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Long standing hatred ended. I hope.

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
I have one sibling, a sister, age 66, I'm 68.
We had a horrible childhood, father an ragaholic alcoholic, mother a psychotic closet alky that hid
her behavior behind by fathers bad behavor. A common human behavior in dysfunction.
Mother beat us awful, taught us as little kids to shoplift from stores and when caught by store clerks she'd beat us saying" I told you stealing was wrong". Confusing huh?
She was a J.W. and when we got old enough to balk about going to church she scared us with Jehovah saying he would send birds to pluck our eyes out and make us blind.
Wow. I didn't like that god very much, was in fact terrified.
We grew up and had kids and treated them as badly as we were treated, not knowing how badly trained we were.
Dad died, mom remarried a realy nice man 20 year here senior. Poor bastage, she drove him into his grave, inherited 83 grand. I had that put in the market and parlayed it into a quarter mill.
Sis learned of moms bucks, and got real good a forging her will which I requested be a 50/50 spilt of all chattels.Sis forged it leaving all to her.
Mom died, I was not notified, I heard via a cousin in time for the funeral and learned Sis BANNED me from attending. Wow.
She hated my guts because I quite drinking, become something, made amends to my poor children.
It was 10 years ago mom died. I never saw mom for the last 15 years of her life, she had a stroke and became a carrot needed 24/7 care and Sis hid her in a nursing home to deny me a visit.
I tried many, many, times to contact mom & Sis but every attempted was blocked.
Well a month ago I, by chance, drove on the raod where mom lived. Sis has that house and lives in it.
Some voice said "stop, go to the door, if she answers just hug her and tell her you love her.
I did!
She answered, looked as tho she saw a ghost, great fear in her eyes, she knows she treated me awful, cheated me out of tons of bucks.
I hugged her, gave her a kiss. She was shocked, invited me in and we talked for hours on end.
I never brought up what she did to me, how hurt I was, not a word.
Her husband is so sick he must wear oxygene, can't walk arcross the room w/o it.
She looked horrible, she's sick too. They are out of money, the nursing homes go it all.
They scrape by on social security disablity which ain't much.
I have over 100 grand in investments, live on $4500 a month tax free, get gas royalites next year.
I fell good I stopped by, healed at least some of her evil I think.
Perhaps I'll give her...............................................NO! I ain't giving her any money. :mad::mad::mad:
I'm forgiving, not stupid.:D:D
 

Kirran

Premium Member
An amazing level of forgiveness, good on you for opening up your heart, rather than letting it all just fester, I imagine it did your sister good as well as yourself.

If she really needs the help, I imagine you're sensible enough with your money to know when to give, and when to stop giving.
 

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
You seem like a good man. You did good in forgiving and visiting. I say why don't help financially too? We have a saying here that translates to "blood never becomes water". You're blood relatives. Your mother chose to keep you after delivering you after 9 long hurting months and your sister was with you in the hardships you both faced as children. If you believe they are/were bad, you can be better. Even if their hatred for you is still their, be the better person and have non against them.
 

Kolibri

Well-Known Member
I am glad you have come full circle too in realizing that your mom was one of Jehovah's Witnesses in name only. Perhaps she will be of the "unrighteous" resurrected. If so, you'll have an opportunity to make memories with her that have nothing to do with the hurt from days gone by.
 

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
The thing about family is that there is always still a chance to change, to grow and to heal. You just have to believe so. One of my old friends years ago was in his mid eighties and as compassionate, kind and caring a man as you could ever meet. He regaled me with countless tales of his youth - and I got the clear sense that he used to be a bit of a ________ when he was young (insert preferred epithet). Time and a willingness to keep growing can heal all things.
 

Moni_Gail

ELIGE MAGISTRUM
I'm glad some of those old wounds have healed over time, and that you were able to give her a modicum of peace as well.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
I was sad to read about your family history and your early life.
And despite all, you made it through. Well done.
Oh.... and you are very forgiving........ :)
 

JayJayDee

Avid JW Bible Student
Great story of forgiveness @jeager106. Parents have an incredible responsibility to teach and to set the best example for their children. How sad when parents are the worst of role models and can even promote wickedness whilst claiming to be a Christian. It is fair to assume that you Mom was not really a Witness of Jehovah. No true Witness could even behave in such a manner. But, one has to wonder what her own parents were like? :( As you said, you modelled your behavior on theirs with your own children......who was she modelling? This reminds me of the Bible's words about 'visiting the sins of the father upon the children'...how true. How often do bad parents produce clones of themselves?

For a sibling to think of cheating their own flesh and blood out of a shared inheritance is unthinkable to me. Since we all reap what we sow, it is understandable that you do not see the need to bail your sister out of her present financial situation. There is great liberation in forgiveness. You have done a good thing here. You will have no regrets. :cool:

Seriously though, I can never figure how people can ever be happy by stealing happiness (money or anything else) from another person.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
Glad u mended fences. Be careful to not let her take advantage of you because she may take this act of kindness as weakness.

