As I understand it, it's all for it.
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Earl? How did your picture end up here? That's my neighbor and his sister.
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"Louisiana GOP Backs Child Marriage Bill: 'A Lot of 16-Year-Olds Are Very Mature' ”
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Earl? How did your picture end up here? That's my neighbor and his sister.
Skwim
Veteran Member
I don't get the correspondence here.If somebody is mature enough to procreate, then he/she is mature enough to legally marry his/her sexual reproduction mate .
On average females are first able to procreate at age 12.5 (USA) Males are first able to procreate at around the same age. So on average just about everyone can procreate when they're around 12-13 years old. This being so, your claim above would mean that just about everyone is mature enough to legally marry at around that age. You really think so?
7th grade class of 12 year-olds. White Lake School
Really??
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Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Its always a tragedy to see a child with child, and they are acting like its a reason to celebrate. Too bad turning them in for child abuse wouldn't get anywhere, because those kids need help, real sex ed and family planning, and counseling to help them through. They don't need encouraged to get a couple of rings. Too bad those dumbos don't have to raise welfare and education budgets accordingly.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
And in addition from that, they are still about a decade from full physical maturation, and that includes the brain. Clearly these republicans do not have the interests of the child in mind. Only their bronze age religious-driven sense of morality.I don't get the correspondence here.
On average females are first able to procreate at age 12.5 (USA) Males are first able to procreate at around the same age. So on average just about everyone can procreate when they're around 12-13 years old. This being so, your claim above would mean that just about everyone is mature enough to legally marry at around that age. You really think so?
7th grade class of 12 year-olds. White Lake School
Really??
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Salvador
RF's Swedenborgian
I don't get the correspondence here.
On average females are first able to procreate at age 12.5 (USA) Males are first able to procreate at around the same age. So on average just about everyone can procreate when they're around 12-13 years old. This being so, your claim above would mean that just about everyone is mature enough to legally marry at around that age. You really think so?
7th grade class of 12 year-olds. White Lake School
Really??
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Imo, in cases where a female minor aged adolescent were to get impregnated by a male teenager, and provided this young adolescent couple's parents would help support the marriage and offspring of this young couple, then such a young adolescent couple should legally be allowed marriage.
With parental consent up to age 18
In scotland though no parental consent is required, hence the roaring trade in weddings at the closest scottish church (or anvil) to england "gretna green"
Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
How many of the people happy to support this, or at least happy to look the other way, absolutely froth with contrived rage at Muhammed for marrying a child?.
"As it stands in Louisiana, there’s no minimum age to get married. That’s why the original version of SB 172, filed by State Sen. Yvonne Colomb, would’ve set the minimum age at 18.
But the GOP-dominated Senate only passed the bill after it had been amended. The revised bill set the minimum age for marriage at 16, with anyone 16 and 17 limited to marrying people no more than four years older than them.
That’s… messed up. The bill passed 22-15.
Then the GOP-dominated House made it even worse.
Their amended version of the bill allows anyone under 18 to get married as long as their parents gave permission. (A judge has to approve it if you’re 15 or younger.) In theory, an 8-year-old
would be allowed to get married in Louisiana under certain conditions. That version of the bill passed 66-28. It’s still going through revisions, though.
The obvious reason you want a minimum age for marriage around 18 is that it prevents an older man from raping a child and getting away with it because the two of them are legally wed.
But the supporters of the bill seem to think marriage is always a benefit, at any age, no matter the circumstances, and their justifications are just completely bonkers.
Louisiana just made it all but impossible for women to get abortions… but these Republicans think a baby with teen parents who are married will be better off than one with teen parents who aren’t… as if there are no other options.“We want children to be born into wedlock if possible,” said Rep. Nancy Landry, R-Lafayette. “We’re discouraging that with this. If they’re both 16 or 15 and having a baby why wouldn’t we want them to get married?”
“A lot of 16-year-olds get pregnant,” added Rep. Valarie Hodges, R-Denham Springs. “Do you feel it’s better for them to not get married at all and for the child to be born illegitimately?”
They can’t drink. They can barely drive. But legal marriage on top of having a child will somehow make things better. Somehow.
And that still wasn’t the dumbest thing Landry said.
Sure… when compared to 8-year-olds. It doesn’t mean 16-year-olds are ready for the lifelong commitment and emotional ups and downs that come with marriage. They’ve barely dated people, much less figured out how to “adult” properly.“It’s really disturbing to me, because a lot of 16-year-olds are very mature,” Landry said.
It’s not like the law says only mature 16-year-olds can get married, either. Landry wants to open that door to everyone while using only the best possible examples in her mind. A more responsible legislator would be thinking about the worst case scenarios.
A different Republican, State Rep. Beryl Amedee, went even further saying that she was ready for marriage at 15, therefore the law should allow for it.
********** Where would the honeymoon have been? At Chuck E. Cheese’s?“I met my husband when I was 14 and he was 15 and if it wasn’t for the belief that we should get a high school diploma before we get married, I would have gotten married at 15,” Amedee said.
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Reminds me of The Killer, rock & roll's first great wild man.
What is 13, about 8th grade?
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Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Anvil?
HonestJoe
Well-Known Member
Why? What practical purpose would the existence of a marriage certificate actually make to the situation for anyone involved. I’d also be concerned about young people feeling obliged or being pushed in to a marriage that isn’t right for them or any children involved so it could end up doing more harm than good in the longer term.
A old country tradition, where no churches are close by being married by a blacksmith over his anvil is legal.
Salvador
RF's Swedenborgian
......Muhammad might have married a prepubescent six-year-old, that'd mean he would have been a pedophile.
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Salvador
RF's Swedenborgian
Whether a young teen age sexually reproductive couple would happily be married or not , should be determined by each of the would-be teenage parents involved together as well as with the wishes of their families.
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HonestJoe
Well-Known Member
I wasn’t asking about who makes the decision, I was asking what practical benefit simply having a marriage certificate would be to the young people involved or the child. I don’t see how it would alter any attitudes, circumstances or practical arrangements and can see how young people could feel obliged or forced in to doing something that isn’t necessarily right for anyone involved.
This was fiction - and the tale borrowed from another, where the female was at least 16 - so perhaps Willie was making a point about the unadvisedness of marrying so young. From documentation at the time (1600 or so), less than 2% of females married before the age of 16.
I don't get the correspondence here.
On average females are first able to procreate at age 12.5 (USA) Males are first able to procreate at around the same age. So on average just about everyone can procreate when they're around 12-13 years old. This being so, your claim above would mean that just about everyone is mature enough to legally marry at around that age. You really think so?
7th grade class of 12 year-olds. White Lake School
Really??
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That must be a really small school. Only 11 students for the entire 7th grade. I guess the rest must have gotten married.
https://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-c...16/09/FT_Marriage_Age_Appendix_2016_09_08.pdf lists marriage age laws and customs by nation. Muslim nations are all over the place for those who want to have a fact-based discussion rather than one throwing out untrue, biased opinions.
Which is actually the case in at least some Muslim-majority countries.
I worked for a primary school where one year 'grade' had only 4 students. It's much better.
Or from Louisiana
No one younger than 18 has any business being married and popping out children, imo. This isn't the 19th century or whatever when the lifespan was so low that it as a necessity to marry as young as you could and have as many kids as possible (to make up for high infant mortality). So the ones promoting child marriage are backwards and usually highly sexist.