Lobsters Unlikely [to] Feel Pain

[Pah]

Study: Lobsters Unlikely Feel Pain

By CLARKE CANFIELD Associated Press Writer
The Associated Press
Complete story

PORTLAND, Maine Feb 15, 2005 — A new study out of Norway concludes it's unlikely lobsters feel pain, stirring up a long-simmering debate over whether Maine's most valuable seafood suffers when it's being cooked.

Animal activists for years have claimed that lobsters are in agony when being cooked, and that dropping one in a pot of boiling water is tantamount to torture.

 

[meogi]

Mmmmm, tasty!

Reminds me of the Family Guy episode where Stewie dives into the lobster aquarium and battles with one of them... haha

 

[michel]

Study: Lobsters Unlikely Feel Pain

By CLARKE CANFIELD Associated Press Writer
The Associated Press
Complete story

This is a subject that distresses me greatly.
I was in fact having discussing this point a few days aga with my older son who told me that 'science has proved that Lobsters have no pain receptors like ours'.

I left the argument at that point, because he is always vehement in his opinions... such is youth...

I believe that science can only deal with what it is able to perceive; that just because we THINK that we can be certain of facts works only within the limitations of what we know.
I feel the same way about the barbaric way of sticking nasty hooks through the mouths of fishes, letting them 'suffocate', all in the name of sport.
I am even open minded to the possibility that trees and plants have 'much more to them' that we can see with our feeble senses.
Does anyone else feel this strongly?

 

[cardero]

There were a couple of threads on vegetarianism in Off Topic Discussion when I first joined that dealt with subject of eating living entities that you might find informative Michel. We delve into the aspects of morals regarding the plant kingdom as well as the animal kingdom.

 

[Scuba Pete]

I see them lobsters lined up to get into those pots too! Nope, they don't feel a thing!

 

[kreeden]

I see them lobsters lined up to get into those pots too! Nope, they don't feel a thing!

You know , that was my first thought on the subject too . Having been born on the east coast , and having seen quite a few lobsters cooked , I can't say that I have ever seen one jump into the pot on it's own . And when you think about it , wouldn't they want to get back into the water ?

 

[Pah]

I see them lobsters lined up to get into those pots too! Nope, they don't feel a thing!

They ride on the backs of beef going to slaughter - right?

 

[cardero]

They ride on the backs of beef going to slaughter - right?

Surf and Turf

 

[robtex]

I see them lobsters lined up to get into those pots too! Nope, they don't feel a thing!

some of us, like myself, have never had lobster, or have seen one put in boiling water. Could someone tell us about it. Do they seem to precieve danger..how do they react when they are put in the water ect ect.....I am just woefully igorant on this.

 

[cardero]

some of us, like myself, have never had lobster, or have seen one put in boiling water. Could someone tell us about it. Do they seem to precieve danger..how do they react when they are put in the water ect ect.....I am just woefully igorant on this.

First make sure the temperture of the water is boiling but not bubbling, I usually put a yellow rubber duckey or other bathtub toys in the pot to throw them off the scent. It is very important not to have any sticks of butter laying about or any other cooking pots that would indicate that you are about to melt something and they are usually none the wiser.

 

[Master Vigil]

Another way of thinking about it. And I'm sure NetDoc knows this. If you go diving in a swarm of lobsters, they won't think twice. YOU ARE FOOD. Same with crabs. They don't care if it is humane to eat you.

However, I don't think that is any excuse to eat them at the rate that we do. Whether or not they feel it doesn't matter. I wonder if we will eat them to extinction? Anyone know the numbers? Wolf?

 

[Scuba Pete]

Women adore me,

Lobsters fear me!

Lobsters and crabs both retreat from larger creatures. We call Florida SPiney Lobsters "Bugs" and I have seen them to 30+ pounds. I have caught a 17 pounder, bare handed and it would not even fit in the goody bag. It had wedged itself W-A-Y up under the ledge and I had to really coax it out. The inquisitive moray did not help matters at all. Once wrestled out from under the ledge he did his best to impale me with the sharp spurs on his tail. He succeded on a grand scale. I had to swim him up while he was kicking. When I threw him into the boat the captain almost jumped out. Too funny!

 

[Master Vigil]

Then I must be mistaken. I thought I remembered learning about the lobsters down in maryland that will swarm and kill you.

 

[Pah]

Women adore me,

Lobsters fear me!

Have you tried boiling women?

 

[BUDDY]

Do Lobster feel pain?

I think I heard about this and the explanation was that sinse they have no cental nervous system, they didn't have the ability to perceive pain.

I thought that you were supposed to have the water cold and steadily heat it up to boiling? Or was that a torture method during the Spanish Inquisition? I get confused.

Also, if you are boiling a lobster and you hear it "scream", it is not really a scream, it is just air escaping from inside of the shell and it make a whistling noise. I freaked my sister out with that one. "Listen to what you are doing to the lobster sis!!! Your killing it, you're killing it!!" She still holds a grudge for that.

 

[linwood]

I`ve dropped alot of lobsters in alot of boiling pots.
We`re talking thousands.
Yes, i`m a serial lobster boiler.

I don`t think it hurts them, if it does they don`t respond to pain like most creatures i`m aware of.

I see no difference in their movements or demeanor when they`re out of the water as opposed to when they`re in the water.

None.

 

[linwood]

Then I must be mistaken. I thought I remembered learning about the lobsters down in maryland that will swarm and kill you.

Those are crawfish Vigil.

Very freaky little creatures, I have strange ideas about their intelligence.

 

[Master Vigil]

"Those are crawfish Vigil."

Some crawfish up here in Pa like to grab ya. They are crazy. But yeah, I've read they actually swarm ya in maryland. Crazy stuff.

 

[Scuba Pete]

Crawdads are called mudbugs, and they won't swarm you either. I love to hunt for them in the springs.

BTW, it is amazing to see a Jewfish inhale a lobster. They will come up to a ledge and suck it right out.

Once dead, though you are exactly what a crab wants. The stinkier the better.

 

[linwood]

Crawdads are called mudbugs, and they won't swarm you either. I love to hunt for them in the springs.

BTW, it is amazing to see a Jewfish inhale a lobster. They will come up to a ledge and suck it right out.

Once dead, though you are exactly what a crab wants. The stinkier the better.

I was being a bit flippant.

I once saw a bushel of crawdads stacked on a stack of beer kegs in a walk-in cooler.
They were about 6 feet off the ground.

I went back into the cooler about an hour later and the crawdads had formed a kind of monkeys in the barrel (Remember that game in the 70`s?) chain by grasping each other and had made it to the ground.

It was eerly, almost like they had communicated to do it.

I know they couldn`t have but it was eerie nonetheless.