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"Lock Him Up!"

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
There Trump supporters, how does that feel?

I say this because over and over again we heard at rallies coming from Trump supporters and his campaigners "Lock her up!", and I didn't see any of you Trump supporters complain. But now that the spotlight is on Trump & Co., we see regular whines about us not prejudging Trump. But where were you last year, Whinettes, when Hillary was being judged by Trump, his campaign staff, and some here at RF?

I have repeatedly said here that we need to see how these investigations play out, so I do not say nor believe in "Lock him up!" as I know that the Constitution says that one is innocent until proven guilty-- but it's truly unfortunate that the Trumpettes here don't follow that same constitutional prohibition.

And then on top of that, the Trumpettes seem very comfortable with the bromance between Trump and Putin, maybe forgetting that the later really has shown contempt for NATO and our election process. Gee, the Republicans used to not trust KGB guys like Putin, but now so many Trumpettes don't seem to much care? Some people should maybe look up the word "hypocrisy" and see if their avatar is next to it.

Sorry to be sarcastic, but there's a definite stench in the room that I feel needed to be addressed.
 

Politesse

Amor Vincit Omnia
I'm not sure such calls mean anything real, whoever is doing the shouting, other than "I'm angry!"
 

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
There Trump supporters, how does that feel?

I say this because over and over again we heard at rallies coming from Trump supporters and his campaigners "Lock her up!", and I didn't see any of you Trump supporters complain. But now that the spotlight is on Trump & Co., we see regular whines about us not prejudging Trump. But where were you last year, Whinettes, when Hillary was being judged by Trump, his campaign staff, and some here at RF?

I have repeatedly said here that we need to see how these investigations play out, so I do not say nor believe in "Lock him up!" as I know that the Constitution says that one is innocent until proven guilty-- but it's truly unfortunate that the Trumpettes here don't follow that same constitutional prohibition.

And then on top of that, the Trumpettes seem very comfortable with the bromance between Trump and Putin, maybe forgetting that the later really has shown contempt for NATO and our election process. Gee, the Republicans used to not trust KGB guys like Putin, but now so many Trumpettes don't seem to much care? Some people should maybe look up the word "hypocrisy" and see if their avatar is next to it.

Sorry to be sarcastic, but there's a definite stench in the room that I feel needed to be addressed.

take a break. you don't have an obligation to deal with everyone else's :pileofpoop:. so just put yourself first and find something constructive to do. it won't change the world but it will make you feel a bit better.

It's not the right thing to do by any means but its the best we can do. a little bit of denial helps keep things in proportion and not get overwhelmed by it. In reality you and the trump supporters actually share the fear and anger in common because they all feel they live in a world they have no control over and the governments being run by crazy people who have no idea what the **** they are doing or else are just screwing people over. its a scary time , the institutions are out of control and its no good watching the news when its filling your head with toxic junk that confuses and disempowers you because scaring the audience with selective, distorted and sensationalist half truths gets higher ratings. fear and anger makes them money- it doesn't make you happy.

unplug. you'll feel better in the morning or in a few hours.

whether or not we all agree, we all know how you feel. I've been resisting the desire to panic since Trump got elected (with mixed results :D ). Have a hug dude. life feels better with a few hugs. its the little things that keep us grounded and sane.
:hugehug:
 

esmith

Veteran Member
So, there was no issue you saw with Obama and Putin, Bill and Hillary with Putin?
I do understand though:D
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
I'm not sure such calls mean anything real, whoever is doing the shouting, other than "I'm angry!"

Pretty much what it's amounted to.
Even if either were locked up I don't think it would mean much as I doubt either is the real power behind the throne.

After Trump leaves office, I suspect Donald and Hillary will be off somewhere drinking tea and reminiscing about all the fun times they had.

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Skwim

Veteran Member
There Trump supporters, how does that feel?

I say this because over and over again we heard at rallies coming from Trump supporters and his campaigners "Lock her up!", and I didn't see any of you Trump supporters complain. But now that the spotlight is on Trump & Co., we see regular whines about us not prejudging Trump. But where were you last year, Whinettes, when Hillary was being judged by Trump, his campaign staff, and some here at RF?

