Tumah
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Well in that case, your Qur'an is wrong, because I am expecting the Resurrection of the Dead.
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Let's suppose that when you die... !
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Thief
Rogue Theologian
then I will post again what I have written sooooo many times.....
the devil knows the Quran, the old and new testaments.....
the works of Shakespeare, Einstein, Confucius, and so many more....
but for all the devil may know.....he does not know the presence of God
If you believe Quran is right,you may a Muslim not a Jew !
We will see,and I will remaind you by this discussion
McBell
Unbound
Tumah
Veteran Member
Well, i believe the Qur'an is wrong and I'm a Jew, so it works out perfectly.
That would be nice, but what if you're not around?We will see,and I will remaind you by this discussion
God laws updates depend the people and time...and other conditions.
This is false.
You saying that Muhammad claims that God said is very different from "God said".
The reason that I don't believe in any religion is that people usually mistake "I say..." for "God says..." That is exactly what you are doing here.
Tom
Sakeenah
Well-Known Member
Good questions..I'm not really taking part in OP's discussion but just want to answer this.
Muslim means the one who submits to the will of God. And that's why we muslims say all the prophets were muslims, they submitted to God's will and conveyed His message.The message we are referring to is based on the principle of Tawheed (that all kinds of worship should be devoted to God alone,beliefs,words and deeds.And that everything that is worshipped besides God should be rejected).
So we believe the prophets from Adam to Muhammad are united on this principle but their laws differed as to commands and prohibitions. For some nations fasting,pilgrimage and prayer might have been obligatory and for others it wasn't. For some nations certain things were prohibited and for others it was permissible. Why? We believe that it's a test from God to see who would submit to His will.
I hope this answers your questions
McBell
Unbound
Thank you for your reply.
Do you think God creat you just like that (for no reason) ?
Why you think that God "Him-self" suppose to show Him self to accept His message !!?
I don't claim to know anything about God.
That is why I don't claim to know what God thinks or what God wants or any such thing. Claiming to speak for God is what you religious people do, not me.
Tom
Because we believe that He sent messages by His messangers., and we do created for reason to obey Him.
Why would I believe you when you claim to speak for God?
Tom
Because I quite certain that He sent a Messanger (Muhammad (pbuh)) to "us" all human being.
Why you claim that God should not sent messangers to speak for God , are you His partner?
But God didn't do that. He only sent the message to one 7th century arabic warlord. The rest of us are expected to believe Muhammad's followers. I don't, and God knows why that is true, even if you don't.
I don't claim that. I'm claiming that He didn't send a credible messenger, but He could have if there were a God.
You are the one claiming to be "His partner". You claim to know what God thinks and wants. I do not. I admit to being a mere human with no ability to understand God. That is why I am not religious.
Tom
No problem, everyone is free as He said .
http://quran.com/18/29
I am not His partner,I believe in His messege.
If I am His partner,so I had His power.
When you claim that God not suppose to sent messenger that mean that you are His partner.
So you are suggesting for God,how He deal with His creatures.
Thief
Rogue Theologian