Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Education and information doesn't necessarily negate one's likelihood of forming opinions based on neither.
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Legalization of drugs
- Thread starter Cypress
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Education and information doesn't necessarily negate one's likelihood of forming opinions based on neither.
Smoke
Done here.
I'd ask her to explain that belief.
Rainbow Mage
Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
Should marajuana be legalized? Hell no!
Cypress
Dragon Mom
Why not?
dust1n
Zindīq
Simple. From first hand experience of both objects, I can deem for myself, at least, that alcohol is more destructive personally than marijuana. No explanation is needed; I've personally experienced it.
Smoke
Done here.
Oh, I agree. That's why the instructor's assertion that marijuana was just as harmful as alcohol bears probing.
And I speak, mind you, as somebody who greatly prefers alcohol. Even I can see that marijuana is relatively benign.
dust1n
Zindīq
And that is fair enough, believe me, I know people who prefer alcohol over marijuana and vise versa.
Of course, I don't really question your intentions of getting people to question their own college professors over marijuana or anything for that matter...
But we are talking about marijuana.
It's so juxtaposed as such a goofy drug, and even an illegal goofy drug, but by the end of the day, and it's easy to treat it like it's no big deal...
BUT, there are more people in FEDERAL prison for marijuana possession or distribution than there are for people in federal for private crimes.
People are ******* insane. To think that it is at all acceptable for a marijuana user, or even a coke user, to be imprisoned for 5+ years in a federal prison is much beyond irrational. It is not even a debatable subject... lives are at stake. This week's JUNIOR COLLEGE newspaper was able to report on a man murdered in prison who was there for marijuana possession a few years after the original sentence was suppose to end.
This is no longer a joke. It's a life or death situation for some people who have no actual criminal record what-so-ever.
Honestly, Smoke, I'm aware of your own tolerance to such a subject... but why even bother question a member's psychology teacher over whether weed or drink is more harmful? They can both be harmful and both helpful depending on the person and circumstance. But ultimately, what has marijuana done to anyone.. or specifically made anyone to be or do anything towards anyone... that is worthy of prison time in a federal level.
The whole situation laughs and mocks at any logical sense of justice ever conceived. What is it to question... that people like to divert themselves from a ****** monotonous life that serves no actual personal benefit, but serves other people who have such luxury it is inconceivable fashion based solely on investment which requires no actual production.
It's sad, really, how minute a problem Americans tend to make marijuana criminalization while a few million serve long terms prison sentences over an object which over 66% of the nation know to be completely harmless, if not experienced themselves without serving any punishments.
Neo-Logic
Reality Checker
The war on drug in general and the war on marijuana in particular relies on serious misinformation.
At the end of the day, the war on drugs is but another tool of our demagogue politicians who wants to appeal to the emotions of terrorized parents than to solve the problem of drugs in our society with any seriousness. I mean, who the hell in their right mind believe that marijuana is a 'GATE WAY DRUG' anymore? Like smoking a joint makes you a crack-head the next day and an acid dropping meth user by the month's end.
At the end of the day, the war on drugs is but another tool of our demagogue politicians who wants to appeal to the emotions of terrorized parents than to solve the problem of drugs in our society with any seriousness. I mean, who the hell in their right mind believe that marijuana is a 'GATE WAY DRUG' anymore? Like smoking a joint makes you a crack-head the next day and an acid dropping meth user by the month's end.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
There have been plenty of people here on RF who have held many negative views on pot. The funny thing is, just about every negative point I have ever heard about marijuana applies to other drugs. Such as, marijuana does not have any physical addictive properties. But people like to hype it's addictiveness to that of crack. Weed won't make you go mad, but Refer Madness and other sources suggest it will make you act like you're on amphetamines. Of course pot won't change your brain chemistry like LSD can, but I know one therapist who swears pot will change your brain chemistry to the point where there won't be any medications for anything that will be effective for treating you (She's also a right-winged conservative with endorsements from the ACCA (I know that shouldn't matter, but furthering scare tactics is horrible.)). I've also heard stories of pot ruining lives like many hard drugs potentially can. And it is hardly addressed that yes, there are more people who are entering rehab for pot. However, what isn't included is the part where the judge said "go to rehab, get a reduced sentence." Who wouldn't take such an offer?
Klaufi_Wodensson
Vinlandic Warrior
I think jail cells should be reserved for murderers and rapists, and not people who smoke marijuana, or sell it.
dust1n
Zindīq
Not to mention, the very small percentage of NA members who attend solely for marijuana are often successful for quitting for literally no long term physical effects.
Tiapan
Grumpy Old Man
Whilst the potency of indoor cannabis has dramatically increased with an improved ability to precipitate existing psychosis, the evidence indicates it is no where as intrusive as long term alcohol abuse. If smoked, cannabis's cancer potential should theoretically be similar to tobacco however Bob Marley is the only case I have been confronted with that one may draw some correlation.
So I think as a clinical pharmacologist your clinical psychologist is talking bovine anus horribilus.
Cheers
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
That is probably a number game. Really, you do inhale cancerous agents from cannabis smoke. There should be people who have gotten cancer from it. But alot of people smoke both, and not too many smoke just cannabis. So in reality there might be some deaths from cannabis, but because probably not too many people will admit they smoke pot when the doctor ask if they smoke, the numbers are probably impossible to verify because there are at least two major variables that overlap, distort, and wreck any data that can be collected on it. Perhaps pot doesn't have any cancerous effects? After all it's usually claimed it has more than cigarettes, but when you look at the ingredients of a marijuana cigarette vs. a tobacco cigarette, I find that very hard to believe. Especially considering that THC, the active ingredient in marijuana, doesn't cause cancer, whereas nicotine, the naturally occurring active ingredient that isn't added in to tobacco, does cause addiction and can cause cancer.
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