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Lose respect

Unveiled Artist

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Can you loose respect for someone without feeling others need to earn your respect?

I've never believed anyone needs to earn my respect. That just makes me selfish. However, I know in some cases it kinda feels like I loose respect even if I don't intend to.

Is there a conflict with those two things?

If you lose respect for, I don't know, John Doe, but don't feel anyone needs to earn it to begin with, is that a contradiction?
 
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Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Can you loose respect for someone without feeling others need to earn your respect?

I've never believed anyone needs to earn my respect. That just makes me selfish. However, I know in some cases it kinda feels like I loose respect even if I don't intend to.

Is there a conflict with those two things?

If you lose respect for, I don't know, John Doe, but don't feel anyone needs to earn it to begin with; is that a contradiction?
That is not an easy question to answer :)
Maybe it depend on the situation that lead up to one loosing respect for someone? honestly not sure about this one
 

Rival

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I try respecting folks right off the bat. They need to give me reasons to lose that.

If you lose respect for, I don't know, John Doe, but don't feel anyone needs to earn it to begin with; is that a contradiction?
Not really. I think this starts from a neutral position and then deteriorates into active lack of respect.
 

ADigitalArtist

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Imo both expecting other people to earn your respect and expecting respect unearned can both be argued to be selfish. I have a basic level of respect for each human that can ebb and flow, somewhat because of their views and mostly because of their behavior. But my respect can't zero out because I have a basic respect afforded to everyone.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Can you loose respect for someone without feeling others need to earn your respect?

I've never believed anyone needs to earn my respect. That just makes me selfish. However, I know in some cases it kinda feels like I loose respect even if I don't intend to.

Is there a conflict with those two things?

If you lose respect for, I don't know, John Doe, but don't feel anyone needs to earn it to begin with, is that a contradiction?
I feel respect is earned, not givin.

Respect is really something quite abstract if you think about it.
 

ADigitalArtist

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I try respecting folks right off the bat. They need to give me reasons to lose that.


Not really. I think this starts from a neutral position and then deteriorates into active lack of respect.
I guess it depends on what respect means to you, as well. The dictionary has both admiration of qualities and due regard for feelings and rights, and I tend to gravitate towards the latter. Things like inalienable rights is a matter of basic respect to me.
 

Unveiled Artist

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I try respecting folks right off the bat. They need to give me reasons to lose that.


Not really. I think this starts from a neutral position and then deteriorates into active lack of respect.

That's what I would think. I don't know if I'd call it losing respect, but the only way I'd intentionally lose respect is if my life were in danger-not in the sense of the person as a human being, though.
 

MatthewA

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Personally try to give my respect off the back.

In the bible it talks about how believers if possible should live in peace, respect of everyone : (Romans 12:18) Living by the spirit (Galatians 5:22-26) ~

What does anyone have to prove to me to earn my respect if as human beings we are both the same?

There are people who have good intentions and people who have bad intentions.

There are people who can be encouraging and uplifting to you, then there can be people who can be discouraging, and downplaying you, as if you are nothing and a nobody.

When it comes to respect try to give it to everyone, and not look down or hate on them or anything, because of the Lord Jesus Christ and what He has done for the entire world - in my belief - though some may disagree.
 

Unveiled Artist

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Imo both expecting other people to earn your respect and expecting respect unearned can both be argued to be selfish. I have a basic level of respect for each human that can ebb and flow, somewhat because of their views and mostly because of their behavior. But my respect can't zero out because I have a basic respect afforded to everyone.

What do you mean by expecting respect unearned?

I can see the ebb and flow. I would assume there would be personal boundaries to where you (a person) doesn't allow another to "steal your sunshine."
 

ADigitalArtist

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What do you mean by expecting respect unearned?

I can see the ebb and flow. I would assume there would be personal boundaries to where you (a person) doesn't allow another to "steal your sunshine."
Think of any reason someone might say 'I demand you respect!' xD Very rarely does that declarative come up in a situation where I think the added respect is earned.
 

osgart

Nothing my eye, Something for sure
It doesn't hurt to be kind and respect the rights of people that you don't yet know. I also respect that there are things that they have no right in doing or saying. I respect their right to say whatever they wish, but it can be at the expense of the freely given respect.

So defining respect as consideration of other people, I give that respect up high, but not if they sink too low.

I by default give everyone neutral objectivity. And kindness goes along with that. If they initiate something foul then I get defenses up.
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
That is not an easy question to answer :)
Maybe it depend on the situation that lead up to one loosing respect for someone? honestly not sure about this one
I like that response, because I'm thinking of two friends. Sometimes friends fall out, over misunderstandings, or other things.
Sometimes it's due one person being upset that the other person did not say things, how they wanted them to say it, or they felt it was a bit harsh.
While the other person has equal reason to believe that one should not expect that everything will be said to one's liking.
The important thing is to consider the intent of the word.

