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Love your parents, says Bible. Why?

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
Indeed, as a general principle, that is good advice. But what if your father and mother are criminals? The general principle must be written. Any exceptions do not need to be written. If it is not written, "Do not murder," there will be a dead planet in just one second. So, it is written. Any exceptions from this commandment do not need to be written. So, to save the space of the Bible, they are not written.
 

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
Indeed, as a general principle, that is good advice. But what if your father and mother are criminals? The general principle must be written. Any exceptions do not need to be written. If it is not written, "Do not murder," there will be a dead planet in just one second. So, it is written. Any exceptions from this commandment do not need to be written. So, to save the space of the Bible, they are not written.
It is "honor," not "love." And, IMO, this directive is in reference to your heredity, your culture, your community, your elders in general more so than just the two who conceived your physical vessel. It is quite common culturally to call people of no direct bloodline, but who are revered, "mother," "uncle," "grandfather," and so on, out of respect. These days it's unusual just to hear "mister," or "miss" to give honor to those who have lived longer.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
Indeed, as a general principle, that is good advice. But what if your father and mother are criminals? The general principle must be written. Any exceptions do not need to be written. If it is not written, "Do not murder," there will be a dead planet in just one second. So, it is written. Any exceptions from this commandment do not need to be written. So, to save the space of the Bible, they are not written.
Jesus actually taught to abandon them. Tough love, probably. Probably another mystery of the faith :)

Matthew 19:29
And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life.

Ciao

- viole
 

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
Staff member
Premium Member
These days it's unusual just to hear "mister," or "miss" to give honor to those who have lived longer.
That's partially my fault. I don't think chronological age is a measure of honor. As I see it, one's actions are deserving of honor, not one's age.
 

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
That's partially my fault. I don't think chronological age is a measure of honor. As I see it, one's actions are deserving of honor, not one's age.
I agree. I don't use it haphazardly. But I do try to for appropriate circumstances. And being of "a certain age," I'm quite happy not being addressed in that manner on all occasions. LOL But I truly, truly feel the recognition when used as, IMO, intended.
 

1213

Well-Known Member
Indeed, as a general principle, that is good advice. But what if your father and mother are criminals?
But I tell you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who mistreat you and persecute you, that you may be children of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the just and the unjust.
Matt. 5:44-45

:)
 

cyw20

New Member
It is "honor," not "love." And, IMO, this directive is in reference to your heredity, your culture, your community, your elders in general more so than just the two who conceived your physical vessel. It is quite common culturally to call people of no direct bloodline, but who are revered, "mother," "uncle," "grandfather," and so on, out of respect. These days it's unusual just to hear "mister," or "miss" to give honor to those who have lived longer.
A a father and mother are very specific.
There are three partners that bring a person into this world, a persons mother, father and God. By honoring a persons mother and father. it will bring him to honoring God
 

Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
Indeed, as a general principle, that is good advice. But what if your father and mother are criminals? The general principle must be written. Any exceptions do not need to be written. If it is not written, "Do not murder," there will be a dead planet in just one second. So, it is written. Any exceptions from this commandment do not need to be written. So, to save the space of the Bible, they are not written.
Deuteronomy 5:16

16 Honour thy father and thy mother, as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee; that thy days may be prolonged, and that it may go well with thee, in the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.


Luke 14:26

26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.



Elohim's/God's Command to Honour your Father and Mother is for Israel Only. Outside of Israel All Fathers and Mothers are Child Abusers and Self Abusers. Yeshua/Jesus Instructed to Hate Child Abusers and Self Abusers.
 

Maninthemiddle

Active Member
If your Parents are Murderers or Criminals Showing love and compassion does not mean condoning or excusing their actions. It means recognizing their humanity and inherent worth as individuals, despite their past actions. It is also important to consider the potential for rehabilitation and redemption, as well as the importance of forgiveness and healing for both the individual and society as a whole.

While holding individuals accountable for their actions is important, it is also important to remember that everyone has the capacity for change and growth. By showing love and compassion to murderers, we can help foster a sense of empathy, understanding, and connection that can ultimately lead to healing and transformation.

Remember we are all capable of Murder under the right circumstances.
 

Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
If your Parents are Murderers or Criminals Showing love and compassion does not mean condoning or excusing their actions. It means recognizing their humanity and inherent worth as individuals, despite their past actions. It is also important to consider the potential for rehabilitation and redemption, as well as the importance of forgiveness and healing for both the individual and society as a whole.

While holding individuals accountable for their actions is important, it is also important to remember that everyone has the capacity for change and growth. By showing love and compassion to murderers, we can help foster a sense of empathy, understanding, and connection that can ultimately lead to healing and transformation.

Remember we are all capable of Murder under the right circumstances.
Deuteronomy 19:21

21 And thine eye shall not pity; but life shall go for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.

Isaiah 13:11

11 And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.



Apart from a Few hundred/thousand Elect, every person on the planet are Criminals having Inherited Adam's Total Rebellion Against Elohim/God. Parents are Criminals that Abuse Themselves, their Children and Others. Some people are more Evil than others. A Serial Killer that Kills for Pleasure is not the same as a person that does a One Off Kill because Circumstances forced them to do so.

A person that Kills another Rightly gets their Just Deserts Punishment of the Death Penalty in some Countries or in the case of the United States in some States. Elohim/God gives to Evildoers their Just Deserts Punishment. As a Buddhist do you believe in Elohim/God?


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YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Adam and Eve (mainly Adam) caused death for their offspring. Yet life is a gift.
 

Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
Adam and Eve (mainly Adam) caused death for their offspring. Yet life is a gift.
Galatians 3:28

28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.



Feminists or Male Chauvinists are Not Christians. The Feminist and Male Chauvinist are the Same and Perish just the Same. When I write Adam's Rebellion it means Man and Woman. In Real Christianity Male and Female is Transcended, something that is Foreign in so-called Christendom.

For those that have seen the movie Closer to God:

I Consider that Ethan Killing also the Two Daughters of the Geneticist and leaving the Geneticist alive to live with the Pain would be Better Proportionate Divine Punishment. Ethan killed the baby that the Geneticist produced. You may have different considerations if you have seen or know about the movie.
 

Maninthemiddle

Active Member
Deuteronomy 19:21

21 And thine eye shall not pity; but life shall go for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.

Isaiah 13:11

11 And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.



Apart from a Few hundred/thousand Elect, every person on the planet are Criminals having Inherited Adam's Total Rebellion Against Elohim/God. Parents are Criminals that Abuse Themselves, their Children and Others. Some people are more Evil than others. A Serial Killer that Kills for Pleasure is not the same as a person that does a One Off Kill because Circumstances forced them to do so.

A person that Kills another Rightly gets their Just Deserts Punishment of the Death Penalty in some Countries or in the case of the United States in some States. Elohim/God gives to Evildoers their Just Deserts Punishment. As a Buddhist do you believe in Elohim/God?


Closer to God Official Trailer 1 (2015) - Horror Thriller HD
I believe in karma, the quotes you listed from the Bible mean little to me.
 

Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
I believe in karma, the quotes you listed from the Bible mean little to me.
Does believing in Karma mean that you believe in Elohim/God? Given that Bible quotes means nothing to you, does that mean you are not able to relate or appreciate Scriptures and Religious Practitioners that is outside of your Religion?

Really the Holy Scriptures/Bible Only has Great Meaning for the Devoted Practitioners of the Religion. To Devoted Practitioners the Holy Scriptures/Bible is Not an Academic book and that means Academics cannot Really understand it.
 
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