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Legalize theft, California?

Spiderman

Spiderman

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So, in San Francisco, you can walk out of the store with hundreds of dollars worth of unpaid merchandise, without paying or police intervention?

I mean, is this real life?

Police cannot do their job?

Opinion | San Francisco Has Become a Shoplifter’s Paradise

I live in the Twin Cities, where George Floyd was murdered! I'm well aware that police murder people, then stood by letting the city burn, and waiting for National guard to arrive.

Twin Cities police yanked my arm out of socket twice and fractured it. The officer told me to put my hand on the wall and I couldn't lift my arm. The nurse looked at it and said it was fine. They didn't give me any medical care.

I had to wait till I got released from jail, then dial 911, and then they did the x-rays and put my arm back into socket. I should have had a law suit or something. Officers said, "we shall find Gandalf for you". Police and peace officers here suck!

But walking out of a store with hundreds of dollars worth of stuff, and not having to deal with police or be charged with a crime, is something I haven't heard of sanctioned before.

In Saudi Arabia they cut off hands and heads for stuff like that!:eek:
 
JustGeorge

JustGeorge

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I never stole a thing in my life, but I caused a lot of shoplifters to go free in my younger years...

Back when kids/young adults still went to the mall for fun, I tended to attract a lot of attention from security guards('cause I'm fun looking). It always made me laugh that the guards were so focused on me, who was stealing absolutely nothing, that they tended to pass over the more conventional looking folks who were nabbing stuff from right under their noses.

Served them right, I thought.

I can't read your full article(paywall), but I get the idea that they're not persecuting something under a certain dollar amount. Some of the reason for that is they probably lose more money in persecuting than they do in just letting the stuff go...

Would be nice if the court system wasn't so costly to use. Truth be told, the contractor we used over the summer stole a lot from us(and we're still sometimes finding more stuff that has been stolen as we go). Its not worth it to take the guy to court, though; we can't really afford small claims court!
 
Spiderman

Spiderman

Veteran Member
We can't call this Americanistan , as @Revoltingest would say, because if it were Americanistan, I would be unable to use toilet paper or use restroom without assistance (no hands, my hands would have been amputated, beginning as an adolescent).

But I'm law abiding now.

Plus I would have no tongue maybe, as some Islamic Theocracies remove tongues of blasphemers, or I would not have a head, is the most likely scenerio.

"The headless spiderman" would make an interesting horror movie.

But we are far from Americanistan Mr. Revolting one! :p
 
Spiderman

Spiderman

Veteran Member
JustGeorge said:
I never stole a thing in my life, but I caused a lot of shoplifters to go free in my younger years...

Back when kids/young adults still went to the mall for fun, I tended to attract a lot of attention from security guards('cause I'm fun looking). It always made me laugh that the guards were so focused on me, who was stealing absolutely nothing, that they tended to pass over the more conventional looking folks who were nabbing stuff from right under their noses.

Served them right, I thought.

I can't read your full article(paywall), but I get the idea that they're not persecuting something under a certain dollar amount. Some of the reason for that is they probably lose more money in persecuting than they do in just letting the stuff go...

Would be nice if the court system wasn't so costly to use. Truth be told, the contractor we used over the summer stole a lot from us(and we're still sometimes finding more stuff that has been stolen as we go). Its not worth it to take the guy to court, though; we can't really afford small claims court!
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George, totally irrelevant to the OP, but when does the Durga celebration/festival end for winter?
 
Spiderman

Spiderman

Veteran Member
JustGeorge said:
If I'm not mistaken, Wednesday is the last day.
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You change your avatar so much, I can't tell you the amount of times you posted, and I didn't initially know it was your post.

Like the post about "I have never stolen". I thought "wow! We have a Saint"!

It wasn't till like an hour afterwards I realized "Oh yeah! It is Saint George!"

I'm not saying it's negative. Just saying I often don't recognize the Saint with a thousand different faces! :p
 
JustGeorge

JustGeorge

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Spiderman said:
You change your avatar so much, I can't tell you the amount of times you posted, and I didn't initially know it was your post.

Like the post about "I have never stolen". I thought "wow! We have a Saint"!

It wasn't till like an hour afterwards I realized "Oh yeah! It is Saint George!"

I'm not saying it's negative. Just saying I often don't recognize the Saint with a thousand different faces! :p
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Sorry. :D I change per mood/mindset...
 
John53

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
Just because police aren't do their job doesn't mean you have to steal. If people did the right thing there wouldn't be a problem.
 
Daemon Sophic

Daemon Sophic

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"CLAIM: Under Proposition 47 in California thefts under $950 will not be prosecuted.

AP ASSESSMENT: False. Proposition 47 was passed in California in 2014 and reclassified felony theft offenses as misdemeanors. It did not allow shoplifting and petty theft to go unprosecuted.
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“What Prop 47 did is increase the dollar amount by which theft can be prosecuted as a felony from $400 to $950 to adjust for inflation and cost of living,” Bastian said. “But most shoplifting cases are under $400 dollars to begin with, so before Prop 47 and after Prop 47, there isn’t any difference.”

Proposition 47 was enacted to comply with a 2011 California Supreme Court order, which upheld that California’s overcrowded prisons violated incarcerated individuals’ Eighth Amendment rights against cruel and unusual punishment."

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Spiderman

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Daemon Sophic said:
"CLAIM: Under Proposition 47 in California thefts under $950 will not be prosecuted.

AP ASSESSMENT: False. Proposition 47 was passed in California in 2014 and reclassified felony theft offenses as misdemeanors. It did not allow shoplifting and petty theft to go unprosecuted.
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“What Prop 47 did is increase the dollar amount by which theft can be prosecuted as a felony from $400 to $950 to adjust for inflation and cost of living,” Bastian said. “But most shoplifting cases are under $400 dollars to begin with, so before Prop 47 and after Prop 47, there isn’t any difference.”

Proposition 47 was enacted to comply with a 2011 California Supreme Court order, which upheld that California’s overcrowded prisons violated incarcerated individuals’ Eighth Amendment rights against cruel and unusual punishment."

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Okay, keep in mind the OP was a question. I had not yet come to fully believe it to be factual.
 
Spiderman

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Kooky said:
Maybe you should move to San Franscisco.
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Problem is, I hate who I used to be with a passion, want to walk upright, have to look at myself in the mirror, and long for integrity, and want to please the spiritual entities that I'm devoted to.

I want to be good for society.

So truly, the last thing I would need right now, ( well not the last thing) at least something I don't need, is a Walgreens that I can walk into and grab a bottle of cough syrup, then walk out of the Walgreens without paying for it.

That said, sipping syrup is no longer a temptation, but it used to be a big problem of mine.

If I could just walk into any Target or walgreens, and walk out with a bottle of cough syrup, that would have been a very big temptation and problem, for most of my life.
 
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