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Liberals feel/think if you don't support Biden, then you are a MAGA

McBell

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The first one, I think it would be a matter of simply looking up online what the official charges were.

But the other points might require a certain degree of legal education that most of the general public wouldn't have. If one has to be a law school graduate in order to be considered educated enough to vote, then that would reduce the pool of educated voters considerably.
And they were in fact explained.
Numerous times by numerous members.
Yet, they still repeat them as though no one has already explained them numerous times.
And all this in one thread.
When you have this same scenario in multiple threads concerning the exact same numerously explained by numerous members in numerous threads.....
 

Pogo

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The first one, I think it would be a matter of simply looking up online what the official charges were.

But the other points might require a certain degree of legal education that most of the general public wouldn't have. If one has to be a law school graduate in order to be considered educated enough to vote, then that would reduce the pool of educated voters considerably.
They are all available to anyone with access to the internet that has passed high school English where learning to look up information so as to avoid opinion sources etc is taught as information literacy.
Understanding the basics does not require a law degree only the ability to read critically for information.

What is information literacy in high school?


Information literacy is a set of skills that allow individuals to effectively find, evaluate, organize, use and communicate accurate information in all its various formats. Our information literacy lessons for middle school and high school students can be led by an educator, or even the students themselves. Cayuhoga public libraries

Information Literacy | New York State Education Department​

 

McBell

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They are all available to anyone with access to the internet that has passed high school English where learning to look up information so as to avoid opinion sources etc is taught as information literacy.
Understanding the basics does not require a law degree only the ability to read critically for information.

What is information literacy in high school?


Information literacy is a set of skills that allow individuals to effectively find, evaluate, organize, use and communicate accurate information in all its various formats. Our information literacy lessons for middle school and high school students can be led by an educator, or even the students themselves. Cayuhoga public libraries

Information Literacy | New York State Education Department

ONE of the problems with the schooling in the USA is the No Child Left Behind fiasco.
While it looked great on paper, it actually hurt the education system in practice.
For the longest time most schools had to spend all their time on the NCLB criteria and had to neglect, if not outright abandon, all else.
 

Stevicus

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Staff member
Premium Member
They are all available to anyone with access to the internet that has passed high school English where learning to look up information so as to avoid opinion sources etc is taught as information literacy.
Understanding the basics does not require a law degree only the ability to read critically for information.

What is information literacy in high school?


Information literacy is a set of skills that allow individuals to effectively find, evaluate, organize, use and communicate accurate information in all its various formats. Our information literacy lessons for middle school and high school students can be led by an educator, or even the students themselves. Cayuhoga public libraries

Information Literacy | New York State Education Department


Still, when we're talking about legal questions in a legal realm, it's still mostly a matter of opinion and philosophy. There's no "2+2=4" kind of answer here which can be easily shown and proven. Some people see it more as a matter of rote memorization and believe "Now I know all I need to know," but on questions like these, who is qualified to give a complete, final, and absolute answer?
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Still, when we're talking about legal questions in a legal realm, it's still mostly a matter of opinion and philosophy. There's no "2+2=4" kind of answer here which can be easily shown and proven. Some people see it more as a matter of rote memorization and believe "Now I know all I need to know," but on questions like these, who is qualified to give a complete, final, and absolute answer?
Well to that extent the only source is the appropriate court in our system.

but 2 + 2 = -486 can be avoided by basic literacy.
 

Stevicus

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Well to that extent the only source is the appropriate court in our system.

but 2 + 2 = -486 can be avoided by basic literacy.

True, although the appropriate court goes through a chain of command ending at the Supreme Court. I've seen articles from legal scholars criticizing the Supreme Court for making the "wrong" decision or getting legal concepts wrong. Does that make them "uneducated" for being wrong? Or are those who question the Supreme Court the "uneducated" ones? And how is the public (whether "educated" or "uneducated") supposed to interpret this?

If "educated person A" says X, and "educated person B" says Y, then can someone be considered "uneducated" if they say either X or Y?
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
True, although the appropriate court goes through a chain of command ending at the Supreme Court. I've seen articles from legal scholars criticizing the Supreme Court for making the "wrong" decision or getting legal concepts wrong. Does that make them "uneducated" for being wrong? Or are those who question the Supreme Court the "uneducated" ones? And how is the public (whether "educated" or "uneducated") supposed to interpret this?

If "educated person A" says X, and "educated person B" says Y, then can someone be considered "uneducated" if they say either X or Y?
I am using educated to mean at least the minimum knowledge of our system to be a good citizen as in the those passing a citizenship test, but I think you know what I mean.
 

Stevicus

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I am using educated to mean at least the minimum knowledge of our system to be a good citizen as in the those passing a citizenship test, but I think you know what I mean.

Yeah, I get it, although it reminds me of certain advertising techniques. Like if you see a commercial that says "Only the most sophisticated palates eat at Gus's Greasy Spoon Diner." So, people not wanting to be seen as "unsophisticated" will then say "Yes, I frequent Gus's Greasy Spoon and think it's the finest restaurant there ever was."

I see it as a variation on the old "Emperor's New Clothes" gambit where people can be convinced that a naked man is wearing elegant and stylish clothing.

"Hey, that man isn't wearing any clothes!"
"You say that only because you're uneducated and lack critical thinking skills."
 
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