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Liberals feel/think if you don't support Biden, then you are a MAGA

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Voters having to deal with higher costs of groceries, fuel, rent, etc. will decide whether Biden or anyone else would be the best candidate.
Educated voters will look at the causes for those prices and make their decision for support based on who is most able to deal with situation, not just the one who claims magic abilities.
BTW, one of the big problems with the deficit and its pressure on interest rates is the Trump tax cut.
Trump's policies as heralded by his spokespeople will not have the effect he claims if you actually ask an economist.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
Don't like Biden then you're a MAGA
According to who? Why just make stuff up? The pro-Palestinian protesters aren't fans of Biden and they aren't MAGA.
We are 100% where we are because of the games and BS the two parties play.
The parties aren't the same. Republicans are much worse with their corporate policies and the elimination of the middle class.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
What is wrong with making America great again? The opposite of Making America Great Again; MAGA, is to Make America Decline and Divide; MADD, like the current state of affairs. The upcoming election is MAGA versus MADD. Nobody wants to be madd all the time.

The thing I hated the most about the first Trump term as President, was the Liberal fake news media; DNC propaganda wing, created a Trump cartoon character that brain washed their half of the country. If you look back, Trump did many things that benefitted all Americans, such as a robust economy with low inflation, high employment with record employment for blacks and women, wage increases, national security, and the reduction of wars, low energy prices, etc. This was in spite of eight years of Obama and Biden and their weak economy the Trump inherited and the Arab Spring rampage of destruction that Obama helped along.

All the Democrats did during Trump's first term was divide the country with their disinformation campaign. Does anyone remember the Russian Collusion scam that the dishonest Democrat leaders pushed for years, until they got caught. This scam is what originally divided the country. Trump was too forgiven after that scam was debunked, which emboldened the crooks for worse sabotage and division during COVID.

In the second half of Trump's term, during COVID, the Democrats shut down half the economy, causing half the US states to go from Democracy to a weird form of Socialism, that took away the basic rights of common people, while the leaders ate cake and broke curfew. These unnecessary actions; bonehead actions, especially in 20/20 hindsight; made no difference to the outcome, but ruined the economy by messing up the Democrat side of the supply chain. Luckily, the Republican states maintain their freedom and Democracies, as Trump fast tracked vaccines in record time. The new Trump economy stated to rebound, at record speed, in spite of the Democrats intensions of shut down and sabotage before the 2020 election.

Fast forward to the Biden Presidency and how little He and the DNC did was for the benefit of all Americans. It was a selfish presidency. He cared more about illegal immigrants, than the citizens from both parties. Even Democrat run cities, who got what they asked for; sanctuary cities, were overwhelmed and angry at loosing their own benefits and added costs. Biden ruined the fossil fuel industry and caused hardship for everyone, because it amplified the impact of the broken supply chain the DNC caused, with added transportation and energy costs.

Their green energy and electric push was not for everyone, but just for the rich and insider traders. The poor from both sides who had old cars, saw their costs go up. All the middle class has saw a decline in spending power. Then Biden allows Putin to invade Ukraine. The writing had been on the wall, since Obama and Biden, but Biden and the DNC did nothing to prevent it. It was like Obama, who allowed Russian to take Crimea. But unlike Obama, the US was placed in a money pit war, needing to boost a Ukrainian dictatorship, made that way due to a preventable war and desperate times. The DNC via the Department of Education, also brain washing school children and targeted parents for caring about their children. What type of moron monster party is this?

Under Trump a peace treaty was signed in the Middle East. Under Biden, by him siding with Iran early on, allowed Hamas to be funded, who then attacks Israel. Israel responds, now the DNC minions are blaming the original victim, for daring to fight back. They do not blame Hamas and their use of human shields. They do the same to Trump and his supporters. The DNC ran the Russian Collusion scam and were the aggressors that divided the country. Trump fought back and he is blamed? Trump coined the term "fake news" which was true and Fake news hates Trump.

The deficit grew under both Trump and Biden, but most of Trump's deficit came from COVID, with the money spent benefitting all the citizens from both parties, and not a bunch of selfish one sided agenda items, such as occurred under Biden.

I like Trump because his actions speak louder than his words. Biden words speak louder than his one sided actions. Biden promise to unite the country but added to the division. With the DNC, it is not what they say but what they do. Is the DNC base a bunch of anarchists or a bunch of morons? Anarchy, although not my cup of tea, at least shows directed conviction and much success dividing and destroying. Moron show that you have been broken by misinformation and revisionist history. That can be fixed.

