. “Because we have to get the vote out. Christians are not known as a big voting group. They don’t vote. And I’m explaining that to them. You never vote. This time, vote. I’ll straighten out the country, you won’t have to vote anymore. I won’t need your vote.”

False.

Trump said in his speech to Christian conservatives: “I love you. You got to get out and vote. In four years, you don’t have to vote again. We’ll have it fixed so good, you’re not going to have to vote.”

Most of what you present here came from an interview three days later with Laura Ingrham

 

[Hermit Philosopher]

Trump has said this is response: “…/They don’t vote. And I’m explaining that to them. You never vote. This time, vote./…”

Thanks @Clizby Wampuscat.

“…/I’ll straighten out the country, you won’t have to vote anymore./…”

With his wording, It’s a good thing he doesn’t write laws.

“…/I won’t need your vote.”

but at least he’s not saying he’s abolishing elections altogether if he’s made president.

Humbly,
Hermit

 

[Altfish]

In the U.S. political parties can and do make their own rules for selection of candidates. However the rules they create must comply with the various state and federal laws and regulations.

I thought the right in the US was against too many regulations.

 

[Shaul]

I thought the right in the US was against too many regulations.

Wait, you're in the U.K. and you are criticizing the amount of regulations in other countries?
There are plenty of laws about regulating political parties in the U.K. such as the Political Parties and Elections Act 2009, the Registration of Political Parties Act 1998 and the Elections and Referendums Act 2000 to name just a few.

 

[Altfish]

Wait, you're in the U.K. and you are criticizing the amount of regulations in other countries?
There are plenty of laws about regulating political parties in the U.K. such as the Political Parties and Elections Act 2009, the Registration of Political Parties Act 1998 and the Elections and Referendums Act 2000 to name just a few.

But all the parties can set up their own rules for leadership. The Reform party is run like a limited company.
Of course there are laws, it would be chaos otherwise. We'd end up with things like PACs

 

[Shaul]

But all the parties can set up their own rules for leadership. The Reform party is run like a limited company.
Of course there are laws, it would be chaos otherwise. We'd end up with things like PACs

So you don't object to election rules, per se. If a Party agrees to abide by election rules and then later tries to not do so out of convenience, that is a valid thing to point out.

 

[Altfish]

So you don't object to election rules, per se. If a Party agrees to abide by election rules and then later tries to not do so out of convenience, that is a valid thing to point out.

Electoral rules are essential.
But I wouldn't care how the parties choose their candidates.

 

[Argentbear]

So you don't object to election rules, per se. If a Party agrees to abide by election rules and then later tries to not do so out of convenience, that is a valid thing to point out.

The only one doing this is Trump and his attempt to weasel out of his agreement to engage in debates

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The republicans did not write the constitution. The dems need to try to change the constitution or stop complaining. Do you want to talk about why the electoral college is better than the popular vote or just call republicans names to make you feel good?

The EC has effectively removed most states from play and has silenced the voices of most voters.
The days of its usefulness and purpose are dead and gone.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Weird??

I'd prefer scary. Straighten out the country? Won't have to vote anymore? That's someone who wants to permanently install himself and rule with an iron fist.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

They haven't.

Kamala Harris is now Democratic presidential nominee, will face off against Donald Trump this fall

Vice President Kamala Harris, a daughter of immigrants, formally secured the Democratic presidential nomination on Monday.

www.boston.com

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

They aren't hard to find if you just look

Of note here:
"Replacing a presumptive nominee before the national convention
The Democratic and Republican parties do not formally nominate candidates until delegates vote at the party's national convention. The Democratic National Convention will take place from August 19-22, 2024, and the Republican National Convention took place from July 15-18, 2024.

A party's presumptive nominee, meaning the candidate who receives an estimated majority of delegates after state nominating events, could be replaced at the convention. Delegates could elect a candidate who they were not initially bound to at the time of their state's election. Both state law and party rules govern how a delegate must vote at the national convention, including whether a delegate remains bound to a withdrawn candidate and for how many rounds a delegate remains bound to a candidate."

I don't see where it says they can make her the nominee prior to the convention.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

So as per @Argentbear post I am going to ask for evidence that they have done a delegate vote?

Kamala Harris is now Democratic presidential nominee, will face off against Donald Trump this fall

Harris, a daughter of immigrants who rose through the California political and law enforcement ranks to become the first female vice president in U.S. history, has secured the Democratic presidential nomination.

apnews.com

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Kamala Harris is now Democratic presidential nominee, will face off against Donald Trump this fall

Vice President Kamala Harris, a daughter of immigrants, formally secured the Democratic presidential nomination on Monday.

www.boston.com

Well, I got a different result when I googled it yesterday. According to @TagliatelliMonster search engines "cheat" sometimes as they learn to understand wht an individual favors and give that result.
So I will try again and you seem to be right:

Harris wins Democratic presidential nomination in virtual roll call. Here's how the process worked - The Republic News

By ROBERT YOON Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) — Democratic delegates have selected Vice President Kamala Harris to be the party’s presidential nominee, according to final vote results released late Monday by the Democratic National Committee. But don’t expect a balloon drop just yet. Harris...

www.therepublic.com

This part is interesting:
"How does the virtual process work?
Delegates used an electronic voting method the party says is similar to one used to tally virtual roll call votes in the 2020 convention, when the COVID-19 pandemic forced the party to conduct much of its official business remotely.

Under new procedures adopted by the convention’s rules committee in late July, candidates had until Tuesday to declare their intent to seek the nomination and until that night to electronically submit the 300 delegate signatures required to qualify for the roll call vote. According to a DNC statement, Harris submitted signatures from 3,923 delegates, about 84% of the full delegation and 99% of delegates who signed a petition.

Under party rules, where only officially nominated candidates were eligible to receive votes, votes cast for someone other than Harris in the roll call were counted as “present.”"