Pogo
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Denial is not just a river, but my explanation is that I have gone so far one way that I have found the other side.
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Louisiana moves to add abortion pills to list of controlled dangerous substances
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Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
You will never convince him otherwise. Just trying to save you some time.
Yes, he's been surprisingly rational.
It's because libertarianism is about economic
& social liberty. Socialist regimes have offered
neither.
It's a theoretical concept, ie, anti-authoritarian + anti-capitalism.
But doesn't exist in the real world. Authoritarianism is necessary
to prevent capitalistic behavior. "Libertarian" & "socialism" are
mutually exclusive.
Secret Chief
Veteran Member
Get editing then.
Why?
If people believe they're libertarian socialists,
then it's appropriate that there be a Wikipedia
article about their views. It doesn't mean that
the eponymous system actually exists. This is
just as Wikipedia has an entry for Harry Potter,
another non-existent invention that lives only
in minds.
Secret Chief
Veteran Member
The wiki entry seems not to fit with your sentiment?
See my edited post.
I expanded in anticipation of the above post.
Secret Chief
Veteran Member
Does your libertarianism "exist in the real world"?
Secret Chief
Veteran Member
Backslider.
It does. But only as an influence in a libertarian
direction in a few countries. While no fully
libertarian country exists, this differs from
"libertarian socialism" in that there aren't 2
mutually exclusive goals.
The reason that no "libertarian" country would
exist is simply that we frighten normal folk.
And we look funny....not the good kind of funny.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
There are distinct dangers associated with abortion pills. I can only surmise upgrading the pills to a dangerous medication list may or may not be justified based on incidents that had happened with people who use them.
www.sciencenews.org
www.webmd.com
I'm sure most doctors would know if they feel a risk is too high.
Rare but Fatal Outcome: Four deaths may trace to abortion pill
In the past 5 years, four healthy women taking the abortion pill mifepristone have died of toxic shock syndrome.
www.sciencenews.org
Medical Abortion (Abortion Pill): What to Know
This procedure uses doctor-prescribed drugs to end an early pregnancy.
www.webmd.com
I'm sure most doctors would know if they feel a risk is too high.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Capitalism isn't a universal or necessary result. When you say "prevent capitalist behaviors," this assumes a society that is conducive to thinking that way.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Even Tylenol can cause fatal reactions.There are distinct dangers associated with abortion pills. I can only surmise upgrading the pills to a dangerous medication list may or may not be justified based on incidents that had happened with people who use them.
Rare but Fatal Outcome: Four deaths may trace to abortion pill
In the past 5 years, four healthy women taking the abortion pill mifepristone have died of toxic shock syndrome.
Medical Abortion (Abortion Pill): What to Know
This procedure uses doctor-prescribed drugs to end an early pregnancy.
I'm sure most doctors would know if they feel a risk is too high.
Four over a five year period? That is extremely low, a very safe drug in general.
I disagree that it isn't universal.
It's human nature.
If there were societies where people didn't
want to start businesses, they wouldn't
need to be authoritarian. Yet ever socialist
country has been.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
It can't be human nature if it's only been done for a tiny sliver of human history.
That ignores the fact that capitalism didn't arrive
until humans had tools to employ it, eg, agriculture.
It's simply an extension of the drive to survive.
The was exemplified in the USSR, wherein a
thriving black market emerged to cope with
chronic shortages.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Agriculture was around WAY before businesses and Capitalism.