Does anyone else here play this game?
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Does anyone else here play this game?
Back in 2011 or so. Havent played since.Does anyone else here play this game?
On the surface yes, but the systems and balancing philosophy underlining the gameplay are very different. LoL took DoTA's formula, and heavily simplified it.Not really. I honestly can't tell it from DOTAII; they seem like just minor variations of the same game. (Softball v baseball).
On the surface yes, but the systems and balancing philosophy underlining the gameplay are very different. LoL took DoTA's formula, and heavily simplified it.
A Dota II player could walk into LoL and do somewhat well pretty much off the bat. A LoL player would be lost walking into Dota II without research.
Think of it like chess and checkers. To someone who has no knowledge of either game they are but variations of the same idea. But no doubt you are aware that chess is an entirely different game to checkers despite the fact that both games use a checkerboard. Likewise DotA and LoL use a similar board but the pieces behave differently. DotA is chess, LoL is checkers. But at the end of the day if you haven't played either why on earth would you be expected to understand them?I'm sure they're different under the surface, it's just hard to get invested even as a spectator when I can't immediately tell one apart from the other. I sort of view them the same way I view regular sports (apathetic respect), which is appropriate seeing as they're among the most famous e-sports right now. ^_^
Think of it like chess and checkers. To someone who has no knowledge of either game they are but variations of the same idea. But no doubt you are aware that chess is an entirely different game to checkers, despite the fact that the board is the same. Likewise DotA and LoL use a similar board but the pieces behave differently. Fundamentally they are very different games. DotA is chess, lol is checkers. But at the end of the day if you've never played either why on earth would you be expected to understand them?
As for the professional scene I'm rather indifferent myself.
LoL with its utter lack of unit micro is for those who sucked at WCIII.So I definitely understand that they're different games, just not completely different games. They certainly have more in common with each other than DOTA does with its father, Warcraft.
LoL with its utter lack of unit micro is for those who sucked at WCIII.
Come at me LoL players.
I can't speak for LoL as I've only played a dozen or so games but as for Dota II it's not that bad. Yes, a team based game which is both highly competitive and anonymous is a recipe for toxicity. (And the high learning curve doesn't help this either) That said with Valve's report system the more egregious offenders find themselves banned pretty quickly.I've heard... stories... about the "communities".
I can't speak for LoL as I've only played a dozen or so games but as for Dota II it's not that bad. Yes, a team based game which is both highly competitive and anonymous is a recipe for toxicity. (And the high learning curve doesn't help this either) That said with Valve's report system the more egregious offenders find themselves banned pretty quickly.
One solution is to start making friends and play with them. When I first started with dota I played with work buddies and refused to solo-queue for a long time after my first few games resulted in getting abused. However I've also met some nice people along the way and once you start getting better at the game it does improve.
Anonymity and competition brings out a lot of jerks. You will meet them. But the toxicity has been somewhat exaggerated. Dota II isn't in the wild west days of the WCIII mod, Valve has a vested interest in keeping on top of the more undesirable elements. (As much as that can be done anyway)
It's the internet. I'm not defending jerks but you do need a bit of skin on your part. I'm not going the let the occasional run-in with some self-important 'pro' deprive me of an otherwise brilliant game.