This time around Trump cannot be merciful to the DNC and Swamp leadership, since after the Russian Collusion Coup, mercy emboldened them and they got even worse. They are up to Kangaroo Courts. Trump will need hobble them. We have no choice. The rabid dogs and their zombie army are delirious and on the march. The cancer needs to be excised, before we can unite the country with MAGA and not go MADD.
My thought as well.

Make America Great Again is a tremendously fine statement and acronym.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
What's in it for me to perform this task that you request from me? I don't work for free (at least for something like this, anyways).
you seem to think he will be better at it than the other guy, I guess we are asking if you have a reason to think that way or is it just that he said so?
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
But your comments here are political. This might be part of the problem. As you say, you don't see certain things as political because you agree with them, or they're "inoffensive" to you.
Sure, my comments here are political. After all that's the section of the forum that this thread is in. For what it's worth, I find most politics to be unnecessary divisive.
 

Wirey

Fartist
Those are the options. There's only one rational option. You love to get mired in speculation. I prefer dealing with the reality we have, and making a rational decision.
Didn't you call me, a Liberal Party of Canada voter (left of the dems) a MAGA yesterday? Tell me again about rational! :D
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Never thought that. BUT if you support Trump then you are by default a MAGA.
However if you (say) support Nikki Hayley, then you are not a MAGA
"BUT if you support Trump then you are by default a MAGA"

You support my thread title

However I disagree. Some people will vote Trump just because he is republican just like some people will vote Biden just because he is democrat.

Voting for their party doesn't make one a MAGA.

Some people who don't like Trump will still vote republican.
Some people who don't like Biden will still vote democrat.
I call it party loyalty.
 
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We Never Know

No Slack
And the SS motto in world war II was God is with US, would that justify in your mind the actions of the SS organization if you believed in God?

Meine Ehre Heisst Treue" is a German phrase that translates to "My Honor Is Loyalty

"Meine Ehre heißt Treue (pronounced [ˌmaɪnə ˈʔeːʁə haɪst ˈtʁɔʏə]; "My honor is loyalty") was the motto of the Schutzstaffel (SS) under Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party in Nazi Germany

Origin....
"Hitler wrote a letter of congratulations to Daluege, stating ... SS-Mann, deine Ehre heißt Treue! ("Man of the SS, your honor is loyalty"). Soon afterward, Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler, adopted the modified version of this phrase as the official motto of the organisation"

 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
If you want to make America great again the first and most important thing you need to do is get rid of Trump and the racist misogynistic anti-lgbtq movement called "MAGA".
I dunno. Trump is essentially a force to those that essentially had created their own monster in the first place.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Meine Ehre Heisst Treue" is a German phrase that translates to "My Honor Is Loyalty

"Meine Ehre heißt Treue (pronounced [ˌmaɪnə ˈʔeːʁə haɪst ˈtʁɔʏə]; "My honor is loyalty") was the motto of the Schutzstaffel (SS) under Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party in Nazi Germany

Origin....
"Hitler wrote a letter of congratulations to Daluege, stating ... SS-Mann, deine Ehre heißt Treue! ("Man of the SS, your honor is loyalty"). Soon afterward, Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler, adopted the modified version of this phrase as the official motto of the organisation"

Oops, my bad it was the Wehrmacht.
Apologies
But exactly who was not the point but rather that the simple literal meaning of a phrase does not automatically confer itself to the persons using it.

Again my bad.
 

Wirey

Fartist
Same as for Americans about Putin.
They believe they know Europeans more than anyone else.
I admit, it's hard to "know" people outside of your own bubble, for want of a better concept. But the rest of the world is relatively predictable, while the US really is not. Name one other western democracy where Trump would have a chance of winning. It's a unique place.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Forward doesn't mean better; it can mean things have gotten worse. There have been plenty of losses, including rights - take 2nd Amendment rights, as an example. There are other issues, such as inflation (legal financial bankster theft).
Gun rights have generally been expanded, the loss of Roe v Wade is a far greater concern, amd inflation is a global thing. Politicians unded normal circumstances can't really do much about it, especially in a free market society.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
"BUT if you support Trump then you are by default a MAGA"

You support my thread title

However I disagree. Some people will vote Trump just because he is republican just like some people will vote Biden just because he is democrat.

Voting for their party doesn't make one a MAGA.

Some people who don't like Trump will still vote republican.
Some people who don't like Biden will still vote democrat.
I call it party loyalty.

But you conflated two different things. There is support for Trump, and there is support for the Republican party despite Trump.

If you support Trump, you are MAGA. That's his slogan, and it's the name given to his followers.
 
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