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Leaving Jehovah

savagewind

savagewind

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It seems to me that the Jehovah's Witnesses are being taught that to leave them is to leave Jehovah.
It is what they say about someone who was a Jehovah's Witness but left.
I left them, but I don't believe that I have left Jehovah.
It seems to me that it is not possible to "leave Jehovah".
Is it?
 
savagewind

savagewind

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Watchtower 1993 October 1 p.19
"Apostasy is, in reality, a rebellion against Jehovah."
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I realize that I am a rebel against the so-called Christain Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses.
Maybe, someday, I might change my mind about it being a gift.

How am I rebelling against Almighty God? Can one person do that?

I don't believe that the satan is just one person. I think it is an attitude. They say I have that attitude. I might.
I don't know!
 
Laika

Laika

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savagewind said:
It seems to me that the Jehovah's Witnesses are being taught that to leave them is to leave Jehovah.
It is what they say about someone who was a Jehovah's Witness but left.
I left them, but I don't believe that I have left Jehovah.
It seems to me that it is not possible to "leave Jehovah".
Is it?
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You're probably going to go through a bumpy ride. The best thing to do is to accept that you have experienced a loss in terms of religious belief and will go through a process of grieving and mourning. Initially it will be hard but it should become easier as things move on. Give yourself some space and let things settle. The confusion will pass and it should start to become clearer with time what you want to do and what you believe.
 
savagewind

savagewind

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Laika said:
You're probably going to go through a bumpy ride. The best thing to do is to accept that you have experienced a loss in terms of religious belief and will go through a process of grieving and mourning. Initially it will be hard but it should become easier as things move on. Give yourself some space and let things settle. The confusion will pass and it should start to become clearer with time what you want to do and what you believe.
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That is so nice! Thank you.
The dogma of the Jehovah's Witnesses was never by my "belief".
I went in to learn my belief. I didn't learn my beliefs there, but they helped. They helped me a lot!
 
savagewind

savagewind

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I might like to talk about the possibility of leaving Jehovah.
I think that according to The Bible, it isn't possible.

I have scriptures. :D
 
Laika

Laika

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Rival said:
What about a dancing Stalin?
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would uncontrolled twitching do? :D

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whirlingmerc

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It's semantical... I recommend going where the scripture leads... and I think you will find it will lead to the Lord but away from some dearly held eccentricities of those who left Brooklyn and went to Warwick
 
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whirlingmerc

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It's semantical... I recommend going where the scripture leads... and I think you will find it will lead to the Lord but away from some dearly held eccentricities of those who left Brooklyn and went to Warwick
 
savagewind

savagewind

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I understand that the Jehovah's Witnesses believe they live Jehovah's Way so that to leave their way is to leave Jehovah's Way and that is why they say that people like me have left Jehovah.

But are humans in the image of God? Am I and the way I live the same?

They seem to be saying that Jehovah and Jehovah's way for people are the same.

How can that be? Jehovah is The God Who Is [:D] Of Everness. Which means God is without beginning and without ending.

And, it is written that God does not change. Or, does it? I should do some research.

If God is the same before humans as God is with humans then it follows that there is no "way of Jehovah". There is a way of us and hopefully with Jehovah in the heart.

I understand God is IT which can't be got away from. There is no way away from God.
Therefore, that they say a person can and does leave Jehovah proves to me that they do not know what they are talking about.

@djhwoodwerks do you have something to say about that?
 
savagewind

savagewind

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Rival said:
You can't replicate Stalin. There is only One True Stalin.
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I meant is there only one dancing Stalin. Does anyone know what the background is? I thought there would be something so I watched the whole thing and there was.
I even imagined that behind the dancing Stalin there was the subconscious communication there.
I forget what it is called.
 
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whirlingmerc

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savagewind said:
I understand that the Jehovah's Witnesses believe they live Jehovah's Way so that to leave their way is to leave Jehovah's Way and that is why they say that people like me have left Jehovah.

But are humans in the image of God? Am I and the way I live the same?

They seem to be saying that Jehovah and Jehovah's way for people are the same.

How can that be? Jehovah is The God Who Is [:D] Of Everness. Which means God is without beginning and without ending.

And, it is written that God does not change. Or, does it? I should do some research.

If God is the same before humans as God is with humans then it follows that there is no "way of Jehovah". There is a way of us and hopefully with Jehovah in the heart.

I understand God is IT which can't be got away from. There is no way away from God.
Therefore, that they say a person can and does leave Jehovah proves to me that they do not know what they are talking about.

@djhwoodwerks do you have something to say about that?
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Psalm 139 says 'if i make my bed in sheol You are there' so in that sense you cannot leave Him
on the other hand RC Sproul says if there was a vote in hell who to kick out it would be God because the wrath of God makes hell to be hell.... God is everywhere... making heaven to be heaven and hell to be hell and we all live Corum Deo... before the face of God where God is everywhere full strength
 
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