I have repeatedly said here that we need to see how these investigations play out, so I do not say nor believe in "Lock him up!" as I know that the Constitution says that one is innocent until proven guilty-- but it's truly unfortunate that the Trumpettes here don't follow that same constitutional prohibition.

And then on top of that, the Trumpettes seem very comfortable with the bromance between Trump and Putin, maybe forgetting that the later really has shown contempt for NATO and our election process. Gee, the Republicans used to not trust KGB guys like Putin, but now so many Trumpettes don't seem to much care? Some people should maybe look up the word "hypocrisy" and see if their avatar is next to it.

Sorry to be sarcastic, but there's a definite stench in the room that I feel needed to be addressed.
Guess it all depends on whose ox is getting gored. . . . . . . or needs a bit of ego stroking . . . . . . . . or is getting gored.

From what I've seen Trumpettes have no concerns past their own. Just like Trump himself.

"So what that Trump has malignant narcissism, harbors fantasies of unlimited success, power, and brilliance, is waaay over his head in the job as President, and most likely has secret financial interests in Russia he needs to keep hush hush in order to keep his job, AS LONG AS he promised to: put up a wall and make Mexico pay for it, OR repeal Obamacare, OR not take any vacations, OR kill Common Core, OR bring back waterboarding, HE'S MY MAN."

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sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
It is meaningful that no one complained about prior presidents and Russia (Putin) until the investigation started about the current one. (Outside of Dubya looking into Putin's soul, of course). Now of course we have nothing but claims. It's classic including the casting of aspersions on those who want to see the investigation play out in the normal legal sense.

About anger, yes there is indeed anger but what was going on was very very close to "fire in a crowded theater" inciting violence. Maybe it was not over the line but they went right up to that line.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
take a break. you don't have an obligation to deal with everyone else's :pileofpoop:. so just put yourself first and find something constructive to do. it won't change the world but it will make you feel a bit better.

It's not the right thing to do by any means but its the best we can do. a little bit of denial helps keep things in proportion and not get overwhelmed by it. In reality you and the trump supporters actually share the fear and anger in common because they all feel they live in a world they have no control over and the governments being run by crazy people who have no idea what the **** they are doing or else are just screwing people over. its a scary time , the institutions are out of control and its no good watching the news when its filling your head with toxic junk that confuses and disempowers you because scaring the audience with selective, distorted and sensationalist half truths gets higher ratings. fear and anger makes them money- it doesn't make you happy.

unplug. you'll feel better in the morning or in a few hours.

whether or not we all agree, we all know how you feel. I've been resisting the desire to panic since Trump got elected (with mixed results :D ). Have a hug dude. life feels better with a few hugs. its the little things that keep us grounded and sane.
Wow ... get over yourself.
 

Mister Silver

Faith's Nightmare
Trumpism is too ingrained in too many people to have that wanna-be president removed from office.

Trump merely validated everything they already believed, and that is a sad fact for a country that should be wiser for it being known as the greatest country in the world.

No doubt, Trump will continue his tirade of psychotic tweets while ensuring the rest of the world moves on while America becomes less great.

What Trump supporters consider great will be the downfall of a once great nation. I am reminded of Rome.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Trumpism is too ingrained in too many people to have that wanna-be president removed from office.

Trump merely validated everything they already believed, and that is a sad fact for a country that should be wiser for it being known as the greatest country in the world.

No doubt, Trump will continue his tirade of psychotic tweets while ensuring the rest of the world moves on while America becomes less great.

What Trump supporters consider great will be the downfall of a once great nation. I am reminded of Rome.
When exactly were we great?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Wow ... get over yourself.
His post is better than yours.
So you ought take your own advice.

Really, people are starting thread after thread about trivial things, just to wallow in tribal
anti-Trump feelings. Meanwhile, his ramping up the War On Drugs goes unnoticed.
There are many good reasons to dislike Trump. I have my own. But becoming unhinged
over this serves no greater good. But off the hinges it is to be, then pick good reasons.
 