Very astute observation my friend Deidre.
I stopped by my former mothers home as I knew Sis lost her much nicer, newer, home for not paying her bills, not due to mom having a stroke and becoming a carrot.
Sis squndered the 14 $million-or at least a good bit of it-before the nursing homes took the rest and they got the lions share.
Were it not for my Sis being so dishonest and down right mean, she would be homeless, She managed to keep moms meger home from the nursing homes.
I have no doubt Sis enjoyed my impromtue visit and was happy I that when she started bring up the nasty past I stopped her and we only joked about our childhod.
My visit brought ME peace and comfort that I final;ly caught her at home after years of phone messages letters, vistits with no answer at the door.
Sis is still very much the leacherous thing she's always been, her only son hasn't spoken to her in years.
About forgiving her...I did that long ago. I would not let them starve by any means but offering them finaces at this time would open a door to my heart and wallet I can't afford.
100 grand is pityful small money these days at my age.
 
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Jumi

Well-Known Member
Good for you and your sister. Many times the greedy will find themselves alone and lost. There are better ways to live than by money.
 

Deidre

Well-Known Member
Very astute observation my friend Deidre.
I stopped by my former mothers home as I knew Sis lost her much nicer, newer, home for not paying her bills, not due to mom having a stroke and becoming a carrot.
Sis squndered the 14 $million-or at least a good bit of it-before the nursing homes took the rest and they got the lions share.
Were it not for my Sis being so dishonest and down right mean, she would be homeless, She managed to keep moms meger home from the nursing homes.
I have no doubt Sis enjoyed my impromtue visit and was happy I that when she started bring up the nasty past I stopped her and we only joked about our childhod.
My visit brought ME peace and comfort that I final;ly caught her at home after years of phone messages letters, vistits with no answer at the door.
Sis is still very much the leacherous thing she's always been, her only son hasn't spoken to her in years.
About forgiving her...I did that long ago. I would not let them starve by any means but offering them finaces at this time would open a door to my heart and wallet I can't afford.
100 grand is pityful small money these days at my age.


I see. Just curious and throwing this random question out there into the interwebz… why do so many of us accept BS from family members? Just because people are blood-related…why do I owe them anything, if they’ve treated me badly? Well…they’re family. Bla bla bla…

My dad is an ***. Why should I bother with him anymore? He has apologized, but honestly...if the dude wasn't my dad, and say was just a friend who treated me the way he has? I'd block him out of my life.
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
I understand this feeling. There are some people who just put you down, if you give them kindness they will just sneer at you. They will apologize but when the sun rises again they continue with what they've always done. For me they may be kin, but I will only accept them if they change. I have forgiven them on my own, but I never wish to see them again.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
I see. Just curious and throwing this random question out there into the interwebz… why do so many of us accept BS from family members? Just because people are blood-related…why do I owe them anything, if they’ve treated me badly? Well…they’re family. Bla bla bla…

My dad is an ***. Why should I bother with him anymore? He has apologized, but honestly...if the dude wasn't my dad, and say was just a friend who treated me the way he has? I'd block him out of my life.

You are absolutely correct my dear Deidre.
I feel I stopped by my sisters more for my own peace of mind than hers.
I recall a story. An alcoholic father mistreated his son all the sons life.
The son grew up and moved away.
Dad finally gets into rehab, joins A.A. learns to become a better sober man.
The dad visits the son out of the blue saying " Son, I'm sober now."
The son says "so what. Get the hell off my porch you s.o.b."
So what did dad expect? That the heavens would open, a ray of sun shine on him and his abused son would wrap his arms around and say "Dad, thank God you've been saved."
Wow. Dad needs seriously examine his sober ego.
He MUST make amends, but the son does not need accept them.
That is reality.
 

Deidre

Well-Known Member
You are absolutely correct my dear Deidre.
I feel I stopped by my sisters more for my own peace of mind than hers.
I recall a story. An alcoholic father mistreated his son all the sons life.
The son grew up and moved away.
Dad finally gets into rehab, joins A.A. learns to become a better sober man.
The dad visits the son out of the blue saying " Son, I'm sober now."
The son says "so what. Get the hell off my porch you s.o.b."
So what did dad expect? That the heavens would open, a ray of sun shine on him and his abused son would wrap his arms around and say "Dad, thank God you've been saved."
Wow. Dad needs seriously examine his sober ego.
He MUST make amends, but the son does not need accept them.
That is reality.

You are a good man, jeager.

Yes, you did it for your own peace of mind, but your random act of kindness...hopefully, she will pay it forward. One can only hope. :heart:
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
You are a good man, jeager.

Yes, you did it for your own peace of mind, but your random act of kindness...hopefully, she will pay it forward. One can only hope. :heart:

Agreed. I pray for her but just because I have changed, my heart softened, my spiritual condition is better, does not mean my sisters has.
Perhaps what father didn't teach her father time will.
 
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