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LGBTQ

Argentbear

Well-Known Member
Are you gonna answer my question?
you asked "Are you aware trans women were allowed in female spaces? " It's been going on for decades it only became an issue when right wingers began their hate campaign against trans people. The rest of your questions are all based on your fantasy that some how trans people didn't use bathrooms before 2010.

Now how about the evidence i asked for
 

Argentbear

Well-Known Member
Lots of posters here seem unable to discuss the "trans" topic without resorting to slurs and strawman arguments and such. So we'll see if we can discuss / debate this without such boring tactics...
Yes it would be very nice if you didn't start with that stuff.
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
Bull! Repealing Jim Crow laws had nothing to do with allowing men into female spaces.
It did have something to do with desegregation.

Men only.
Women only.
A tyrannical majority got to decide whom and what and where.
 

Kfox

Well-Known Member
It's My Birthday!
Except you are when you harp on about "men" using women's facilities. It's transphobic, but not only that your arguments make victims of cis-women who don't pass people's "feminine enough" glance, leading to harassment and bullying because those worries about "men in the womens restroom" are not targetting men but transwomen and they do with a scope and definition of what a woman is that is so narrow that many women don't pass and it reveals a lack of understanding that even ciswomen come in a large variety of shapes and sizes.
How does a female drying off after taking a shower in the female locker room; with female sex organs in place not gonna pass the feminine enough glance? Or visa versa?
 

Kfox

Well-Known Member
It's My Birthday!
and those opposing the end of segregation used the same appeals to fear that you are
NOTHING was based on fear. There is a big difference between picking out one race and separating them from the multiple other races vs separating one sex from the other. Race is a social construct, sex is not.
 

Kfox

Well-Known Member
It's My Birthday!
you asked "Are you aware trans women were allowed in female spaces? " It's been going on for decades it only became an issue when right wingers began their hate campaign against trans people. The rest of your questions are all based on your fantasy that some how trans people didn't use bathrooms before 2010.

Now how about the evidence i asked for
These are the 4 questions I asked you

*Are you aware trans women were legally allowed in female spaces?
*If so, how do you suppose this happened?
*Do you think all of a sudden at once all business decided to allow this? Or do you suppose there was some type of legislation passed causing them to do this.
*If you believe this was caused by legislation, what legislation do you suppose caused this?
 

Kfox

Well-Known Member
It's My Birthday!
It did have something to do with desegregation.

Men only.
Women only.
A tyrannical majority got to decide whom and what and where.
As opposed to a tyrannical minority getting to decide whom and what and where?
 

Kfox

Well-Known Member
It's My Birthday!
Do you acknowledge that as a trans
woman that she's not a man?
It is my understanding that Trans women are actually biological males. Now I personally do not divorce gender from sex because when you do this it makes gender a social construct therefore meaningless as a means of describing people. However for those who do divorce gender from biology, you need to ask them to define a man and see if this person fits their description.
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
As opposed to a tyrannical minority getting to decide whom and what and where?
What laws were in place? Were there any arrests? Any military involved? How many from this majority were injured or worse by that minority? How was that majority persecuted? What tyranny?
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
It is my understanding that Trans women are actually biological males. Now I personally do not divorce gender from sex because when you do this it makes gender a social construct therefore meaningless as a means of describing people. However for those who do divorce gender from biology, you need to ask them to define a man and see if this person fits their description.
But you've admitted that race is a social construct. You're correct there. Gender is not sex. It's arbitrary. Were you born with a suit/dress?
 

Kfox

Well-Known Member
It's My Birthday!
What laws were in place? Were there any arrests? Any military involved? How many from this majority were injured or worse by that minority? How was that majority persecuted? What tyranny?
The tyrannical minority hasn't taken over yet. But it seems this is what you are trying to accomplish
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It is my understanding that Trans women are actually biological males. Now I personally do not divorce gender from sex because when you do this it makes gender a social construct therefore meaningless as a means of describing people. However for those who do divorce gender from biology, you need to ask them to define a man and see if this person fits their description.
Is she man or woman?
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
It is my understanding that Trans women are actually biological males. Now I personally do not divorce gender from sex because when you do this it makes gender a social construct therefore meaningless as a means of describing people. However for those who do divorce gender from biology, you need to ask them to define a man and see if this person fits their description.
You define a man.
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
The tyrannical minority hasn't taken over yet. But it seems this is what you are trying to accomplish
Fear feeds you. You just won an election. You're still imagining a boogeyman that never existed.
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
Again; if gender is not sex, then gender is meaningless as a description

What does a suit or a dress have to do with gender?
Since you won't define things when asked. We're just about through here.
 
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