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Local Tragedy

Vasilisa Jade

Formerly Saint Tigeress
Yesterday something horrible happened here. There was a fire warning due to the dryness in the weather, and someones house caught on fire. I do not know the whole story, just bits of it from a relative of the homeowner. I do not know if she was inside when the fire initially happened or outside, but I know that her house was on fire, her three girls were inside, a 5 yr old, 3 yr old, and an infant, and she was in... what I pray to be shock/ fear, and not cowardice, screaming and going frantic in her front yard watching while her children were being burned alive inside the home. Her neighbor tore across the yard and ran into the house after the kids. He got the infant first, then got the 3 yr old, but they did not get the 5 yr old in time. The infant is in critical condition I believe, and the 3 yr old is suffering bad burns.
This is such a horrible disaster and heartbreak. i cannot imagine myself in the mothers shoes... and I have been bothered because why do I find myself critisizing her? I keep thinking, why did she waste all that time being stupid?! Why did she wait for the neighbor?! She could have gotten them all if she would have acted first and with the neighbor! There obviosly was not severe structural danger at that point and before he got there. Then I feel like a *&$#%^ because that is just SO horrible. Then I start wondering if I would freeze in a situation like that. And then I just pray that I wouldn't, and then I start feeling like a stupid #@$%^ agian for thinking stuff like that regarding the poor woman's situation. It is like a viscous cycle.
I have never been one to be "timid." I did rescue my friend from a rip tide or undertow at the beach.... (and I am TERRIFIED of the ocean/sharks/water I can't see the bottom of). But that's the extent of testing my bravery. I do get adrenaline dumps pretty easy I guess. But with something like this, it cannot be simulated, you don't know what you are going to do, and how your flight/ fight/ freeze somethin er another response is going to respond.
This also freaks me out cause for YEARS now i have periodically had nightmares about my house catching on fire, my family would always be okay, but in my dream I wouldnt be able to get to all my animals, which are like my children. I would break through a window or something and get some of them, but becuase of the building falling apart I would get cut off from some of them. I really would hope that I would be the crazy s.o.b. to be able to plow through a burning house just to rescue my cat, succeed without killing myself, and deal with the pain later... but then agian we all do, right? Especially with our children.

I had a friend I used to work with who tried to rescue an old lady from a burning house. He tried to go in after her but she was blocked off. And he stayed there trying to find a way to get to her until she died. Everyone was so
atrocious
to him. The torture he got mentally from all the idiots around here almost made him commit suicide. People made things up, like, he would have been able to rescue her but he just sat there and watched... and all kinds of horrible things. He had nightmares about it like, every single night. If you ever hear me talk negatively about the people in my small little town, trust me that it is usually an understatement, and reality is scarier than fiction. I don't know how this poor lady is going to cope, or what is going to happen to her. There are too many people here who do not know how to keep their opinions to themselves, and do not know the meaning of respect or discretion. This whole thing just really disturbs me to the core in so many different ways...:sad4:
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I wouldn't be too critical of the mother, ST. It sounds like she was hysterical and not thinking at all in a rational manner. Sometimes, people do that in a crisis.

A new firefighter once told me -- after he'd worked the job for 60 days or so -- that he was quitting because he had two kids and he didn't want them to loose their father. After he quit, there wasn't a single fireman who criticized his decision to quit. They all understood that a person has to make the decision to risk their life for themselves, and that no one -- no one -- has a right to make that decision for them.
 

kadzbiz

..........................
Tragic. Nobody can predict how they will inevitably react to anything like that. We had a case here where four children under 6 were playing in the family car with a cigarette lighter. The worst thing imaginable happened. The parents didn't even know they were in the car. I personally new the parents before the event. The incident, though heartbreaking, didn't surprise me.
 

Nanda

Polyanna
I've been in a house fire. I panicked. Luckily, I was alone, and had enough sense to get out of the house, but once I was out, all I could do was scream. I can't imagine what it would have been like if there had been anyone else in the house, dependent on me. I like to think I'd be able to get it together and save the day, but would I? I hope I never have to find out.
 

Vasilisa Jade

Formerly Saint Tigeress
I wouldn't be too critical of the mother,

I am staying away as best I can. When everyone found out in the office today, even in a polite, still empathetic way, they critisized her. Saying, "I just don't see how her motherly instinct didn't kick in..." and such.

I hope that she was hysterical. Could you imagine feeling senses of cowardice at a moment like that? Healing would be impossible. What I can believe is that her motherly instinct would not allow cowardice. Hysterics/ shock/ blank/ frozenness/ disbelief/... yeah. But I am sure it won't be long before the first stone is thrown, openly, at her face, with a real stone:mad:. i hope that the community tries to find a way to support the family. If I knew something I could do right now to help I would do it in a heartbeat. And even if I was set in stone that she was totally in the wrong... I'd kill someone if they did something less than kind to someone who just experienced that. Impusive and ignorant thoughts should be repressed and ignored until they die away.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Nobody can predict how they will inevitably react to anything like that.

That is extraordinarily true. I think most of us wish we could predict how we'd react in such situations, but the fact is we cannot.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I am staying away as best I can. When everyone found out in the office today, even in a polite, still empathetic way, they critisized her. Saying, "I just don't see how her motherly instinct didn't kick in..." and such.

I hope that she was hysterical. Could you imagine feeling senses of cowardice at a moment like that? Healing would be impossible. What I can believe is that her motherly instinct would not allow cowardice. Hysterics/ shock/ blank/ frozenness/ disbelief/... yeah. But I am sure it won't be long before the first stone is thrown, openly, at her face, with a real stone:mad:. i hope that the community tries to find a way to support the family. If I knew something I could do right now to help I would do it in a heartbeat. And even if I was set in stone that she was totally in the wrong... I'd kill someone if they did something less than kind to someone who just experienced that. Impusive and ignorant thoughts should be repressed and ignored until they die away.

I'm with you all the way on that, ST. As Dan says, nobody can predict how they would react in such a situation.

Frankly, I learned years ago to suspect bluster and even perhaps cowardice of people who are "all too sure and certain" that they'd be heroes if put to the test.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I've been in a house fire. I panicked. Luckily, I was alone, and had enough sense to get out of the house, but once I was out, all I could do was scream. I can't imagine what it would have been like if there had been anyone else in the house, dependent on me. I like to think I'd be able to get it together and save the day, but would I? I hope I never have to find out.

If someone else was depending on you, Nanda, it could turn out completely the opposite of your first experience. The fact is how we will react under a different set of circumstances is pretty much unpredictable.
 

Vasilisa Jade

Formerly Saint Tigeress
If someone else was depending on you, Nanda, it could turn out completely the opposite of your first experience. The fact is how we will react under a different set of circumstances is pretty much unpredictable.

There are endless amounts of little variables that can change the way one reacts as well. Variables that are probably not even percievable.
 
That is really sad St.T. I think in a situation like that, you for a bit turnn into a mental person, with no sense of what to do. Its easy to say here and now, but in the situation, its hard to do what we previously said. I hope those poor little babies get better.
 
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