Let's suppose that when you die... !

[LuisDantas]

Adam (pbuh) mentioned in Quran as first human "reasonble,intelligent",he and his wife were submit to God.
btw :submission is mean Islam,which against disobey.

I have been meaning to ask about this.

Is it correct to say that according to the Qur'an literally every human being all the way back to Adam were born with belief or even awareness of the existence of the God of Ibrahim, and basically were Muslims from birth until and unless they developed disbelief and/or lack of submission to God's will?

 

[gnomon]

Adam (pbuh) mentioned in Quran as first human "reasonble,intelligent",he and his wife were submit to God.
btw :submission is mean Islam,which against disobey.

Interesting. So your religious text stole another religious text.

Adam is a Judaic belief.

So if you believe that your religion teaches that Adam was the first human......why are you not a Jew?

Because Adam was mentioned in a religious text that precedes the Qu'ran by many centuries. What do you make of that?

 

[gnomon]

I have been meaning to ask about this.

Is it correct to say that according to the Qur'an literally every human being all the way back to Adam were born with belief or even awareness of the existence of the God of Ibrahim, and basically were Muslims from birth until and unless they developed disbelief and/or lack of submission to God's will?

Can I answer this question?

 

[LuisDantas]

Interesting. So your religious text stole another religious text.

Adam is a Judaic belief.

So if you believe that your religion teaches that Adam was the first human......why are you not a Jew?

Because Adam was mentioned in a religious text that precedes the Qu'ran by many centuries. What do you make of that?

You will certainly wait for @Godobeyer to answer (as is only fair), but there is little or no dispute that the Qur'an states in no unclear terms that Judaism and Christianity were true at their origins, but failed to keep their doctrines pure and accurate since.

In essence, Muslims seem to trust what they believe Judaism and Christianity to have been long ago, but not necessarily what they are these days.

Can I answer this question?

Sure, although I will certainly take Godobeyer's answer into consideration with a bit more authority. What with him being a Muslim and all.

 

[gnomon]

You will certainly wait for @Godobeyer to answer (as is only fair), but there is little or no dispute that the Qur'an states in no unclear terms that Judaism and Christianity were true at their origins, but failed to keep their doctrines pure and accurate since.

Of course.

 

[Smart_Guy]

I forget to write if you discover that view of Islam about judgement day is true !

I really really don't want anyone to go to Hell as Islam describes it. That place is the worst where one could ever be. I perfectly understand Deetat's point.

Well I've never been married, so end up as one of Allah's houris in Jannah...? Maybe?

Hey... how ya doin'?

 

[HonestJoe]

The only one who could answser this question,it's Him.

Why would that question (who created the creator) be different to any other question about the nature of God? How can you make definitive statements about other things that God is or thinks yet are incapable of making any statement of the questions of his origins?

 

[Nahwns Reefglin]

Hello all

My question especially to atheists.

Let's imagine that when you die ,you would discover that there is hereafter and judgement day ,and hell and heaven...etc

Seriously what suppose to be would your reactions ?

EDITED to add
I forget to write if you discover that view of Islam about judgement day is true !

I would not care.

This god did not care for me, why should I care for it?

 

[Nahwns Reefglin]

I really really don't want anyone to go to Hell as Islam describes it. That place is the worst where one could ever be. I perfectly understand Deetat's point.

The Islamic hell is the worse place a human can comprehend.

Pray to your god that you do not find out what the places beyond it consistent of.

 

[Smart_Guy]

The Islamic hell is the worse place a human can comprehend.

Pray to your god that you do not find out what the places beyond it consistent of.

Amen!

Since it's the worst, then what's beyond it is not even as bad, by common sense.

 

[Godobeyer]

I really really don't want anyone to go to Hell as Islam describes it. That place is the worst where one could ever be. I perfectly understand Deetat's point.

Do you think God will put all non-Muslim in? For me I don't think so.

 

[Godobeyer]

I have been meaning to ask about this.

Is it correct to say that according to the Qur'an literally every human being all the way back to Adam were born with belief or even awareness of the existence of the God of Ibrahim, and basically were Muslims from birth until and unless they developed disbelief and/or lack of submission to God's will?

I believe the first Muslims in world were Adam (pbuh) and his wife, because they submit to God.

 

[Godobeyer]

Why would that question (who created the creator) be different to any other question about the nature of God? How can you make definitive statements about other things that God is or thinks yet are incapable of making any statement of the questions of his origins?

What is the guaranty that our mind built/able to understand that?

I mean do think that our knowlgde and mind could reach than?, I don't think so.

 

[Godobeyer]

Future may be surprising, but there is little point in disregarding internal coherence of imagined scenarios.

This my point, if human could surprise each other ,and could produce plane ,atomic bombs....etc
So how about the Creator?!

 

[Smart_Guy]

Do you think God will put all non-Muslim in? For me I don't think so.

No, I think that even non Muslims are possible to go to paradise.

 

[HonestJoe]

What is the guaranty that our mind built/able to understand that?

I’ve no idea but then neither do you. My point is that there are some statements about God which you make with unshakable confidence and certainty yet other questions you state, often with similar certainty, that we can’t know (or are incapable of knowing). I’m asking what the difference is between the things you appear to know about God and the things you don’t.

I personally suggest that you (like many religious people) don’t actually know anything about God, there are just some things you really want to believe are true (and thus state as fact) and some things you don’t want to believe or can’t reach a consistent conclusion on (and thus state as something we can’t know).

 

[Godobeyer]

How can you explain that in any historical sense that Islam started with Adam?

Since the first one he submit to God.
http://quran.com/2/37

 

[Godobeyer]

No, I think that even non Muslims are possible to go to paradise.

I hope so
Inshallah

 

[Godobeyer]

I’ve no idea but then neither do you. My point is that there are some statements about God which you make with unshakable confidence and certainty yet other questions you state, often with similar certainty, that we can’t know (or are incapable of knowing). I’m asking what the difference is between the things you appear to know about God and the things you don’t.

I personally suggest that you (like many religious people) don’t actually know anything about God, there are just some things you really want to believe are true (and thus state as fact) and some things you don’t want to believe or can’t reach a consistent conclusion on (and thus state as something we can’t know).

As I said I believe our minds and bodies are limited to understand that.

 

[LuisDantas]

This my point, if human could surprise each other ,and could produce plane ,atomic bombs....etc
So how about the Creator?!

Oh, it is hypothetically possible that there is a Creator God, although I doubt it.

But it does not follow that I should allow for the possibility that he exists and is unfair.