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Let's suppose that when you die... !

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Surely this is the voice of insanity as no person with a lick of sense could take this video seriously.

The imagery alone tells us much about the mental state of the person(s) who originally conjured up this horrific vision of the future.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Surely this is the voice of insanity as no person with a lick of sense could take this video seriously.

The imagery alone tells us much about the mental state of the person(s) who originally conjured up this horrific vision of the future.
That's called believe.

Just 200 years ago if you tell someone (in that time" past") that in future,there will be planes and mobiles and internet and television, he would not believe you, call you insane, you care about future ?
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
That's called believe.

Just 200 years ago if you tell someone (in that time" past") that in future,there will be planes and mobiles and internet and television, he would not believe you, call you insane, you care about future ?
Imagining planes, moblie phones, internet and televisions is not quite the same as imaging the highly detailed and horrific end of the world we know. One is inspired genius, the other originates in unsound minds. To compare the two is seriously weird.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Imagining planes, moblie phones, internet and televisions is not quite the same as imaging the highly detailed and horrific end of the world we know. One is inspired genius, the other originates in unsound minds. To compare the two is seriously weird.
Indeed weird to you now,until it's become fact.
I remember my mom said , "If my grandfather alive he would not believe that we could talk to each other by mobile"

That's human in past, how about God in future?
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Indeed weird to you now,until it's become fact.
I remember my mom said , "If my grandfather alive he would not believe that we could talk to each other by mobile"

That's human in past, how about God in future?
I am willing to admit I am not comfortable with people holding onto views of an insane future predicted by people long ago who likely suffered from a variety of mental illnesses.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
About God needing to be moral?

I can't think of a reason why. I could perhaps fear a God, but never exempt him from needing basic decency and and moral coherence.
so you simply make denial based on your personal sense of morality.....
while assuming God is less able then you?
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
so you simply make denial based on your personal sense of morality.....
while assuming God is less able then you?
He would have to be, if I have any reason to fear what my lack of belief would do to my hypothetical afterlife.

Even then, attempting to believe in God because he might turn out to be an over-enabled bully sure does not sound like a good plan.
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
To me it wouldn't matter what afterlife proves true. I'd have the same feeling I have now.

Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
I am willing to admit I am not comfortable with people holding onto views of an insane future predicted by people long ago who likely suffered from a variety of mental illnesses.
Same thing that people of past would tell you, if you travel to past by time machine :p

What unbelievable in past ,could be fact in present,that's very simple.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Same thing that people of past would tell you, if you travel to past by time machine :p

What unbelievable in past ,could be fact in present,that's very simple.
Making predictions about the future of technology is hardly the same as violent, gory end of the world prophecies, which are usually based on hate, fanaticism and delusion. So just stop it.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I must agree that being awed by the advance of technology is not really comparable with beliefs in the self-contradictory idea of an all-powerful, supremely good God that nonetheless has a beef with people who do not believe in His existence.

Adding the idea of an afterlife in there does not help, either.
 

gnomon

Well-Known Member
I am Muslim , Islam start since Adam( pbuh ) not Abraham( pbuh).
There the absolute justice : so mercy and punishment.
There is no doubt,everyone will get what he/she deserve.

No, Islam did not start with Adam.

That is simply...a fact.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Making predictions about the future of technology is hardly the same as violent, gory end of the world prophecies, which are usually based on hate, fanaticism and delusion. So just stop it.
What I stop tell my opinion ?

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Then why you think it's based on hate...etc ?

I believe God will be THE JUSTICE.
 
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Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
I must agree that being awed by the advance of technology is not really comparable with beliefs in the self-contradictory idea of an all-powerful, supremely good God that nonetheless has a beef with people who do not believe in His existence.

Adding the idea of an afterlife in there does not help, either.
That's was an exemple to explain my opinion .

I am talking about future, so you can't expect what will happened , you may would not believe.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
How can you explain that in any historical sense that Islam started with Adam?
Adam (pbuh) mentioned in Quran as first human "reasonble,intelligent",he and his wife were submit to God.
btw :submission is mean Islam,which against disobey.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
That's was an exemple to explain my opinion .

I am talking about future, so you can't expect what will happened , you may would not believe.
Future may be surprising, but there is little point in disregarding internal coherence of imagined scenarios.
 
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