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metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
So, there was no issue you saw with Obama and Putin, Bill and Hillary with Putin?
Deflection. No one that I know of, including any Pubs, had claimed that Putin used cyber-attacks involving the elections involving Barack and Bill. No charges of collusion. No secret meetings with Russians that they later denied or "forgot" about.

OTOH, lying under oath? Yep for Bill, which is why I felt he should have resigned, and I said as such many times back then.
 

Mister Emu

Emu Extraordinaire
Staff member
Premium Member
There Trump supporters, how does that feel?
Meh.

I have repeatedly said here that we need to see how these investigations play out, so I do not say nor believe in "Lock him up!" as I know that the Constitution says that one is innocent until proven guilty-- but it's truly unfortunate that the Trumpettes here don't follow that same constitutional prohibition.
I would say there is a difference of some significance in a completed investigation concluding that the law was violated, but no action being taken, and an investigation that has not been completed and offers no conclusions yet.

Should the investigation lead to the conclusion that anyone in the Trump 'team', up to and including the man himself, violated the law, I hope he will not receive the same favorable treatment.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
There Trump supporters, how does that feel?
I say this because over and over again we heard at rallies coming from Trump supporters and his campaigners "Lock her up!", and I didn't see any of you Trump supporters complain. But now that the spotlight is on Trump & Co., we see regular whines about us not prejudging Trump. But where were you last year, Whinettes, when Hillary was being judged by Trump, his campaign staff, and some here at RF?
I have repeatedly said here that we need to see how these investigations play out, so I do not say nor believe in "Lock him up!" as I know that the Constitution says that one is innocent until proven guilty-- but it's truly unfortunate that the Trumpettes here don't follow that same constitutional prohibition.
And then on top of that, the Trumpettes seem very comfortable with the bromance between Trump and Putin, maybe forgetting that the latter really has shown contempt for NATO and our election process. Gee, the Republicans used to not trust KGB guys like Putin, but now so many Trumpettes don't seem to much care? Some people should maybe look up the word "hypocrisy" and see if their avatar is next to it.
Sorry to be sarcastic, but there's a definite stench in the room that I feel needed to be addressed.

"The Republicans used to Not trust KGB guys like Putin..."
A friend of mine was reminding me:
- Putin was a KGB agent and George Bush senior was CIA director. Perhaps Republicans should not have
trusted Bush either? The old Soviet Union is long gone and so is the need to be apprehensive about it.

..." the latter, really has shown contempt for NATO and our election process."
- a very biased mass media repeating that Putin "interfered" with the election does not constitute "proof".
If the contempt has to do with Russian acquisition of Crimea, then if we take a look at
Russian history - Crimea was historically part of Russia until the Soviet Union gifted it to Ukraine.
A legal election resulted in the annexation of Crimea.
Promises were made to Mikhail Gorbachev that NATO would not expand into Eastern European countries.
But today, there are 12 more NATO countries bordering Russia and consequently Russia is ringed with nuclear missiles aimed at its cities. It appears that NATO is the contemptuous party here.

"Trumpettes seem very comfortable with the bromance between Trump and Putin,"
- Shouldn't an attempt to establish 'good relations with with another world power' constitute good foreign policy. The media has spun this as "bromance".

"I have repeatedly said here that we need to see how these investigations play out..."
- After 8 months in office, there is still NO evidence of "collusion" with Putin or Russia regarding the election.
This investigation has the appearance of an attempt to tie Trump's hands to prevent him from making good
on campaign promises.
More than likely Hillary's e-mail server fiasco and Wikileaks killed her chance at the presidency.

"I say this because over and over again we heard at rallies coming from Trump supporters and his campaigners "Lock her up!", and I didn't see any of you Trump supporters complain."
- A large portion of the public seems to feel this way about Hillary due to the corruption both she and her husband have been involved with. A list of peculiar "accidental deaths" and supposed suicides of their associates to include death wherein the victim supposedly shot himself in the back of the head.
Look up "Arkancide" and you will find a list of over 40 untimely deaths of people associated with the Clintons.
Then there are the financial scandals, etc.,etc.

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