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Leftists' agenda

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
why won't Macron reveal he's gay? it would be great advertising
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Who gives a a damn either way?

Why are you so interested in whether someone else is gay or not?

Sounds a bit ocd to me.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Radical chic leftists' agenda explained in 2 minutes or less.


being a consumer is an identity. being a seller is an identity.

having a self-inflated ego is the problem, or self-aggrandizing.

people are first and foremost identified as people. anything that separates us from that is identified as non-human, or some other species.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
You were the one who suggested it? :shrug:
Never did.

It's a French word, so we use the French pronunciation. We try to avoid the British habit of bastardizing languages. ;)
OMG....... copying the frogs..... :facepalm:
They get so stroppy over English creeping into their lingo, that we Brits absolutely have the right to Anglicise anything that creeps across the Channel from them. That's The English Channel, not LaManche.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Based on what?
Based upon their Politics, their wealth, their businesses etc.

Thing is, English Public Schools (The Rich Private Boarding Schools here) were the breeding grounds for homosexuality and therefore there are quite a lot of rich influential privileged English guys here who are Gay or Bisexual.
:shrug:
 

Anthem

Active Member
Based upon their Politics, their wealth, their businesses etc.

Thing is, English Public Schools (The Rich Private Boarding Schools here) were the breeding grounds for homosexuality and therefore there are quite a lot of rich influential privileged English guys here who are Gay or Bisexual.
:shrug:
Breeding ground?
 

Stevicus

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Staff member
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Radical chic leftists' agenda explained in 2 minutes or less.


Well, they've definitely sold out to right-wing corporate/capitalist interests. In that sense, there's very little difference between left and right. I don't know that they're actually trying to "destroy identities," although it seems as if they're using identity politics to keep the masses confused, off balance, and somewhat at odds with each other.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Well, they've definitely sold out to right-wing corporate/capitalist interests. In that sense, there's very little difference between left and right. I don't know that they're actually trying to "destroy identities," although it seems as if they're using identity politics to keep the masses confused, off balance, and somewhat at odds with each other.
Quite the opposite. You should have listened to Steve Bannon who spoke before she did at that conference.
He said that they use division to control...unity is reached through common values\identities
 

Stevicus

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Quite the opposite. You should have listened to Steve Bannon who spoke before she did at that conference.
He said that they use division to control...unity is reached through common values\identities

It's an old trick used by politicians for centuries, if not millennia. People keep falling for it. But that's all the more reason why they would want to keep identities intact, not destroy them. By keeping different groups of people compartmentalized in disparate groups, it keeps them at odds with each other and secures the position of the ruling class.

What I've seen from both sides is that they're invariably focused on what they think the other side wants to do or is planning to do, suggesting some sort of insidious secret agenda. Both sides do it to a large extent. They exaggerate and use a lot of scare tactics. Usually Hitler gets mentioned at some point.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
It's an old trick used by politicians for centuries, if not millennia. People keep falling for it. But that's all the more reason why they would want to keep identities intact, not destroy them. By keeping different groups of people compartmentalized in disparate groups, it keeps them at odds with each other and secures the position of the ruling class.

What I've seen from both sides is that they're invariably focused on what they think the other side wants to do or is planning to do, suggesting some sort of insidious secret agenda. Both sides do it to a large extent. They exaggerate and use a lot of scare tactics. Usually Hitler gets mentioned at some point.

You're speaking with an European who is totally unaware of the political-cultural mechanisms of the US.
The mind of an European is definitely incapable of understanding the gigantic macrocosm called America because Europe is made up of tiny microcosms called nation-states.
An European doesn't understand the difference between nation and state...so national identity is something carved in our DNA.
We just want to preserve it.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

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Radical chic leftists' agenda explained in 2 minutes or less.


What I saw there was a conservative - or a radical chic rightist if you will - with an agenda, which is to malign and mischaracterize liberals and liberalism. I'm liberal, and I neither want nor know anybody who wants to strip her or anybody else of their identities and substitute numbers for names.

My agenda is for the world to get along, to curb disease, hunger, and poverty where possible, and to make life as free and full of opportunity as possible. The conservative agenda is to oppose that - to try and concentrate wealth, power, and privilege into the hands of the 1%. To do that, they consistently attack liberals and liberalism, the great impediment to that plan.

Conservatism is wrenching darker skinned children from their mothers' arms and caging them. Conservatism is rolling back environmental protection that save lives to increase industrial profits. Conservatism is destabilizing banks for profit and leaving the taxpayer with the mess and the bailout. Conservatism is tax breaks for the wealthy, war for profit, and private prisons. Conservatism is pouring greenhouse gases into the atmosphere for profit without regards to consequences. Conservatism is non-stop propaganda through media outlets.

Liberals oppose that.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Conservatism is wrenching darker skinned children from their mothers' arms and caging them. Conservatism is rolling back environmental protection that save lives to increase industrial profits. Conservatism is destabilizing banks for profit and leaving the taxpayer with the mess and the bailout. Conservatism is tax breaks for the wealthy, war for profit, and private prisons. Conservatism is pouring greenhouse gases into the atmosphere for profit without regards to consequences. Conservatism is non-stop propaganda through media outlets.

That conservatism sounds horrific....btw...just let me tell you that Europe is made up of liberal-socialist states (we had a socialist party and a communist party until 1992) so our "right-wing" is more "socialistic" and btw..the lady in the video was born in a very humble economic context of the lower classes' Rome.
 
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