Logic in heaven vs on earth.

[Spirit of Light]

If heaven do exist and the beings who may be in heaven exist.

Would heavenly beings have the same kind of logic as human being on earth?
Or would they (in heaven) be on a different level of understanding and use other forms of logic thinking?

Any thoughts?

 

[Psalm23]

If heaven do exist and the beings who may be in heaven exist.

Would heavenly beings have the same kind of logic as human being on earth?
Or would they (in heaven) be on a different level of understanding and use other forms of logic thinking?

Any thoughts?

I would assume different logic and understanding as they would have different experiences and see things that humans do not.

 

[Revoltingest]

Would God have 13 toes, or 17 tentacles?

 

[paradox]

If heaven do exist and the beings who may be in heaven exist.

Would heavenly beings have the same kind of logic as human being on earth?
Or would they (in heaven) be on a different level of understanding and use other forms of logic thinking?

Any thoughts?

logic is not different, what is different is what they think about.
in heavens there is no meterialism, and logic about meterialism is irelevant there and not on the table.

 

[osgart]

They would know more about reality so there logic would progress far beyond human logic. I don't think logic serves well until there are knowns involved, and a spiritual being would have advantages in perceiving reality that a human couldn't possibly have.

Spiritual beings would perceive the nature of being as it is, and not have to project like humans do.

I can recognize my own identity with some effort and reflection. An eternal spiritual being would know the source of identity and how everything actually goes together. We struggle for insight whereas they would just know. So they would know the meanings behind the emotions, and thoughts that emanate from being.

 

[Polymath257]

I would guess the logic would be the same, but the basic assumptions would be different, so the conclusions would be different as well.

 

[SalixIncendium]

I find it quite limiting to think of heaven as a place. In my experience, heaven is a state of mind, or more accurately, a state of being...bliss.

I am a "heavenly" being experiencing this perceived existence as a human being. Logic is relative.

 

[Revoltingest]

logic is not different...

How would this be even knowable?

 

[Audie]

Would God have 13 toes, or 17 tentacles?

Different levels call for different amounts
of tentacle-logics. Or logic- tentacles?

 

[paradox]

How would this be even knowable?

logic is knowable and argument based, something is either logical or it is not.

that logic is present heavens is knowable from scriptures.

 

[Revoltingest]

logic is knowable and argument based, something is either logical or it is not.

that logic is present heavens is knowable from scriptures.

But when speculating about a realm so
very different from our material world,
the premise that logic applies is simply
not demonstrable.
Strength of belief in logic doesn't cut it.

 

[paradox]

But when speculating about a realm so
very different from our material world,
the premise that logic applies is simply
not demonstrable.
Strength of belief in logic doesn't cut it.

You call it realm but it could also be called another possible world.

You can simplify this to:
Hypothesis is that heavens exists.
then if things are not logical in heavens then also heavens is not logical and thus heavens logically do not exist.
however possibility of heavens is logically possible.
therefore things are logical in heavens.

 

[Revoltingest]

You call it realm but it could also be called another possible world.

You can simplify this to:
Hypothesis is that heavens exists.
then if things are not logical in heavens then also heavens is not logical and thus heavens logically do not exist.
however possibility of heavens is logically possible.
therefore things are logical in heavens.

You've an unstated premise, ie...
Logic in our realm is the same as logic in this other realm.

It's a seductive premise because logic we use
is without conflict. Why assume it in Heaven, etc?

 

[Heyo]

If heaven do exist and the beings who may be in heaven exist.

Would heavenly beings have the same kind of logic as human being on earth?
Or would they (in heaven) be on a different level of understanding and use other forms of logic thinking?

Any thoughts?

If heaven exists all logic is out of the window.

 

[Spirit of Light]

If heaven exists all logic is out of the window.

Why?

 

[paradox]

You've an unstated premise, ie...
Logic in our realm is the same as logic in this other realm.

because there is no "other" or 2nd logic, logic is simple and just one.
the opposite is illogic.

if something is illogical then it does not exist.

 

[Revoltingest]

because there is no "other" or 2nd logic, logic is simple and just one.
the opposite is illogic.

if something is illogical then it does not exist.

It's proposed: A world with magical properties.
No one's yet offered a basis to say that logic applies there.
You've stated several premises that aren't justified.

 

[The Hammer]

Would God have 13 toes, or 17 tentacles?

I thought that said testicles.

 

[Revoltingest]

I thought that said testicles.

Oh, that's what I actually meant.

 

[Madmogwai]

logic is not different, what is different is what they think about.
in heavens there is no meterialism, and logic about meterialism is irelevant there and not on the table.

If they are not materialistic they would not care if they were banished from Heaven.
Heaven itself is a place that we very much covert therefore you cannot want for Heaven if you are not Materialistic.
Once in Heaven you surely wish to stay meaning Heaven has become a desire.