In a world where some people are more sensitive than others, mainly due to what they have been through in life, it is impossible for us to alway hear what we want to hear, or hear things said in a way we prefer them to be said.

Because we are not perfect, we should try to learn to deal with imperfections all around us, realizing that we ourself are imperfect, and what we say may sound right to us, but to the listener, it doesn't.
(Ecclesiastes 7:21, 22) 21 Also, do not take to heart every word that people say; otherwise, you may hear your servant calling down evil on you; 22 for you well know in your heart that many times you yourself have called down evil on others.

Every word is not an intended stab, but if we view them that way, they will be.
Then respect for us becomes something other than... It becomes something based on our perspective of things... which is somewhat clouded.

So you are correct... in one sense.
That being dependant on how you are looking at respect.
Respect has been defined in two ways...
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If the first definition is the focus, then it's not difficult to answer.
One definitely can loose respect for someone without feeling others need to earn their respect.
This is due to the fact that there are certain expectations, one has, base on his standards.

For example, one may admire someone for the way they demonstrate themselves to be - perhaps their qualities; the way they deal with others, etc.
Then the person changes, and becomes a different person.
Based on one's standards, they can lose respect for the person.

However, that would mean, that equally, we realize that we don't have to respect people who have those behaviors that caused us to lose respect for the other person.
Hence, that's where "earn our respect" come in. Those people, whom we don't know, has to earn our respect... that's if we are dealing with the first definition.

On the other hand, the second definition, allows us to respect all persons, regardless of how they behave. So strangers who are behaving in a manner that is against our standards, we still respect them./
Someone we admired disappoints us, we still respect them.
To give an example.
In my ministry, I go to a door. 'Knock Knock'. The door opens. When the person sees me with my book-bag and Bible in hand. They slam the door. BRAM!
I still respect that person, and I will visit them again. What if they curse me? Do I lose respect for them. No. I can't.
That kind of respect is not dependent on how someone treats me. I still respect their feelings, wishes, etc., and deal with them in a respectful way.

That how I understand respect.
At this point, I'll like to say @Unveiled Artist that I am sorry for where my expressions hurt your feelings There were not intended to, but I also hope that Ecclesiastes 7:21, 22 is of some benefit to you.
Going through this life, it's vital we learn to deal with every situation. Imo. :innocent:

:oops: Didn't mean for it to be so long. :(
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
It doesn't hurt to be kind and respect the rights of people that you don't yet know. I also respect that there are things that they have no right in doing or saying. I respect their right to say whatever they wish, but it can be at the expense of the freely given respect.

So defining respect as consideration of other people, I give that respect up high, but not if they sink too low.

I by default give everyone neutral objectivity. And kindness goes along with that. If they initiate something foul then I get defenses up.
I think that's what needed... The right balance.
 

Dan From Smithville

He who controls the spice controls the universe.
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Can you loose respect for someone without feeling others need to earn your respect?

I've never believed anyone needs to earn my respect. That just makes me selfish. However, I know in some cases it kinda feels like I loose respect even if I don't intend to.

Is there a conflict with those two things?

If you lose respect for, I don't know, John Doe, but don't feel anyone needs to earn it to begin with, is that a contradiction?
I tend to meet people with a general aspect of courtesy. While respect is something that develops as you learn about a person. It can be lost while still maintaining general courtesy. Of course, given the situation, courtesy can go too.
 

The Hammer

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Can you loose respect for someone without feeling others need to earn your respect?

I've never believed anyone needs to earn my respect. That just makes me selfish. However, I know in some cases it kinda feels like I loose respect even if I don't intend to.

Is there a conflict with those two things?

If you lose respect for, I don't know, John Doe, but don't feel anyone needs to earn it to begin with, is that a contradiction?


Trust, like emotions, are star shaped. Expanding outward from central point of neutrality, into more extreme positions.

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stvdv

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New Can you loose respect for someone without feeling others need to earn your respect?
I can loose respect for their belittling or disrespectful behavior.

I also know that deep down they want to behave respectful

But due to emotional trauma are unable to do so
 

stvdv

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New Can you loose respect for someone without feeling others need to earn your respect?
So, they don't need to earn my respect. But I do avoid company that behaves badly.

If they are friendly, I am friendly
If they are not friendly, I am no 'friend'
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Can you loose respect for someone without feeling others need to earn your respect?

I've never believed anyone needs to earn my respect. That just makes me selfish. However, I know in some cases it kinda feels like I loose respect even if I don't intend to.

Is there a conflict with those two things?

If you lose respect for, I don't know, John Doe, but don't feel anyone needs to earn it to begin with, is that a contradiction?
Respect is like trust. Sometimes we give out an little amount of each for free but mostly they are earned. And when either is lost, its hard to get it back.
 

Unveiled Artist

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I can loose respect for their belittling or disrespectful behavior.

I also know that deep down they want to behave respectful

But due to emotional trauma are unable to do so

How do you lose respect for a behavior?

I usually hear you can lose respect for a person because of his or her behavior.
 
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