Lord Peter Truscott on Western Russophobia

[Parchment]

Considering what much of the U.S. media is focusing on and reporting on now I think it might be wise to at least give this a watch/read. Is it important for the CIA to have the congress and citizens of the U.S. see Russia as an enemy so they can get them to back the policies Hillary wouldn't have blinked an eye to support?
Russophobia essential precondition for US policy of Middle East regime change – Lord Truscott — RT News

 

[Nietzsche]

It's hard not to see Russia in a negative light considering literally everything they've done for the past 15+ years.

But sure, if you want to ignore their horrible human rights policies, their neo-Tsar who had a reporter poisoned with a rare uranium isotope, their own shoddy knockoff of an Anschluss in the Crimea, their funding and provocation of separatists in the Donbass, their support of Serbia when they were slaughtering Bosniaks, Albanians, Kosovars and what not, their propping up of a vicious dictator in Syria, their flagrant violations of Turkish airspace..

Do I need to keep going?

 

[columbus]

Is it important for the CIA to have the congress and citizens of the U.S. see Russia as an enemy so they can get them to back the policies Hillary wouldn't have blinked an eye to support?

I see Putin's Russia as an enemy of the USA. Hillary and partisan politics have absolutely nothing to do with it. It does seem to me that Trump supporters are unable to see past that crap. Trump likes Putin and Putin supported Trump in the election.
That seems enough to ignore anything else concerning the international relations.
Tom

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Isn't Russophobia just another way of saying one has a functioning brain?

 

[buddhist]

I see Putin's Russia as an enemy of the USA. Hillary and partisan politics have absolutely nothing to do with it. It does seem to me that Trump supporters are unable to see past that crap. Trump likes Putin and Putin supported Trump in the election.
That seems enough to ignore anything else concerning the international relations.
Tom

What makes Russia an enemy?

 

[Parchment]

It's hard not to see Russia in a negative light considering literally everything they've done for the past 15+ years.
But sure, if you want to ignore their horrible human rights policies, their neo-Tsar who had a reporter poisoned with a rare uranium isotope, their own shoddy knockoff of an Anschluss in the Crimea, their funding and provocation of separatists in the Donbass, their support of Serbia when they were slaughtering Bosniaks, Albanians, Kosovars and what not, their propping up of a vicious dictator in Syria, their flagrant violations of Turkish airspace..
Do I need to keep going?

The United States has a lot of skeletons in their closets as well so it would be just as easy for Russia to see us in a negative light using your standards, I'm pretty sure I don't need to make a list of our dirty deeds.

 

[Nietzsche]

The United States has a lot of skeletons in their closets as well so it would be just as easy for Russia to see us in a negative light using your standards, I'm pretty sure I don't need to make a list of our dirty deeds.

Care to tell me when we've recently(as in, since the end of the cold war) we aided a genocidal dictator or annexed a large swathe of another country?

 

[dust1n]

Care to tell me when we've recently(as in, since the end of the cold war) we aided a genocidal dictator or annexed a large swathe of another country?

And one that was actively committing cyber espionage on us successfully on a routine basis...

 

[columbus]

What makes Russia an enemy?

Single top reason:
It is in Russians best interests to be the dominant Middle East power. Russia, Iran, and Syria versus USA, KSA and Israel for beginners.
I see a war forming. And that's why Putin wanted a weak president like Trump and did his best to prevent facing a hardened hawk like Godzillary.
Tom

 

[columbus]

The United States has a lot of skeletons in their closets as well so it would be just as easy for Russia to see us in a negative light using your standards, I'm pretty sure I don't need to make a list of our dirty deeds.

Of course we do.
That doesn't mean we aren't enemies.
Tom

 

[buddhist]

Single top reason:
It is in Russians best interests to be the dominant Middle East power. Russia, Iran, and Syria versus USA, KSA and Israel for beginners.
I see a war forming. And that's why Putin wanted a weak president like Trump and did his best to prevent facing a hardened hawk like Godzillary.
Tom

LOL. What I see instead is Israel and the West being belligerent towards Russia. It's better to make friends, mind our own business here on our own continent, and be in peace.

 

[Parchment]

Single top reason:
It is in Russians best interests to be the dominant Middle East power. Russia, Iran, and Syria versus USA, KSA and Israel for beginners.
I see a war forming. And that's why Putin wanted a weak president like Trump and did his best to prevent facing a hardened hawk like Godzillary.
Tom

And this from Hillary right before the election:
Hillary Clinton warns Trump will start a war if elected - Washington Times
PressTV-Trump will start war if elected: Clinton
Blog: Desperate Clinton warns Trump will start a war if he's elected

 

[Revoltingest]

And one that was actively committing cyber espionage on us successfully on a routine basis...

And we weren't?
A friend of mine was once a spy for NSA.
He listened in fluent Russian.
He knew a lot about submarines.
An interesting perspective he had....albeit a guarded one.
(NSA = "Never Say Anything")

We've always needed to protect ourselves against espionage.
We still do.
We always will.
And we play the same game.
It's nothing to get us upset.
But we should take appropriate info security measures.

 

[dust1n]

And we weren't?
A friend of mine was once a spy for NSA.
He listened in fluent Russian.
He knew a lot about submarines.
An interesting perspective he had....albeit a guarded one.
(NSA = "Never Say Anything")

We've always needed to protect ourselves against espionage.
We still do.
We always will.
And we play the same game.
It's nothing to get us upset.
But we should take appropriate info security measures.

Of course we are. Most countries with the capability are doing it to every country they can get away with... using cyber methods to destabilize global adversaries is a relatively new thing though.

That being said, I don't think it's the end of the world or anything...

 

[Revoltingest]

Of course we are. Most countries with the capability are doing it to every country they can get away with... using cyber methods to destabilize global adversaries is a relatively new thing though.

Certainly not as new as our recent election.
And even before Stuxnet.

That being said, I don't think it's the end of the world or anything...

Aye dat.
It's just part of the environment now.

If Putin is correct that the US interfered in their election,
& if Obama is correct that Russia interfered in ours,
then this occurring with plausible deniability would seem
to be the new normal.